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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 14, 2012 15:32:47 GMT -5
Being a die hard Aggie means more than a blind support a losing team. I think alot of folks think that as long as we are showing up things will work themselves out. Well Im sorry nut we dont live in a world of self-accountability. We as alumni are the most vital part of the check and balance system at A&T. Complacency is what keeps budgets high and expectations low. Negating to voice your opinion or concern is the same group think that holds millions of our people back. That's whats really up!!!!!! There will always be a few who influence the outcome for many!!!! |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 14, 2012 15:45:36 GMT -5
Numbers don't lie! SSU -----46 rebs A&T------27 rebs Hill--------1 assist Underwood-1 assist So we got a total of two (2) assists from our floor generals! I have said before that we do not have point guards.... we have shooting guards in point guard bodies. Hill is generously listed at 5'8". Underwood is generously listed at 6'0''. Eaves had not recruited a true "pass" first-- playmaking, floor general, point guard since he been running the show (9yrs). Hear some people tell it we might as well annoint Eaves as the greatest .500 (or less) coach in history! Sad!!!! The two floor generals probably only had one assist because the people they pass it to aren't finishing, not because they aren't passing. Just my observation. that's very possible. but when you consider that both marc hill and jeremy underwood took as many shots as anybody else on the team (except witter), that tells me that we've got "shoot first" point guards instead of "pass first" point guards. but i'm okay with both of their performances last night because given their size, they both shot a respectable percentage from the floor. point guard play was not the reason we loss last night. instead, we loss because we didn't keep ssu off of the boards. ssu had too many offensive rebounds (16), and we didn't have enough of them (8). our defense wasn't bad last night. actually, it was pretty decent. but it doesn't matter if ya don't get the rebound after making a stop. we definitely win that game last night if we'd kept ssu off of the offensive boards, no doubt in my mind. the thing about coaching defense is that you must place a very heavy emphasis on rebounding, else all of that hard work to stop somebody goes for naught. nothing worse than playing tough hard nose defense, exerting all of that energy to stay in front of somebody, only to let the opponent off the hook with an easy put back. its very frustrating. eaves probably blew a gasket on the sidelines! if it wasn't for ssu's put backs, we would have held them to "less than 40% shooting" from the floor last night which is great defense, that's what you want. but you've got to finish the deal by rebounding... |
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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 14, 2012 15:47:38 GMT -5
I agree that everyone has the right to voice their opinion and they should if they don't agree with the situation. However, this has gotten ridiculous. The same people have been crowing for 2 years about who they know, who they talk to, how things are going to change, blah, blah, blah... There's an Entire Forum called The Firing Squad. Go over there and vent. It's not right that a 30 point win gets two pages of back handed compliments and faint praise and a close loss gets 6 pages of Fire the Coach, I told y'all he can't coach. I said it last year and I'll say it again this year. Unless the bottom falls out, which it hasn't, he aint getting fired until his contract runs out. Stop ruining the gameday threads thinking that you are T. Boone Pickens and have all this clout with the administration. You don't. After we beat Central on Saturday, it will be because their shooter isn't playing. If we lose, it's because Eaves is a bum. Everyone has dug in with their position, so start your petitions in the Firing Squad and let us who want the team to win this year actually talk about the games... I can only speak for myself and nobody else. I don't have any perceived "clout" and never said I did. I know some people and I'm not afraid to speak up when needed. Some people have the quality to voice their concerns to those that can make decisions. Some choose not to or simply can't for whatever reason. They taught me at "T" how to think not what to think Lastly, you are not the only one who wants the team to win. I think everyone on here does (except getuprams). |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 14, 2012 16:03:38 GMT -5
Official attendance at last night's game: 1288 man, i don't know about anybody else, but that hurts. i hate to keep talking about how it use to be, but we were the envy of the meac as far as attendance goes. even as late as the mid 90's. i've always taken "pride" in how our fans would out shine everybody else in attendance. even during our dry spells, we continued to be amongst the top in meac attendance. but sadly, now we're putting up dsu and csu numbers. truly a sad day...  |
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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 14, 2012 16:15:29 GMT -5
Official attendance at last night's game: 1288 man, i don't know about anybody else, but that hurts. i hate to keep talking about how it use to be, but we were the envy of the meac as far as attendance goes. even as late as the mid 90's. i've always taken "pride" in how our fans would out shine everybody else in attendance. even during our dry spells, we continued to be amongst the top in meac attendance. but sadly, now we're putting up dsu and csu numbers. truly a sad day... Does not look optimistic...people are tired! |
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Post by The Professor on Feb 14, 2012 16:24:49 GMT -5
man, i don't know about anybody else, but that hurts. i hate to keep talking about how it use to be, but we were the envy of the meac as far as attendance goes. even as late as the mid 90's. i've always taken "pride" in how our fans would out shine everybody else in attendance. even during our dry spells, we continued to be amongst the top in meac attendance. but sadly, now we're putting up dsu and csu numbers. truly a sad day... Does not look optimistic...people are tired! Has nothing to do with the fans. No one knows we have games... Students don't even know |
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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 14, 2012 16:36:48 GMT -5
Does not look optimistic...people are tired! Has nothing to do with the fans. No one knows we have games... Students don't even know Like going to McDonald's and asking for a combo....mediocre team, no prmotions/advertising, and people are tired. |
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Post by jwill on Feb 14, 2012 16:39:08 GMT -5
When I purchased my ticket monday at 5:30 the lower reserve seating visitors side had only 4 seats left, someone but tickets or season books. How can the students not know when there is a home game, there are schedules everywhere . The website gives all that info. The students seem to know everything else , there is no reason not to be informed about game dates and times well in advance. My oldhead friends seem to be in Corbett always .
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Post by marchingband1969 on Feb 14, 2012 16:56:06 GMT -5
The students know there's a game at Corbett, they just don't care. Why would they? A&T is not winning and in most games, we aren't even competitive. Here's the message A&T has given to everyone (students, fans and alumni) by keeping Eaves on for 9 years...In basketball, we don't care about having a winning program!
When I was on campus, we had a tennis team. In the 4 1/2 years I was on campus, I never attended a tennis match. Despite the fact that I had two close friends on the A&T tennis team, we sucked. The players knew it, the administration knew it and so did the students.
So don't blame the students for not showing up to watch a sub-par A&T basketball team lose again. Give them a reason to show up. Until we improve the basketball product don't expect to see more than the usual "die-hard" Aggies at the games.
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Post by Aggie9195 on Feb 14, 2012 17:06:52 GMT -5
Norfolk state is at the top of the MEAC and their fans support isnt that great. I attend many games and on any given night the old heads out number the students 5 to 1. Students have too many other interest and choose not to come to a game on Monday night or Saturday night. Unless Norfolk is playing Hampton the students aren't coming. This is not just an Ayantee thing.
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Post by Bigboy on Feb 14, 2012 17:08:18 GMT -5
I don't know where that 1,288 number came from but there were a lot more people than that at the game. The majority of the people there were students.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Feb 14, 2012 17:09:39 GMT -5
Does not look optimistic...people are tired! Has nothing to do with the fans. No one knows we have games... Students don't even know Folks ain't coming to games because we're losing. Mondays and Saturdays. 6-8 PM games on Monday. 2-4 PM games on Saturday. This has been going on for YEARS. Folks know when the games are - THEY DON'T COME OUT ANYMORE BECAUSE WE DON'T PUT A GOOD PRODUCT ON THE FLOOR. You don't win -people won't follow you. You cannot expect students, alumni, and local community to flock to your games when you put a subpar product on the floor......the records don't lie: 2011-12: 11-16 (6-6)
2010-11: 15-17 (9-7)
2009-10: 11-22 (6-10)
2008-09: 16-16 (9-7)
2007-08: 15-16 (9-7)
2006-07: 15-17 (10-8)Look at those numbers for a second. Even with the best marketing/advertising campaign possible, do we really believe Corbett would be 75-80% full with numbers like that? |
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Post by Bigboy on Feb 14, 2012 17:10:38 GMT -5
Hampton has never had a lot of fans coming to their games and they have always had winning programs, and that includes football and basketball.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 14, 2012 17:28:59 GMT -5
Hampton has never had a lot of fans coming to their games and they have always had winning programs, and that includes football and basketball. hampton led the meac in basketball attendance for the last 2 years. in part because they play their saturday games during evening hours. at this point, i don't even know if late games on saturday will help our attendance. norfolk just had 6,100 fans at echols for their game against hampton the other night. but that's a rivalry game. it'll be interesting to see how many we have for central this coming weekend. i hope we sellout, but i'm not sure that we will. it should be a "no brainer", but let's wait and see. i know some other meac schools have not had noteworthy crowds at their games. but they don't have the same tradition we had. our attendance has taken a "nose dive". and its several reasons for that, but the main reason is because we're not winning enuf ball games, imho... |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 14, 2012 17:30:58 GMT -5
the reason 1200 folks is sad to me is because you always want to leave behind for those to follow, a better a&t than you had. kinda like how your parents want a better life for their kids than they had.
in many ways, today's a&t students do have a lot of things better than we had back in my day. new classroom buildings, new dorms, a brand new fitness center, etc.
but we're also suppose to leave "positive" traditions behind as a part of a&t's legacy. its just sad to me that today's aggie students really have no concept of what basketball games in corbett use to be like. 1200 people at a basketball game was "unheard of" back in the day. basketball games use to be an "event" at corbett. i guess there's more distractions nowadays with the internet and iphones and stuff like that.
but 1288 people? i don't care who we played when i was a student, we "never" had as few as 1200 folk at the game. ever notice how we haven't had a home game on espnu in a couple of years? ever wonder why not? corbett use to be one of espn's favorite meac arenas. not anymore. now its coppin state. i guess because of their new arena. corbett use to be their favorite, not because of our arena, but because of our crowds.
i'm not pointing the finger at any one person for this. collectively, as an institution, we've allowed this to happen and its a dayum shame. it probably means more to me than most others because sports is a dominate part of my life. probably don't mean much to other folk. but to me, its sad that we've allowed what was an a&t "strength" to become an a&t "weakness". it didn't have to be this way...
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