oleschoolaggie
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 1, 2022 15:20:11 GMT -5
that's your emotions speaking cuz nothing you stated explains how a&t can raise the kind of funding necessary to keep pace at the fbs level. for crying out loud, we still can't even keep our doggone stadium "grass green"! can't use endowment money on athletics, nil ain't got nothing to do with the university itself, competition and academics has "very little" if not nothing at all to do with competing at the fbs level. those are your "selling points" for a&t competing at the fbs level, none of them are "valid". additionally, it is not true that a&t flies on all long trips and certainly not as frequently as most fbs schools. further, you still have not explained how a&t will keep up with the facilities "arms race" at the fbs level. can't wait to hear your explanation for that!! mind you, the fbs facilities "arms race" is not just a one time thing, instead it runs continuously for an "indefinite" amount of time. how is a&t gonna do that? and you also haven't explained how a&t will level the playing field relative to access to "all" potential recruits, not just "minorities". how is an hbcu gonna recruit at the fbs level if it can't sign "the best" athletes of "ALL" ethnicities? hbcu's can get away with that at the fcs level, but not at the fbs level. and, unless your head was in the sand, surely you know that a&t has already expressed a desire to "reduce travel costs". well, clearly that ain't happening at the fbs level no matter what conference a&t could potentially belong to. if reducing travel costs is a "top priority" for any school, the fbs football is not for those schools. fbs is not a "fantasy league" that's free to all participants. it costs "MONEY", i mean lots of "MONEY" to sustain a competitive program at the fbs level and you have not explained where that "MONEY" is gonna come from. please share with us where that "MONEY" is gonna come from. checkout the fbs budgets of most fbs schools and compare it to ours... I can tell you right now most of this new funding is going to come from Student Athletic Fees and bonds/debt. Did you know about 3/4ths of our ~28,000 applications for Fall 2025 came from out of state? If this OOS enrollment cap goes through, which it most likely will at the next BOG meeting, we'll need to begin thinking about A&T with almost 20,000 students by 2030. Heck, 15,000 won't be out of the question by 2025. We'll have a budget pretty close to if not exceeding $25 million at that point. So I write all of this to say that enrollment will key for Athletics growth. student fees cannot keep pace with the fbs facilities "arms race" and human resources. again, a&t is the largest hbcu in the country. yet, a&t is "crying" about travel costs. why cry about "travel costs" if you've got the largest hbcu enrollment in the country? can't go to the fbs level "crying" about travel costs...
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Post by DOOMS on Mar 1, 2022 16:53:16 GMT -5
I was talkin to a cat at my son's soccer practice a couple weeks ago. He had on a Georgia Southern t-shirt (and mask) so that got my attention. He said "moving to FBS was the best decision the school ever made." He said the whole town of Statesboro has grown as a result of the move, and the school has grown exponentially. If planned right, it's worth it. Hell, we ain't never gonna bust a grape on the FCS level either, might as well move up and go to somebody's bull$h*t bowl provided we plan right. ...And it's gone cost a lot. But if we say we'll never get there, we're right. If we say we can, we're right. Martin and Hilton are more of the "we can" type than the "we can't" type. We're not that far removed from multiple winless years. They've proven they know how to strategically plan to put us in a position to be competitive without stretching us to the limit. I trust them. If we say we can, we're right. Martin and Hilton are more of the "we can" type than the "we can't" type. I posted this a year and a half ago. Since then we've announced a move to the CAA that was supposedly five to six years off at a minimum, we've gotten preliminary approval to count athletes as in-state students for tuition purposes, and we're looking at boosting the amount of out-of-state students we're allowed to enroll. A year and a half. I preface this by stating I'm not exactly for the CAA move and I definitely ain't for FBS because, well, look around lol. But it's becoming more and more apparent that the administration doesn't give two sheeets what I'm for or even what the current conditions are. They are moving at warp speed towards whatever the hell it is they're moving towards. If it's FBS, then they're going to make moves until they get there or die trying no matter how ridiculous we may look in the process. If FBS is actually their goal, what we think no longer matters.If Martin can have leading us to R1 and leading us to the Sun Belt or half-dead a$$ Conference USA (where else we gone go, lol) under his legacy, he's the greatest Chancellor in the history of the UNC system hands down. I'm sure he knows that.
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Post by aggieswag on Mar 1, 2022 20:11:50 GMT -5
Old School I have resolved your posts are to provoke me 😂 .. it works .. listen bro no one is saying this is happening today. The ? Is can we or will we. Yes there are things that need to work on. That’s why there is a strategic plan ..
At 20k kids, R1 university, a healthy endowment .. there is no way we couldn’t move. There are definitely reasons not to but there are more reasons to go for it and we will and we will be successful ..
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Post by aggieblackie2 on Mar 1, 2022 20:47:11 GMT -5
OSA has always and always will put pwi schools on a pedestal and low rate hbcu's. Check his posts out in the past on various subjects concerning pwi's and hbcu's.
He's been led to believe that "we" can't compete on any scenario against "them".
White ain't always right OSA.
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