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Post by aggierattler on Jun 11, 2015 10:41:13 GMT -5
If we can't fill our side of Aggie Stadium it's tough to complain about the visitor's side. The way we've played the past two years we should fill our stadium. I blame our under funded and under staffed athletic marketing department for our low attendance. All HBCU'S believe that "If you play it, they will come. " If we want to increase ticket revenue we have got to run game promotions. Die hard Aggies and HBCU football fans will show up no matter what but to fill our stadium for non-Homecoming games we've got to get the local casual fan to buy a ticket. E-X-A-C-T-L-Y!!!!!!!
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Post by DECKS on Jun 11, 2015 10:42:51 GMT -5
We complain about low attendance and yet we lead the MEAC in attendance lol Exactly! In fact only Southern finished ahead of us for hbcu's. #12 nationwide amongst all fcs schools. Why are we complaining? Sent from my SM-N910P using proboards
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jun 11, 2015 11:34:04 GMT -5
We complain about low attendance and yet we lead the MEAC in attendance lol Exactly! In fact only Southern finished ahead of us for hbcu's. #12 nationwide amongst all fcs schools. Why are we complaining? Sent from my SM-N910P using proboards I'm not complaining, but I think we can always squeeze more attendance out of each game with great promotions and good scheduling. As long as the team keeps a winning record. As far as Elon goes, i say this every time this comes up. "Worry about yourself!". Lets fill up our own stadium with our own promotions. Elon is not responsible for that, just like no other non-conference team is. Only non-conference team that can do that is WSSU. Elon WAS a good game to schedule because it's low cost in travel, its another FCS school, and we were equal in terms of talent. Now, with the Celebration Bowl, we should NOT play them. There is no benefit to playing them at all. Lets play another CIAA team(preferably WSSU) or play another FBS payout game. Its good business and good for the fan base.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 11, 2015 11:46:18 GMT -5
3 years ago, i would’ve agreed that its a good idea to play 2 ciaa teams because we were still rebuilding our program and we needed a couple of easy wins (hence, vul and wvsu). but now that our rebuilding process is over, i’d rather not play 2 ciaa teams. 3 years ago we needed those d2 games so that our “young” backups could get some “extended minutes” in order to gain some real game experience. but now, we no longer largely depend on true freshmen like we did 3 years ago. most of our current backups have at least 1 year of experience, so now i don’t feel we need two d2 games. one d2 game will now suffice along with a “winnable” fcs game like elon because i think elon prepares us better for meac competition than ciaa teams do...
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Post by aggieblackie on Jun 11, 2015 12:00:52 GMT -5
It may be on us to fill our stadium but other than Homecoming, WSSU and Central, our attendance is pretty much the same.
When we play Elon on their turf the stadium is filled on both sides. Why is it that those same Elon fans can't travel 15 miles to our stadium when we host the game.
I have been attending Aggie football games since the 60's and I have never known us to fill the stadium on a regular basis other than the schools I previously mentioned or Homecoming.
Our conference teams are not close in proximity as Elon and that may be the reason they don't attend our games.
You can talk about promotions and the lack of this and that and the attendance is still going to average out the same.
It is a damn shame that we continuously play Elon who does not have the respect to travel 15 minutes to attend games in our stadium.
Too me it does 'matter' that they don't give us respect and attend our games - 15 miles away.
Actually they don't respect our university, team or band. The only time they fill their stadium is when they play us. They see dollar signs when play us on their turf.
We see air when they come to Aggie Stadium.
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Post by DECKS on Jun 11, 2015 12:05:38 GMT -5
Elon is a small school with a small fan base. They don't travel in large numbers anywhere.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 11, 2015 12:08:54 GMT -5
so blackie, your thing is an "emotional thing", whether it serves the best interest of our football program or not. your hangup is with elon's fans, which is understandable. but we shouldn't determine who we play just because we don't like their fans. we should never depend on some other school's fans for anything.
we aggies travel to elon and pack their stadium because we luv our team. not because we expect some kind of financial "payback" from their fans. our support for our football team should be "unconditional", not dependent on our opponent's fans. i'm sure if this game wasn't beneficial to our program, coach broadway and ad hilton wouldn't agree to schedule it. i don't think they scheduled this game based on how many elon fans will come to aggie stadium...
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jun 11, 2015 12:24:42 GMT -5
Elon doesn't really travel ANYWHERE. Nobody aside from the NCCU and WSSU will fill up our stadium for us. There is no "magic opponent" to fill up those last 2-3 home games to capacity. We have to come up with something as far as promotions on our own. Don't bash Elon for not being as passionate or supportive of their team as we are because you think they owe us something. They really dont. If they did, then so does EVERY damn team in the MEAC, because we have the biggest traveling fan base for non-rival, non-classic games than anyone on average.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jun 11, 2015 12:29:39 GMT -5
3 years ago, i would’ve agreed that its a good idea to play 2 ciaa teams because we were still rebuilding our program and we needed a couple of easy wins (hence, vul and wvsu). but now that our rebuilding process is over, i’d rather not play 2 ciaa teams. 3 years ago we needed those d2 games so that our “young” backups could get some “extended minutes” in order to gain some real game experience. but now, we no longer largely depend on true freshmen like we did 3 years ago. most of our current backups have at least 1 year of experience, so now i don’t feel we need two d2 games. one d2 game will now suffice along with a “winnable” fcs game like elon because i think elon prepares us better for meac competition than ciaa teams do... I dont know about you, but I would much rather see that schedule say: Shaw UNC WSSU instead of: Shaw UNC Elon Just saying.....
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 11, 2015 12:56:21 GMT -5
3 years ago, i would’ve agreed that its a good idea to play 2 ciaa teams because we were still rebuilding our program and we needed a couple of easy wins (hence, vul and wvsu). but now that our rebuilding process is over, i’d rather not play 2 ciaa teams. 3 years ago we needed those d2 games so that our “young” backups could get some “extended minutes” in order to gain some real game experience. but now, we no longer largely depend on true freshmen like we did 3 years ago. most of our current backups have at least 1 year of experience, so now i don’t feel we need two d2 games. one d2 game will now suffice along with a “winnable” fcs game like elon because i think elon prepares us better for meac competition than ciaa teams do... I dont know about you, but I would much rather see that schedule say: Shaw UNC WSSU instead of: Shaw UNC Elon Just saying..... from a fan's perspective, i would agree with you. i'd rather see wssu than elon, no question about it. but from a program development point of view, i'll take shaw and elon. i mean, there's no need to even think about wssu unless they agree to come to aggie stadium like any other d2 team. but they turned us down, so i'd put them in the rearview mirror until they come to their senses...
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Post by AggieGroove on Jun 11, 2015 13:12:16 GMT -5
I dont know about you, but I would much rather see that schedule say: Shaw UNC WSSU instead of: Shaw UNC Elon Just saying..... from a fan's perspective, i would agree with you. i'd rather see wssu than elon, no question about it. but from a program development point of view, i'll take shaw and elon. i mean, there's no need to even think about wssu unless they agree to come to aggie stadium like any other d2 team. but they turned us down, so i'd put them in the rearview mirror until they come to their senses... Didn't we wssu something like $60k and they refused?
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Post by The Professor on Jun 11, 2015 13:24:42 GMT -5
Why does this WSSU conversation keep going? We offered them and they said no. They want us to come fill there stadium too.
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Post by aggieblackie on Jun 11, 2015 14:05:38 GMT -5
Professor, that is what I have been trying to get over to the same 4 or 5 guys who always respond and know every thang. Winston Salem sees dollar signs and that is why they want us to fill their stadium up which we will do and then pay them.
Elon may be small but they can bring more than 50 fans to our stadium.
We are always talking about our program needs money. Well schedule someone who is 28 miles away and make some damn money. Elon ain't gone generate nothing for us.
Also, I am not the only one who feels this way. They may not express it on this site but they do. I have personally heard Aggie fans say they are not going to Elon for the very reasons I have stated.
My last statement on this!
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Post by DECKS on Jun 11, 2015 14:16:37 GMT -5
Professor, that is what I have been trying to get over to the same 4 or 5 guys who always respond and know every thang. Winston Salem sees dollar signs and that is why they want us to fill their stadium up which we will do and then pay them. Elon may be small but they can bring more than 50 fans to our stadium. We are always talking about our program needs money. Well schedule someone who is 28 miles away and make some damn money. Elon ain't gone generate nothing for us. Also, I am not the only one who feels this way. They may not express it on this site but they do. I have personally heard Aggie fans say they are not going to Elon for the very reasons I have stated. My last statement on this! At the AAF Annual meeting in April only one person in the entire room expressed an interest in putting WSSU back on the schedule......and he admitted to also being an employee there. No one else took his side, so if the folks who are donating money aren't raising objections then I don't expect to see this game anytime soon.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 11, 2015 14:36:50 GMT -5
from a fan's perspective, i would agree with you. i'd rather see wssu than elon, no question about it. but from a program development point of view, i'll take shaw and elon. i mean, there's no need to even think about wssu unless they agree to come to aggie stadium like any other d2 team. but they turned us down, so i'd put them in the rearview mirror until they come to their senses... Didn't we wssu something like $60k and they refused? i don't remember the exact amount, but yes we did offer them a payout and i think it was in the $60k range...
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