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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 13, 2012 22:52:48 GMT -5
diva......Eaves pulled Siverand right after he converted. Pulled Underwood also under the same circumstances.
Eaves and Witter went at it when he was pulled. I suspect Witter and Eaves are not on the same page because it has happened before between them.
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Post by texasdiva on Feb 13, 2012 23:04:28 GMT -5
However, whose the coach..... I guess they are not on the same page. But Witter does not get pulled out like the others.... Whose the coach and whose running the team? He sits when he doesn't start or stand for his teammates when they come out like they do for him
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Post by texasdiva on Feb 13, 2012 23:05:31 GMT -5
I call a spade a spade and a duck a duck..... I only comment on what I see. I am objective in this matter and not subjective
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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 13, 2012 23:20:18 GMT -5
I feel u!!!!!
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Feb 13, 2012 23:33:39 GMT -5
This game is a microcosm of the Eaves basketball era ----- NOT GOOD ENOUGH. There was nothing truly wrong with the coaching. There was nothing truly wrong with the players. They played hard. But truth be told, I never felt we were going to win this game. I can see why many people pull for Jerry Eaves - he tries hard. The team tries hard. .....we just don't win when there's the chance to win. He's been doing this for 8+ years. He's like the Chicago Cubs of basketball. Folks see them playing hard and pull for them, even though they never win when it really counts. The question Aggie Nation needs to answer is whether this is good enough. I'm convinced we won't win a regular season or postseason title with Eaves. There's absolutely nothing he's done that convinces me he will break his self-created mold. Do folks want Aggie Basketball to be respectable or do you want them to win?  |
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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 14, 2012 0:05:23 GMT -5
This should be "big boy" stuff.
All coaches are judged on winning and losing. If a coach cannot get over .500 in the conference, there are NO moral victories or excuses.
REAL world stuff!!! Big Boy stuff!!!
Oh well, 6-7 mo months before AGGIE FOOTBALL!!!!
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Post by jwill on Feb 14, 2012 0:25:58 GMT -5
A tough loss , I thought coaching staff had the kids in the right positions we just could not make the big plays to win in the end. I know all the kids played hard but I sometimes just don't understand why will stick with some guys who seem always not to make the correct and timely plays. If your hand is that badly hurt then maybe you should sit and let someone anyone to put us over the top instead of being just short. We are every bit the team that ssu is, they were just more aggressive and made plays and got the calls in a very close game. I know the coach is responsible for the program but I don't place this loss entirely on Eaves.
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Post by texasdiva on Feb 14, 2012 0:50:00 GMT -5
Jwill you hit the nail on the head.... I am in agreement with you. They fought hard..... Again, great job Aggies!!!
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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 14, 2012 7:52:36 GMT -5
A tough loss , I thought coaching staff had the kids in the right positions we just could not make the big plays to win in the end. I know all the kids played hard but I sometimes just don't understand why will stick with some guys who seem always not to make the correct and timely plays. If your hand is that badly hurt then maybe you should sit and let someone anyone to put us over the top instead of being just short. We are every bit the team that ssu is, they were just more aggressive and made plays and got the calls in a very close game. I know the coach is responsible for the program but I don't place this loss entirely on Eaves. Coaches are expected to win. It is a cold hard world. This is real life there are no moral victories. Did our guys play hard? Yes! SSU is gitting it done. We (Eaves) is not...that is the difference. There are three kinds of coaches: 1.) coaches that win 2,) coaches that lose 3.) coaches that stay at .500 in their conference their whole coaching careers Seems like we hit the jack pot with a .500 in MEAC coach (at least he's consistent) and you do know what you gonna get with Eaves......Mediocrity!!!!! |
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Feb 14, 2012 9:05:07 GMT -5
A tough loss , I thought coaching staff had the kids in the right positions we just could not make the big plays to win in the end. I know all the kids played hard but I sometimes just don't understand why will stick with some guys who seem always not to make the correct and timely plays. If your hand is that badly hurt then maybe you should sit and let someone anyone to put us over the top instead of being just short. We are every bit the team that ssu is, they were just more aggressive and made plays and got the calls in a very close game. I know the coach is responsible for the program but I don't place this loss entirely on Eaves. Listen JWILL, The post you made could have been said 5 years ago......4 years ago.......3 years ago.......2 years ago.........last year.......... What you see out on the floor is Jerry Eaves basketball program. He recruited the players. He calls the sets, both offensively and defensively. Everything that goes on with Aggie basketball is spearheaded by Jerry Eaves. As I've state earlier - HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. I promise you - if Eaves is somehow allowed to remain our coach for the next 4-5 years, you will be posting the same isht in 2016 and 2017. People have to understand that this is the best Eaves can do. Frankly, I think many Aggies are content with the status quo. I really believe there are a lot of Eaves supporters out there. My question to them is why are they supportive of him??? 1) He graduates his players (He's not the only coach in America that does this)2) He brings in money with guarantee games (Browse the team schedules from conferences like the MEAC and see what you find)3) Our kids don't get in trouble (A&T's players ain't the only school who stays out of the police log in the newspaper)I saw Hilton and Martin at the game last night - they're at every game. Surely they see that this man (WHO I KNOW IS WORKING HARD AT HIS JOB) just doesn't have it. If this guy's contract gets renewed and if he is even allowed to stay on as coach next year, then I have serious reservations as to what Hilton's and Martin's goals are for Aggie basketball - one of the goals definitely wouldn't be winning conference championships. That's what BOTH have told me their expectations are - MEAC CHAMPIONSHIPS...... YEAR NINE.......how many conference championships (regular or postseason) do we have under Eaves collectively........ crickets |
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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 14, 2012 9:28:01 GMT -5
Numbers don't lie!
SSU -----46 rebs
A&T------27 rebs
Hill--------1 assist
Underwood-1 assist
So we got a total of two (2) assists from our floor generals!
I have said before that we do not have point guards.... we have shooting guards in point guard bodies. Hill is generously listed at 5'8". Underwood is generously listed at 6'0''. Eaves had not recruited a true "pass" first-- playmaking, floor general, point guard since he been running the show (9yrs).
Hear some people tell it we might as well annoint Eaves as the greatest .500 (or less) coach in history!
Sad!!!!
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Post by DECKS on Feb 14, 2012 9:46:05 GMT -5
I think the sad reality is that Eaves isn't going anywhere unless he decides to do so on his own. Most Aggies have become apathetic about mens basketball which is why attendance continues to spiral downward. In other words a majority of our fans and supporters just don't care one way or the other; a state of mind I wish I could get to. Sadly, I think our administrators and BOT have come to the conclusion that we can't do better which is why we won't.
Lastly, there is no need to make improvements to CSC because pretty soon you won't even be able to get 500 fans to a game.
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Post by ohsixrain on Feb 14, 2012 9:55:36 GMT -5
Okay...Aggie2ru & Naborhood...I get you guys loud and clear. I'll speak for myself on this one...I just don't want our basketball program to get set back another 7-10 years because of a bad choice in yet another coach. You saw what happened to football when Hayes was let go...that literally set football back 10 years...beside '03, this season is the first season we have a legitimate shot at a conference title. That's 10 long, long years. I've said all along there are plenty of coaches that can outcoach Eaves....but that's assuming you get the right candidate. We have a program that can find a good candidate and based on the circumstances can make him bad. Eaves is no coach "K" by any stretch...but, when you talk about a new coach, its like walking a very slippery slope...so I tend to be a little apprehensive. But, at the same time I never want to be caught or stuck in a pool of complacency. We obviously need a coach...but we cannot miss when we get that coach!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2012 9:56:52 GMT -5
I think the sad reality is that Eaves isn't going anywhere unless he decides to do so on his own. Most Aggies have become apathetic about mens basketball which is why attendance continues to spiral downward. In other words a majority of our fans and supporters just don't care one way or the other; a state of mind I wish I could get to. Sadly, I think our administrators and BOT have come to the conclusion that we can't do better which is why we won't. Lastly, there is no need to make improvements to CSC because pretty soon you won't even be able to get 500 fans to a game. Well wait a sec. If no one is paying for tickets, isn't that raising a huge red flag? |
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Post by texasdiva on Feb 14, 2012 10:00:27 GMT -5
I looked up the stats also after watching players standing flat, not boxing out, or rebounding and was appalled at the rebounding situation.
Smith 13 min=5 rebounds
Louisme 16 min=4 rebounds
Upchurch 14 min=3 rebounds
Siverand 8 min=3 rebounds
Witter 33 min=2 rebounds
Hill 28 min=2 rebounds
Powell 24 min=2 rebounds
Buck 23 min=2 rebounds
Simpson 21 min=1 rebounds
Underwood 20=1 rebounds
Witter 33 minutes=
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