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Post by AggiePride on Feb 25, 2007 14:54:03 GMT -5
Hayes was probably the best football coach we had. He worked with straw and made a competitve program. What harm is it to name the field after him. Wasn't he like 5 games away from his 200th victory before he was fired?
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Post by Gator on Feb 25, 2007 18:51:38 GMT -5
Do the math folks, compare Hayes and Joe Taylor. It's about consistency. Hayes just wasn't consistent when he had the talent. After 99, A&T should have won atleast 2 or 3 championships. I think that's why people don't by into Hayes.
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Post by DOOMS on Feb 25, 2007 19:34:37 GMT -5
Taylor has at least triple Hayes' budget yet Hayes was kicking his @ss consistently.
If we want to talk should've A&T should've been in the bottom four teams in the meac every year since that's where our budget was. Let's not even talk about what our budget would've been if Hayes wasn't out there begging for money for the program.
That's just a poor argument.
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Post by DIEHARDAGGIE on Feb 25, 2007 21:16:14 GMT -5
who said people hated Hayes. When i talked with Hayes at the pigskin banquet, he said he had a lot of freinds at A & T. I've always had a good relationship with Hayes. I want him in the Hall of Fame. I don't want the field named after him.
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Post by Gator on Feb 25, 2007 21:26:58 GMT -5
I disagree with U, of course. I'm sure others do to. Maurice Hicks doesn't have a MEAC Championship ring. You go figure dude...
Losing to bottom level teams in the conference.
I think he definitely belongs in A&T hall of fame, but naming something after him, I don't think so.
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Post by DECKS on Feb 25, 2007 21:53:08 GMT -5
The field should definitely be named after Hayes.
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Post by dj98 on Feb 25, 2007 22:01:44 GMT -5
(Maurice Hicks doesn't have a MEAC Championship ring.)
Hicks missed it by one year....we had a chance to win the MEAC in 1998 but the WR dropped the ball in the corner of the end zone in OT....... I think we where playing BCC... Hayes won three MEAC championships in the span of one decade... No one has talked about that!!!! He should have won four but Hayes can make his WR catch the ball. That was not his fault. We win that game the MEAC is ours in 1998!!!!
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Post by lilboy on Feb 25, 2007 22:39:03 GMT -5
I remember that game that WR was Marcus Ragsdale coach Ragsdales son. We still had our chances after that drop but yea he should have caught it, it fell right off his fingers everyone in the section we were sitting in hearts dropped right along with that pass. And the only reason Hicks doesnt have a ring is because he hurt his knee and because Hampton had Zureal Smith.
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Post by dj98 on Feb 25, 2007 22:57:36 GMT -5
(I remember that game that WR was Marcus Ragsdale coach Ragsdales son. We still had our chances after that drop but yea he should have caught it, it fell right off his fingers everyone in the section we were sitting in hearts dropped right along with that pass. And the only reason Hicks doesnt have a ring is because he hurt his knee and because Hampton had Zureal Smith.)
Thank you, thank you, and thank you bad luck cause us not to have more rings...... 99 was the year Hicks hurt his knee. We would have won five MEAC's if bad luck would not have hit us.... People need to give Hayes his props and name that field after him and a sponser........
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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 26, 2007 11:56:35 GMT -5
99 was the year Mo Smith had a deep thigh bruise against Youngstown State. 2001 was when Hicks tore his ACL.
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Post by Aggie One on Feb 26, 2007 20:54:27 GMT -5
Transition years are always difficult for any team but with very rare exceptions. The conventional choice is always go with the guy who has a year under his belt in an early season matchup.
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Post by 90saggie on Feb 27, 2007 18:00:01 GMT -5
I think we should have HOF Day all together for the NCCU game and Hayes along with others can be inducted into the 2007 class. Give the devil his due and lay whippin that will never be forgotten on the dirty birds.
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Post by Gator on Feb 28, 2007 7:37:33 GMT -5
I think that those of you suggesting A&T have the field named after Hayes is in a very small minority. I could see A&T doing those things if Hayes accomplishments matched Eddie Robinson. Or, had championships behind his name like Jake Gaithers. To suggest naming a field after Hayes for all he's done while at A&T just lowers our standards. Damn, he doesn't even measure up to Don Corbet. Give us a break!
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Post by Bigboy on Feb 28, 2007 8:52:58 GMT -5
What standards are you talking about? And these standards were lowered from what to what?
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Post by DOOMS on Feb 28, 2007 8:54:29 GMT -5
I stopped reading right there. Just kidding. Seriously though, that's an argument with a semblance of logic behind it. I don't really see it as lowering our standards. I would say the people we've hired since and the people we chose to hire before we finally gave up and hired him in the first place was lowering our standards. You forget, he does have championships behind his name. Two double-digit win seasons when we'd never had that many before. Winningest coach in school history. Three conference championships. One mythical hbcu championship. Raised more money for his program than any single entity in school history. Hayes' accomplishments don't match Eddie Robinson's. Tell me, whose do? If he'd coached another 15 years they very well could have. That's probably more our fault that his. Not to mention, how many times did Hayes lose to Eddie Robinson during his coaching tenure at A&T? Thanks. Anyway I agree that those of us who feel that the field should be named after Hayes are in the minority. But that's more because most of us are mean-spirited and wish nothing but the worst on him. It doesn't have much of anything to do with the fact he's actually done enough to deserve it. Instead many of us would like to forget everything he did for A&T (which is far more than anybody reading this will ever do for A&T) and continue to wonder why we have all this bad karma. It's sad, really...
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