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Post by marchingband1969 on Jun 11, 2015 17:01:38 GMT -5
When WSSU had Maynor and Hayes and a high-power teams, they were an interesting team for us to play. Now they are just another DII that wants to be relevant. They missed their shot at fame and fortune. But they do serve as a great example for what happens when you let people with a grudge negotiate for you. Eventually WSSU will show up on our doorstep again and we'll play them at Aggie stadium for about what we will pay Shaw this year.
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Post by aggieblackie on Jun 11, 2015 17:30:05 GMT -5
MB 69 the Rams are still relevant, maybe not as much when Coaches Hayes and Maynor were coaching.
If A&T and WSSU came to their senses and decided to play each other again the stadium would be packed regardless of the site.
Shaw, Smith and Livingstone combined would not generate the money an Aggie - Ram game would generate.
Both schools should quit bickering and make some money. If they decided to play I bet you more than one person would be interested in the AAF meeting.
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Post by aggierattler on Jun 11, 2015 17:34:58 GMT -5
It may be on us to fill our stadium but other than Homecoming, WSSU and Central, our attendance is pretty much the same. When we play Elon on their turf the stadium is filled on both sides. Why is it that those same Elon fans can't travel 15 miles to our stadium when we host the game. I have been attending Aggie football games since the 60's and I have never known us to fill the stadium on a regular basis other than the schools I previously mentioned or Homecoming. Our conference teams are not close in proximity as Elon and that may be the reason they don't attend our games. You can talk about promotions and the lack of this and that and the attendance is still going to average out the same. It is a damn shame that we continuously play Elon who does not have the respect to travel 15 minutes to attend games in our stadium. Too me it does 'matter' that they don't give us respect and attend our games - 15 miles away. Actually they don't respect our university, team or band. The only time they fill their stadium is when they play us. They see dollar signs when play us on their turf. We see air when they come to Aggie Stadium. What fan base does Elon even have??? In fact, what fan base does any Big South Conference school have??? And that's what worries me about all of this talk about us leaving the MEAC to join the Big South. The Southern Conference would be a better option for us...but we will have a drop off in football attendance by going to either conference, IMHO.
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Post by saabman on Jun 11, 2015 18:14:09 GMT -5
It may be on us to fill our stadium but other than Homecoming, WSSU and Central, our attendance is pretty much the same. When we play Elon on their turf the stadium is filled on both sides. Why is it that those same Elon fans can't travel 15 miles to our stadium when we host the game. I have been attending Aggie football games since the 60's and I have never known us to fill the stadium on a regular basis other than the schools I previously mentioned or Homecoming. Our conference teams are not close in proximity as Elon and that may be the reason they don't attend our games. You can talk about promotions and the lack of this and that and the attendance is still going to average out the same. It is a damn shame that we continuously play Elon who does not have the respect to travel 15 minutes to attend games in our stadium. Too me it does 'matter' that they don't give us respect and attend our games - 15 miles away. Actually they don't respect our university, team or band. The only time they fill their stadium is when they play us. They see dollar signs when play us on their turf. We see air when they come to Aggie Stadium. What fan base does Elon even have??? In fact, what fan base does any Big South Conference school have??? And that's what worries me about all of this talk about us leaving the MEAC to join the Big South. The Southern Conference would be a better option for us...but we will have a drop off in football attendance by going to either conference, IMHO. I agree Rattler . I do not think that the grass is greener on the other side. if we leave the MEAC that would be a very boneheaded move. And I don't think that a lot of our fan base will follow.
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Post by numberonebrave on Jun 11, 2015 19:18:01 GMT -5
I am not sure I understand why you do not think our fan base would follow? Don't fans follow their team not who their teams play? And like Tenn State, there could still be 3 HBCU's on the schedule. However, I am not supporting a move, I just wonder why you say that.
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Post by saabman on Jun 11, 2015 23:24:37 GMT -5
I am not sure I understand why you do not think our fan base would follow? Don't fans follow their team not who their teams play? And like Tenn State, there could still be 3 HBCU's on the schedule. However, I am not supporting a move, I just wonder why you say that. True fans do yes. But we have mostly fair weather fans. And personally I think it would be a dumb move to leave the MEAC .
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Post by AggiePride on Jun 12, 2015 8:27:13 GMT -5
I am not sure I understand why you do not think our fan base would follow? Don't fans follow their team not who their teams play? And like Tenn State, there could still be 3 HBCU's on the schedule. However, I am not supporting a move, I just wonder why you say that. My sense is TSU fans enjoy the OVC for basketball but rather play more HBCUs in football with a preference for more home games and less classics, while maintaining access to the playoffs.
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Post by DECKS on Jun 12, 2015 9:10:13 GMT -5
I am not sure I understand why you do not think our fan base would follow? Don't fans follow their team not who their teams play? And like Tenn State, there could still be 3 HBCU's on the schedule. However, I am not supporting a move, I just wonder why you say that. True fans do yes. But we have mostly fair weather fans. And personally I think it would be a dumb move to leave the MEAC . We would be dumb not to look at our options in leaving the MEAC. Consider that you have FAMU, SCSU, NSU & Howard with varying degrees of financial issues, and two of them (SCSU, NSU) on SACs probation. A conference with so much financial issues by member institutions can't be considered as stable. Also FAMU has twice been recommended by consultants to consider a move to the SWAC. If they follow the recommendation you could probably expect BCU to follow them. With no playoff position to battle for why should FAMU and BCU remain in the conference? I'm not criticizing any of these schools because we could just as easily be in the same position but the reality is when schools are under this kind of financial strain they will eventually have to look at making major decisions which could involve leaving the conference (see WSSU). Lastly a move to the Big South would greatly reduce our travel expenditures. Without looking I don't think any school would be more than a 4 hour drive (Charleston) which could mean virtually no overnight accomodations for most of our sports teams and easier travel for our fans. Regional alliances might make more sense for us.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 12, 2015 9:54:00 GMT -5
What fan base does Elon even have??? In fact, what fan base does any Big South Conference school have??? And that's what worries me about all of this talk about us leaving the MEAC to join the Big South. The Southern Conference would be a better option for us...but we will have a drop off in football attendance by going to either conference, IMHO. I agree Rattler . I do not think that the grass is greener on the other side. if we leave the MEAC that would be a very boneheaded move. And I don't think that a lot of our fan base will follow. saabman, history has shown that we draw just as many fans to aggie stadium when we play schools like elon or coastal carolina as we do when we play non-rival hbcu’s like morgan state, dsu, ssu, or even famu or bcu. besides, if we leave for the big south, we still could play our biggest hbcu rivals as ooc games and not even miss a beat. heck, coastal carolina played “3” meac teams last year (a&t, scsu, famu). so there’s no reason that we couldn’t continue to play our biggest hbcu rivals (nccu, scsu, howard)...
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Post by trues on Jun 12, 2015 10:33:07 GMT -5
Thank you all for answering my original question lol. I love my BDF friends for staying on subject lol
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Post by trues on Jun 12, 2015 10:38:12 GMT -5
i like that ideal oldschool. You could also sneak a D2 school in one of those spots for guarantee gate money.
WSSU: You all forget there is a new chancellor at WSSU(Elwood L. Robinson) and a new AD. Things may not be as bad as we say they are now.
I am sure Martin has touch bases with Robinson.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 12, 2015 10:50:13 GMT -5
i like that ideal oldschool. You could also sneak a D2 school in one of those spots for guarantee gate money. WSSU: You all forget there is a new chancellor at WSSU(Elwood L. Robinson) and a new AD. Things may not be as bad as we say they are now. I am sure Martin has touch bases with Robinson. heck, we could have the best of both worlds. the big south only has 6 football playing members, so that’s only “6” conference games that we’d need to play. that leaves 5 or 6 ooc games we could schedule every year. so we could continue to play nccu, scsu, and howard every year which are our biggest meac rivals, but replace the rest of the meac with big south conference games and still have 2 ooc games to plug in a d2 team (wssu) or other fcs hbcu’s. and it shouldn’t really impact our overall attendance figures because we don’t draw that well in aggie stadium when we play our non-rival meac schools unless it is homecoming. matter of fact, a big south conference schedule would give us better scheduling flexibility because we'd only have 6 conference games instead of "8" conference games in the meac. we could "possibly" have both nccu and wssu on our schedule in the same year...
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Post by trues on Jun 12, 2015 12:35:15 GMT -5
I think we would be a better team whenever you have costal carolina in the conf someone we have not beaten that motivate me. I wish we had them back on the schedule. I am glad we are playing a D2 school before we play UNC. We need a warn team. I never forget NCCU played a warm team before the aggie/eagle classic they beat us too.
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Post by numberonebrave on Jun 12, 2015 17:37:42 GMT -5
Wssu played Va Union before they beat A&T as well
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Post by noexcuses on Jun 12, 2015 17:51:43 GMT -5
Wssu played Va Union before they beat A&T as well Nice Historical Information Number1Brave
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