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Post by oldschool on Jun 15, 2015 12:46:11 GMT -5
I agree with you NSS about hosting a game in the FCS playoffs but that's a mute point . And that decision was not up to A&T solely ,we voted against it ,but the majority of the other schools voted for it ,so any talk about hosting a playoff game is just that , talk . I'm also open to playing WSSU but never again at Boman Gray .You will never see Duke playing NCCU at their place ,and you will never see USC playing SCSU in Orangeburg either , nor will you ever see Miami playing FAMU in Tallahassee .The only way we will be in the FCS playoffs is with an at-large bid and quite frankly I have a better chance of winning the power ball lottery than that happening now ,since the conference gave up our AQ , not A&T .
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Post by saabman on Jun 15, 2015 14:28:55 GMT -5
.....that whole "We just can't beat them, lets take our ball & leave" thing kills me.....If your team is real enough they should be able to slap whoever, wherever & whenever they play. Period I agree 100% on the road or not if you are Real you will win.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jun 15, 2015 15:18:06 GMT -5
I don't disagree with what you're saying oldschool. I'm really speaking hypothetically. To me, if you're no longer competing to truly be the best in the FCS, then why front like you're truly an FCS program or FCS conference?? The only reason I didn't care to play Winston was because we were serious about competing in the FCS. Now that this notion has been eliminated by the conference, there's no more need to front like we are FCS serious.
Right now, the MEAC is no longer considered a legitimate FCS conference in my eyes with this move.
SCSU can play Benedict..... Hampton and Norfolk can play VSU and VUU..... Central can play Shaw and Fayetteville State.....
We can get our rivals from the North (Virginia-University of Lynchburg) back on the annual rotation.
I'm serious about this. There's really no more need to schedule Coastal Carolina. There's no need to schedule a UNC or other DI/FCS competition after this year, unless they're giving us a 6-figure check to pimp slap us around.
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Post by aggieblackie on Jun 15, 2015 15:32:41 GMT -5
Hey friscotxag,where have you been the last two years. The Aggies have played SC State in Atlanta for the past two years, not Charlotte.
You are trying to be cute and saying a fan does not know what MEAC stands for.
Get your facts straight before you try to criticize someone. Thank you.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 15, 2015 16:36:44 GMT -5
i'd be willing to bet anybody that at least half the fans who come to aggie stadium can't name more than half the schools in the meac (if that many) and half of our fans actually couldn't tell you what meac stands for. heck, probably half of bdv members couldn't tell you what ciaa stands for without looking it up. hail, even i have to look it up to be absolutely sure.
for some reason folk on bdv think all aggie fans are as knowledgeable of the meac as we bdv members are, but they're not. most bdv members are "diehard" aggie fans and are in virtually daily conversation regarding the meac. but the vast majority of aggie fans aren't "diehard" aggie fans, otherwise we'd have close to about 15k bdv members. the vast majority of aggie fans don't talk meac talk virtually every day like we do.
its kind of funny because i recall some wssu folk over on onnidan thinking because wssu played in the d2 national championship a couple of years ago and they were very popular on onnidan, they (wssu) thought wssu was a "household name" amongst the nation but nothing could've been further from the truth. i think sometimes folk mistake message boards for the nation at large...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 17:53:45 GMT -5
Is Elon's team going be better this season or will the game be a warmup for conference play?
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Post by saabman on Jun 15, 2015 18:57:11 GMT -5
I don't disagree with what you're saying oldschool. I'm really speaking hypothetically. To me, if you're no longer competing to truly be the best in the FCS, then why front like you're truly an FCS program or FCS conference?? The only reason I didn't care to play Winston was because we were serious about competing in the FCS. Now that this notion has been eliminated by the conference, there's no more need to front like we are FCS serious. Right now, the MEAC is no longer considered a legitimate FCS conference in my eyes with this move. SCSU can play Benedict..... Hampton and Norfolk can play VSU and VUU..... Central can play Shaw and Fayetteville State..... We can get our rivals from the North (Virginia-University of Lynchburg) back on the annual rotation. I'm serious about this. There's really no more need to schedule Coastal Carolina. There's no need to schedule a UNC or other DI/FCS competition after this year, unless they're giving us a 6-figure check to pimp slap us around. so harvard and yale are not legitimate FCS program then? they do not participate in the playoffs and they still play D1 / FCS program. try telling that to the young men on A&T's football team and see what reaction you get. we have not lost any credibility as you can see by the recruiting class that we had. and I for one expect the recruiting to get better each year. I only see bigger and better things for A&T in the future. The university is not measured by participating in a playoff game . as long as Broadway is the coach we will continue to play team's like Coastal Carolina along with other FCS/D1 programs that he can schedule I don't see a drop off in the competition outside of conference play or within the MEAC.
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Post by saabman on Jun 15, 2015 19:00:52 GMT -5
Is Elon's team going be better this season or will the game be a warmup for conference play? Elon should be better based on their recruiting class. they recruited more size in speed and they should have a fairly good team this season.
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Post by Maxell on Jun 15, 2015 19:31:26 GMT -5
I'm serious about this. There's really no more need to schedule Coastal Carolina. I disagree. Now is the time even more to schedule other FCS competition. In the current scenario, the best way to prepare for the conference season is to play a few tough games out of conference and WIN them. I looked back at our schedule last year and I am even more convinced of this. The so called rivalry D2 game can be one of the three OOC games but more than one of those games will not prepare you for conference. Beating Coastal, JMU, or Richmond will. We ran through conference opponents last year when you look at the scores. SCSU(QB issue) and Central(the big head) were the only blemishes and we still got a share of the title. In addition the non-conference record is very low on the tie-breaker list for the MEAC championship.
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Post by aggieblackie on Jun 15, 2015 19:50:15 GMT -5
OSA will you please quit trying to philosophy on every topic. 90% of the time you contradict yourself and make yourself look ....
Mind your business. We know you suppose to have went to A&T. Quit trying to be a know it all wannabe.
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Post by saabman on Jun 15, 2015 19:59:20 GMT -5
here we go again and the season hasn't even started lol!
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jun 15, 2015 20:06:05 GMT -5
I don't disagree with what you're saying oldschool. I'm really speaking hypothetically. To me, if you're no longer competing to truly be the best in the FCS, then why front like you're truly an FCS program or FCS conference?? The only reason I didn't care to play Winston was because we were serious about competing in the FCS. Now that this notion has been eliminated by the conference, there's no more need to front like we are FCS serious. Right now, the MEAC is no longer considered a legitimate FCS conference in my eyes with this move. SCSU can play Benedict..... Hampton and Norfolk can play VSU and VUU..... Central can play Shaw and Fayetteville State..... We can get our rivals from the North (Virginia-University of Lynchburg) back on the annual rotation. I'm serious about this. There's really no more need to schedule Coastal Carolina. There's no need to schedule a UNC or other DI/FCS competition after this year, unless they're giving us a 6-figure check to pimp slap us around. so harvard and yale are not legitimate FCS program then? they do not participate in the playoffs and they still play D1 / FCS program. try telling that to the young men on A&T's football team and see what reaction you get. we have not lost any credibility as you can see by the recruiting class that we had. and I for one expect the recruiting to get better each year. I only see bigger and better things for A&T in the future. The university is not measured by participating in a playoff game . as long as Broadway is the coach we will continue to play team's like Coastal Carolina along with other FCS/D1 programs that he can schedule I don't see a drop off in the competition outside of conference play or within the MEAC. Bigger and better things......how so........if we win the MEAC and this Celebration Bowl in the next few years, where can we go after that in the current format? We've boxed ourselves in with respect to how much more we can advance our football program. With respect to us playing quality OOC FCS competition.......We need to flip this around and look at this from a potentially opposite viewpoint......Now that we're no longer in the FCS playoff picture, I have to ask would any OOC FCS program serious about the FCS playoffs (ie, a Coastal Carolina) really want to schedule MEAC programs any further??? If CCU beats A&T or SCSU......does it really make them feel any better about themselves and their playoff aspirations when they beat non-playoff seeking programs??? There are many Southland Conference teams that still schedule the SWAC....primarily because there's no other FCS conference down in that area other than those 2. That's not the case in our neck of the woods. Other FCS conferences could schedule one another and completely leave MEAC teams off their schedules. Now that another spot has opened up in the playoffs, why would OOC FCS programs waste a spot on their schedules playing us when they can play teams from other FCS conferences still interested in the playoffs, which could build their resumes and lead to them getting the playoff spot that we've since abdicated?
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jun 16, 2015 7:58:59 GMT -5
Seems like a lot of people got their PHD in FCS scheduling in the offseason. It's all about money and survival. You have to weigh being competitive with being financially sound when your a HBCU or almost any FCS school. Unless your an AD or Chancellor its all just outsider opinion. I give mine as well, but emotionally I dont care where we end up. I have a preference, but when it comes down to it my butt will still be in the seat if I can make a game. There will be games that I pass on and games that I want to see whether we are in the MEAC, SOCON, Big South, etc. Whether we end with the Celebration bowl or the FCS playoffs.
I just find it hilarious how much drama and discussion this Celebration Bowl has caused, considering if it had been around for the last 10 years we would have NEVER gone to it.
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Post by saabman on Jun 16, 2015 8:09:11 GMT -5
Seems like a lot of people got their PHD in FCS scheduling in the offseason. It's all about money and survival. You have to weigh being competitive with being financially sound when your a HBCU or almost any FCS school. Unless your an AD or Chancellor its all just outsider opinion. I give mine as well, but emotionally I dont care where we end up. I have a preference, but when it comes down to it my butt will still be in the seat if I can make a game. There will be games that I pass on and games that I want to see whether we are in the MEAC, SOCON, Big South, etc. Whether we end with the Celebration bowl or the FCS playoffs. I just find it hilarious how much drama and discussion this Celebration Bowl has caused, considering if it had been around for the last 10 years we would have NEVER gone to it. Great point Monster. Lol
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Post by DECKS on Jun 16, 2015 12:33:45 GMT -5
These are all good discussions and some of the same issues our administrators are debating. Giving up our AQ is a big deal, especially if the Celebration Bowl goes defunct like all other HBCU bowl games after the six year run. Getting that AQ back won't be a slam dunk.
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