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Post by DECKS on Feb 14, 2012 10:10:38 GMT -5
I think the sad reality is that Eaves isn't going anywhere unless he decides to do so on his own. Most Aggies have become apathetic about mens basketball which is why attendance continues to spiral downward. In other words a majority of our fans and supporters just don't care one way or the other; a state of mind I wish I could get to. Sadly, I think our administrators and BOT have come to the conclusion that we can't do better which is why we won't. Lastly, there is no need to make improvements to CSC because pretty soon you won't even be able to get 500 fans to a game. Well wait a sec. If no one is paying for tickets, isn't that raising a huge red flag? It should, but they'll just look to remedy the situation by adding on more guarantee games. |
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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 14, 2012 10:11:52 GMT -5
Okay...Aggie2ru & Naborhood...I get you guys loud and clear. I'll speak for myself on this one...I just don't want our basketball program to get set back another 7-10 years because of a bad choice in yet another coach. You saw what happened to football when Hayes was let go...that literally set football back 10 years...beside '03, this season is the first season we have a legitimate shot at a conference title. That's 10 long, long years. I've said all along there are plenty of coaches that can outcoach Eaves....but that's assuming you get the right candidate. We have a program that can find a good candidate and based on the circumstances can make him bad. Eaves is no coach "K" by any stretch...but, when you talk about a new coach, its like walking a very slippery slope...so I tend to be a little apprehensive. But, at the same time I never want to be caught or stuck in a pool of complacency. We obviously need a coach...but we cannot miss when we get that coach! No doubt...... but it's time to move on from what we now have! We cannot be afraid of change....especially since Hilton MAY actually be a better administrator than what we have had in recent years. I admit that our most recent chancellors and sports administrators did not do good jobs in hiring decent, quality coaches but we must move on and clean up of what trash is still arouind. I am confident that Hilton will find someone better than my main man and favorite cousin, Jerry Eaves! |
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Feb 14, 2012 10:11:58 GMT -5
texasdiva,
You cannot single one player out. Eaves did not recruit a big man to replace Coleman. Austin Witter has been a wing player since he first came to A&T. Just because he's the tallest player on the team doesn't mean much. He is not a center or power forward - never has been. WE HAVE NO TRUE POST PLAYER. Our team is a bunch of shooting guards and wing players. We don't have a solid 1, 4, or 5 on the team. Eaves didn't recruit correctly.
You all remember that article talking about "Interchangable Parts." He was right - we have a bunch of the same players on the floor. No center, no power forward, no point guard. He didn't recruit correctly.
I STATE THIS AGAIN - THIS IS THE BEST EAVES CAN DO - IT ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH......
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Post by Aggie Monster on Feb 14, 2012 10:12:39 GMT -5
"Stay out of it AM, you said you would stay out of bball business. Take deep breaths, take deep breaths and just think about August"  |
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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 14, 2012 10:16:13 GMT -5
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 14, 2012 10:16:40 GMT -5
we got "murdered" on the offensive boards last night. it does no good to play good defense if you don't also "rebound" the basketball. defense and rebounding go hand and hand. does no good to do one without the other.
i mean, what good does it do to make a guy miss his shot if you let his teammate get the rebound and put it back up for an easy 2 points? good defense is a "wasted effort" if you don't rebound the basketball and that's what we saw last night.
can't do one without the other...
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Feb 14, 2012 10:32:44 GMT -5
we got "murdered" on the offensive boards last night. it does no good to play good defense if you don't also "rebound" the basketball. defense and rebounding go hand and hand. does no good to do one without the other. i mean, what good does it do to make a guy miss his shot if you let his teammate get the rebound and put it back up for an easy 2 points? good defense is a "wasted effort" if you don't rebound the basketball and that's what we saw last night. can't do one without the other... OSA, We don't have a power forward or a center. SSU had power forwards and centers. You cannot make giraffes out of zebras or vice versa. None of the players we have on this team are post players. We did play good defense last night.....but guess what, when you are playing a bigger team, they have the height and weight to dominate in the paint. EAVES RECRUITED NO BIG MAN TO REPLACE COLEMAN......This isn't rocket science. We're asking wingmen to be power forwards and centers. That doesn't even work in recreational basketball..... |
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Post by krazykev on Feb 14, 2012 10:41:51 GMT -5
He did recruit a Big men but, if the kids decide to go somewhere else you cannot blame everything on the Coach. Savannah State tallest player was 6'8 and he body width was not that big.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Feb 14, 2012 10:58:59 GMT -5
He did recruit a Big men but, if the kids decide to go somewhere else you cannot blame everything on the Coach. Savannah State tallest player was 6'8 and he body width was not that big. How many big men did he recruit? Give me names of the player(s) that spurned us to go elsewhere...... We must have been watching a different game. SSU was clearly a bigger and more physical team. You can look at the heights and weights of a roster, but anyone who went to the game last night will say there was one team who played BIG and one team who played SMALL. Eaves apologists - continue with your blind support for him. He gives us no chance of future prosperity...... 1995 - the last year A&T won an MEAC title. That's 17 years folks. YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN UP ON THE HOPE WE'LL EVER WIN ONE AGAIN....... Let me ask folks this - if A&T closed its doors today, does anyone believe Eaves could get a HEAD COACHING JOB anywhere else on the DI landscape? NOPE. If we have a coach that no one else would even consider to run their program, then why in the hell do we have him?  I don't dislike Eaves - he just doesn't win enough. |
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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 14, 2012 10:59:13 GMT -5
He did recruit a Big men but, if the kids decide to go somewhere else you cannot blame everything on the Coach. Savannah State tallest player was 6'8 and he body width was not that big. Point well taken.....everybody (coaches) "recruit" certain types of playas... guards, forwards and centers. However, the good or great ones are successful in getting playas that fit their needs. The poor or below average ones (Eaves) are not successful in getting playas that fit their needs. Big difference!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by krazykev on Feb 14, 2012 11:06:12 GMT -5
You guys are hilarious but, I know a little more than you think. I will name Chris Britt-Black 6'9 269 and another one that I know that could not get accepted into A&T but, is at another MEAC School. This is a couple and I have nothing to prove to you two about what I know. You guys have no idea what goes on behind the scenes.
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Post by Bigboy on Feb 14, 2012 11:15:22 GMT -5
From what I understand, correct me if I am wrong, but did Eaves not recruite a big 6'10" kid from overseas that is sitting out this year, and he has another big 6'10" kid that came in 2 years ago that broke team rules and had to sit out and is slated to play next season? According to SSU's roster they had no kids over 6'8" tall.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Feb 14, 2012 11:21:39 GMT -5
we got "murdered" on the offensive boards last night. it does no good to play good defense if you don't also "rebound" the basketball. defense and rebounding go hand and hand. does no good to do one without the other. i mean, what good does it do to make a guy miss his shot if you let his teammate get the rebound and put it back up for an easy 2 points? good defense is a "wasted effort" if you don't rebound the basketball and that's what we saw last night. can't do one without the other... OSA, We don't have a power forward or a center. SSU had power forwards and centers. You cannot make giraffes out of zebras or vice versa. None of the players we have on this team are post players. We did play good defense last night.....but guess what, when you are playing a bigger team, they have the height and weight to dominate in the paint. EAVES RECRUITED NO BIG MAN TO REPLACE COLEMAN......This isn't rocket science. We're asking wingmen to be power forwards and centers. That doesn't even work in recreational basketball..... your point is well taken, we definitely don't have a center on our team. however, i would argue that upchurch is a legit power forward, but that's about it as far as post players go. smith is a very "undersized" power forward. rj buck isn't a post player, but he does a lot of the dirty work inside for us. overall, we just don't have the muscle inside to bang with teams who have strong inside play. when we play norfolk, o'quinn is gonna give us fits! surprisingly, we did quite well against morgan's towering front line. but something just ain't right with morgan this year, everybody is beating them this year even though they have the tallest front line in the meac. "legit" post players are the hardest players to recruit because they're in such high demand and there's so few of them. its much easier to recruit guards and small forwards because they're plentiful. i guess eaves was relying on kam shepard to help us out in the post this season, but he's now mia... |
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Post by krazykev on Feb 14, 2012 11:21:49 GMT -5
From what I understand, correct me if I am wrong, but did Eaves not recruite a big 6'10" kid from overseas that is sitting out this year, and he has another big 6'10" kid that came in 2 years ago that broke team rules and had to sit out and is slated to play next season? According to SSU's roster they had no kids over 6'8" tall. Correct, the big man freshman from SC 6'9 220 that is red-shirting and another from France that is having NCAA Compliance issues. That is also correct Christian Henry 6'8 210 is sitting out and in school at this current time and will be ready next season |
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Post by aggie2ru on Feb 14, 2012 11:30:04 GMT -5
When I played ball all that mattered is what the scoreboard said.
My coach taught there were no excuses.
Bottom line is what counts....we can continue to blame it on Eaves' restrictions and anything else we can think of. A&T ain't an Ivy league school you don't have to be a rocket scientist to be admitted.
At the end of the day he is a .500 (or less) coach in the MEAC on a consistent basis that is what is shameful and somewhat hilarious. It's Eaves not us!! Wake Up!
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I don't dislike Eaves - he just doesn't win enough. 