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Post by DOOMS on Dec 7, 2010 16:12:58 GMT -5
You know the damage one ignorant Negro can do?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 7, 2010 17:06:23 GMT -5
So, I take it from the pages of this thread we don't have any idea what Chancellor Martin's Realistic Expectations and Goals are for Aggies Athletics, specifically football? Why do you think that is? have we ever known what any of our previous chancellors' expectations and goals for aggie athletics were? i could be wrong, but i don't recall any of them expressing so...
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Post by ohsixrain on Dec 7, 2010 18:11:46 GMT -5
I think we all are irritated by the state of athletics...and rightly so. Just maybe the Chancellor feels the same way and he's taking a stab at correcting the situation. You can't blame this man for trying because at the end of the day he's accountable for what happens while under his watch. I don't think anyone else here would operate any differently. No one says a word about Hackley who I know could care less about athletics. No one blames him...if I'm not mistaken he initiated the policy that no students could transfer in with a criminal violation or offense. Why don't you guys start there if you must complain. The policy basically goes against everything I believe our HBCUs should stand and that's giving our folk a chance or even a second chance. But that's my opinion...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Dec 7, 2010 18:18:49 GMT -5
Please don't use "Chancellor Martin" and "accountable" in the same sentence.
There still is not even a single mention of Coach Lee's firing on ncat.edu or ncataggies.com.
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Post by Aggie77 on Dec 7, 2010 18:32:36 GMT -5
So, I take it from the pages of this thread we don't have any idea what Chancellor Martin's Realistic Expectations and Goals are for Aggies Athletics, specifically football? Why do you think that is? have we ever known what any of our previous chancellors' expectations and goals for aggie athletics were? i could be wrong, but i don't recall any of them expressing so... Nope! At least not in writing, that's my point, Chancellor Martin is on the status quo trend line. But many of you expect something different.
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Post by Aggie77 on Dec 7, 2010 19:27:46 GMT -5
I think we all are irritated by the state of athletics...and rightly so. Just maybe the Chancellor feels the same way and he's taking a stab at correcting the situation. You can't blame this man for trying because at the end of the day he's accountable for what happens while under his watch. I don't think anyone else here would operate any differently. No one says a word about Hackley who I know could care less about athletics. No one blames him...if I'm not mistaken he initiated the policy that no students could transfer in with a criminal violation or offense. Why don't you guys start there if you must complain. The policy basically goes against everything I believe our HBCUs should stand and that's giving our folk a chance or even a second chance. But that's my opinion... Nobody is accountable under their watch. What Chancellor has been accountable the last decade and how were they accountable? How will Chancellor Martin be accountable? The coaches seem to be accountable though. Second Chance, here we go with the second chance mission again. When did it become HBCU's mission to be rehab centers and half-way houses for rule violators, law breakers and other assorted criminals? That was never the mission and never should be. I think you are confusing these unappreciative thugs-like knuckleheads with the unprivileged and the disadvantaged. These are the people not given a first chance that the mission is based on. The so-called policy never restricted any individual from applying and getting accepted to A&T to seek an education, only resticted the privilege of participating in collegiate athletics based on a case by case review. What is wrong with these so-called second chance victims proving that they deserve a second chance, even though often it’s their third, fourth or fifth chance. Don’t make my alma mater the dumping ground for athletic snobs that wouldn’t consider A&T the first time around, but when they get in trouble and their big time school kicks them in the butt and shows them the door, then they come a knocking.
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Post by truthseeker on Dec 8, 2010 20:39:43 GMT -5
dooms... you're bringing tears to my eyes... you are on a roll on this thread...!!!!!!!! if martin wanted to copy app st. the first thing he should have looked at was the length of tenure of the head coach.. jerry moore... but if he was to copy a program he should be looking at william & mary... jimmy laycock has been the coach there for over 25yrs... laycock is a very good coach... with the resources w-m puts in fball every 4-5yrs laycock will field strong teams... & administration is happy because they know they don't put in the resources to expect championships every yr. but most important is that jimmy laycock has good teams & 90% of their players graduate... will a&t ever stick with a coach for any length of time... ?... just stick with a coach & be happy...
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Post by DECKS on Dec 8, 2010 23:15:47 GMT -5
We've stuck with Coach Eaves for a long time.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 9, 2010 10:41:40 GMT -5
true dat. bibbs, jones, and shumate too...
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Post by bseballaggie on Dec 9, 2010 11:31:21 GMT -5
true dat. bibbs, jones, and shumate too... These names are associated with the word WINNING!! Has anyone heard anything about any new recruits? National Signing Day is around the corner.
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Post by DOOMS on Dec 15, 2010 8:29:31 GMT -5
There's really not much to hear. We got rid of the head man that's personally been sealing the deal for most every recruit we got over the past two years.
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Post by jaffejoffa on Dec 15, 2010 11:54:33 GMT -5
Would you send your son to a school that has no head coach, no AD and a shaky administration? Exactly. Any kid that has options, is not considering us right now. Sad. When we finally get back into the recruiting game,it'll be way too late.
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Post by ohsixrain on Dec 15, 2010 15:47:13 GMT -5
We thought that when Lee was coming in...do you guys think he's the exception to the rule or can we get a just as good recruiter to come in and do the same thing? Look...I'm going to say this....we have to go down with our ship like it or not. Don't jump ship now and head for highland! The state of athletics has been shaky at BEST the last decade, so now is no different. I think we will be okay...I don't have any information to back that stance up but, I really do. I think the Chancellor has come in and has seen we have a major problem in athletics and he's attempting to correct those woes. Who said it'd be easy? Tough decisions have to be made...I'm sure removing Lee was one of his toughest decisions to date. Lastly, he doesn't strike me as the type that remove a decent coach unless he had a very viable replacement that will take us where we want to be for years to come. That's just me.
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Post by aggie62 on Dec 15, 2010 16:42:11 GMT -5
.......I think the Chancellor has come in and has seen we have a major problem in athletics and he's attempting to correct those woes. Who said it'd be easy? Tough decisions have to be made...I'm sure removing Lee was one of his toughest decisions to date. Lastly, he doesn't strike me as the type that remove a decent coach unless he had a very viable replacement that will take us where we want to be for years to come. That's just me. 06,
I agree with you. Chancellor Martin is relatively new in his position and I've talked with him on several occassions about our overall athletic situation and I believe he sincerely wants to get it right, I think he wants excellent athletics as well as excellent academics to be part of his A&T legacy. I may be wrong but that's my impression so far. And I'm not saying he'll get it right the first time; he may have to fire and hire some more people over the next couple of years to get us on top again.
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Post by truthseeker on Dec 16, 2010 16:19:35 GMT -5
Thrilla, everyone deserves to run things "their" way. I know its hard, but you have to let the man in charge just be the man in charge. If he wants to fire everyone that he passes in the hallway that doesn't speak that's his option. We can only talk sheeet when we are 1-9 again next season. If I were Chancellor or even AD for that matter, my football coach going 1-9 gives me a chance to build my own legacy without worrying about f'ing it up. It cant get no worse. So let the man have his shot. While you say Lee was a decent man(and probably is), I cant believe you are upset about the house clearing of a 1-9 coach. Or even care for that matter. Even people who loved Lee are saying "well he did go 1-9". to run things "their" way they need 2 things going for them...(a) they need resources... & (b) they need to know what they are doing... they have neither... & to make matters worst.. the folks who has martins ear know less about college athletics than he does... the decision makers & the folks they listen to have been doing the same ole b.s. for the last 40yrs & nothing has changed... what makes anyone think they know what they are doing now... ?? NEWS FLASH... THEY DON'T...!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE PEOPLE WHO DO KNOW & WHO REALLY CARE ABOUT A&T GET FIRED...!!!!!!!!!!!!
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