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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 28, 2020 20:55:51 GMT -5
when you split that 10 ways, you still ain't gonna break the bank. when you consider the "costs" of playing at the fbs level, $1.7 mil ain't exactly hitting the "lottery". also, the fcs conferences get a small slice of that pie too and they're not even fbs schools... But that's not their only big check. I don't know what the numbers are, but the Sun Belt members also get their March Madness payout and their TV contract payout(s).i wish ya'll would make up your doggone minds! first we're talkin' bout going "fbs", now we're talkin' bout doggone "march madness"! then we're talkin' bout making money playing the likes of app state or odu, now we're talkin' bout playing doggone penn friggin' state! hail, stay on friggin' topic! stop moving the "goal posts"...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 21:27:29 GMT -5
No goal posts were moved. oh, i get it. we've been talking about penn state all along even though "NOBODY" even mentioned penn state but you... I mentioned them AS AN EXAMPLE to drive home the point that App State generates 7-figure game guarantees as a FBS school. No FCS school is getting 7-figure game checks in most instances. We didn’t even get that for the celebration bowl. That’s it. That’s the point. Take it or leave it.
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Post by aggie2039 on Sept 28, 2020 21:33:29 GMT -5
Would we sellout Aggie Stadium playing against App State and UNCC?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 29, 2020 13:08:39 GMT -5
oh, i get it. we've been talking about penn state all along even though "NOBODY" even mentioned penn state but you... I mentioned them AS AN EXAMPLE to drive home the point that App State generates 7-figure game guarantees as a FBS school. No FCS school is getting 7-figure game checks in most instances. We didn’t even get that for the celebration bowl. That’s it. That’s the point. Take it or leave it. we're not app state, plain and simple...
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Post by DOOMS on Sept 29, 2020 14:49:55 GMT -5
I agree.
We're AYANTEE.
I get the feeling that offhand mention of going FBS at that faculty meeting or whatever wasn't just pulled out of thin air. There's probably ongoing studies as to how we'll do it most successfully already underway.
Personally I'm not necessarily for it or against it like the Big South move but like I've typed our administration has proven themselves to me time and time again. They earned our trust to do what's best for the school. I'm more of a pessimist/realist (hence the screen name DOOMS) but I have to admire "when dreamers become achievers." Dr. Martin and company definitely fit that description.
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Post by Maxell on Sept 29, 2020 16:31:14 GMT -5
OSA, I think you are afraid. Afraid of A&T achieving a level of athletic success that we may not be able to imagine now. Afraid of being uncomfortable in order to be comfortable. Afraid to form new relationships. Afraid to have to change the kind of shat you have to talk to a new set of opponents. Afraid to transform into a HBCU flagship university on the field rather than in the heads of alumni as some other schools do.
When the MEAC was formed 50 years ago, the vision was there. Unfortunately, the whole conference is not ready to push sports to the next level. I wish they were. Hell, we're not ready financially but we are ready strategically. That means when the money comes we're ready to move out. Fifty years is a long time to make excuses about anything. It's time the excuses stop.
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Post by Aggie77 on Sept 29, 2020 18:26:05 GMT -5
. . . we're not ready financially but we are ready strategically. That means when the money comes we're ready to move out. Fifty years is a long time to make excuses about anything. It's time the excuses stop. You da man! Ain't nothin' wrong with planning to succeed. Alumni giving exceeded 10% in 2020, the DC Alumni Chapter reported over $500k for its 2019-2020 Annual Giving Campaign, the AAF crossed the $1 million line, with a pandemic going on. These ain't Ivy League numbers, but historic and the March is forward.
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Post by A&T-roy on Sept 29, 2020 19:54:20 GMT -5
Would we sellout Aggie Stadium playing against App State and UNCC? Only if "they" traveled well, but they probably wouldn't. Expect they would have more than elon but not a whole lot more.
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Post by aggierattler on Sept 29, 2020 21:13:29 GMT -5
Would we sellout Aggie Stadium playing against App State and UNCC? Only if "they" traveled well, but they probably wouldn't. Expect they would have more than elon but not a whole lot more. This is not a personal knock at anyone here, but...
...it's up to us to sell out Truist-Aggie Stadium. We've got to get to the point where we can consistently get 17,000-19,000 Guilford County residents to come see the Aggies play on gamedays...not just GHOE.
And if we can get that accomplished, that will be a pretty good step-in-the-right-direction in helping the administration make a decision on any future conference or FBS moves.
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Post by VA's Finest on Sept 29, 2020 21:34:09 GMT -5
Only if "they" traveled well, but they probably wouldn't. Expect they would have more than elon but not a whole lot more. This is not a personal knock at anyone here, but...
...it's up to us to sell out Truist-Aggie Stadium. We've got to get to the point where we can consistently get 17,000-19,000 Guilford County residents to come see the Aggies play on gamedays...not just GHOE.
And if we can get that accomplished, that will be a pretty good step-in-the-right-direction in helping the administration make a decision on any future conference or FBS moves.I've been preaching this for a minute, but there's always folks that only want to play certain schools because they travel well. But then be mad if they make more noise they our fans do.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 30, 2020 12:12:51 GMT -5
OSA, I think you are afraid. Afraid of A&T achieving a level of athletic success that we may not be able to imagine now. Afraid of being uncomfortable in order to be comfortable. Afraid to form new relationships. Afraid to have to change the kind of shat you have to talk to a new set of opponents. Afraid to transform into a HBCU flagship university on the field rather than in the heads of alumni as some other schools do. When the MEAC was formed 50 years ago, the vision was there. Unfortunately, the whole conference is not ready to push sports to the next level. I wish they were. Hell, we're not ready financially but we are ready strategically. That means when the money comes we're ready to move out. Fifty years is a long time to make excuses about anything. It's time the excuses stop. not about being "afraid" and it ain't about "excuses". i already stated that if dr. martin finds a billionaire donor or equivalent, i'd be willing to consider fbs. for me it all comes down to "funding". when somebody can "prove" to me that we have "sustainable" funding that matches or exceeds that of the "average" fbs school (not sun belt school), then i'd be willing to consider fbs. funding is the key at all levels of scholarship college football. we have a fighting chance at the fcs level, not so at the fbs level. see, in the past i've had the personal privilege of "touring" the athletic facilities at several major d1 schools back when my daughter was being recruited to play basketball and i can tell you "first hand" that a&t doesn't come remotely close to matching the facilities that i saw with my very own eyes in person at those major d1 schools like ecu, much less bcs schools. and that's the problem. you're not gonna out recruit fbs schools if you can't at least match the resources of the "average" fbs school, much less bcs schools. if the day ever comes that a&t can match or exceed the resources of the "average" fbs school, then and only then would i be willing to have a conversation about going fbs. but right now, a&t is a long, long, long, long, long, long, long way from doing that. i don't care about "dreams", instead "show me the money". mind you, we can't even keep our grass " green", yet ya'll talkin' bout going fbs? man, this ain't "fantasy football" folks. somebody's gotta pay the friggin' bill...
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 13, 2020 15:00:24 GMT -5
So this quote was from a thread completely unrelated to this topic, but it brings up a good pernt: ... my "personal opinion" is that a lot of aggies "over react" to our wins over those pwc schools (all but 1 had "losing records") solely because they're pwc's. that's why a lot of those very same aggies think we're ready to go to the "fbs level". it is not based on the same merits as an app state or odu who both had very good success in the fcs playoffs before they bolted to the fbs level... Could this be part of the reason we were so against leaving the playoffs? Some very long range plan to support us becoming a viable playoff contender?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Oct 13, 2020 16:25:28 GMT -5
So this quote was from a thread completely unrelated to this topic, but it brings up a good pernt: ... my "personal opinion" is that a lot of aggies "over react" to our wins over those pwc schools (all but 1 had "losing records") solely because they're pwc's. that's why a lot of those very same aggies think we're ready to go to the "fbs level". it is not based on the same merits as an app state or odu who both had very good success in the fcs playoffs before they bolted to the fbs level... Could this be part of the reason we were so against leaving the playoffs? Some very long range plan to support us becoming a viable playoff contender? to be fair, you should do the very same thing every time any other poster goes off topic, including yourself...
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 13, 2020 23:12:56 GMT -5
I’d be doing it constantly, but you’re by far the biggest offender.
That being typed this wasn’t to call you out or punish you, this was to point out you made a very good point. I just wanted to discuss it in the right place and not have the original thread drive all over the place.
What if we can’t bust a grape in the FCS playoffs and as a result any rumored move to FBS is shuttered?
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Oct 14, 2020 7:57:38 GMT -5
I call it forwarding thinking if we can’t be successful at the FCS playoff level then you forget about FBS or delay any plans. However if my goal is FBS Football and I am making initial studies etc the likelihood of achieving near term goals (FCS) just went up. If you are beginning the frame work for FBS that only helps improve the near term objectives.
I work for a car manufacturer and yes we have to sale what we produce today but we also have to have more than just a vision for the future you got be putting design plans together for the future not just contemplating. Those future design plans help with current vehicles because sometimes you come up with new options for the future that you can add to current product in a short period of time
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