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Post by DOOMS on Oct 30, 2006 8:03:07 GMT -5
Once and for all you ignorant coons need to quit blaming Small for every damn thing that's happened to this program. This simply is not his fault. The reason we will stay mired in crap is because we continue to point fingers at people that can't do anything about the current situation. Point a got damn finger at the people whose job it is NOW. Why didn't the best qb on the roster come back for his senior season? Money. Why didn't them kids have year round weights? Money. Why did half of Small's recruits happen to be his relatives? Money. thrilla, you can't on the one hand call Small out for not taking a knee against Morgan and on the other hand have been posting on the Onnidan board as "In Small We Trust" at the same time. You said it yourself: "most of these things CAME TO A HEAD under Small's tenure." The problems were there already. Truth is, 95% of us have no idea what Small had to work with. I know, and I'll remind you I was the first one to point out, the man had serious coaching deficiencies. But his coaching deficiencies aren't the cause of Fobbs' coaching deficiencies. I really don't see the need to blame everything on Small. If Fobbs' had been hired instead of Small WE'D BE EVEN WORSE OFF! The bottom line is that our hiring curve is going straight downhill and we're not spending a damn thing to correct it. Five years from now are y'all gonna blame Fobbs or keep blaming Small? It's idiocy to continue to start threads blaming Small. If I hired one of you clowns to be my partner in a law firm and you lost every case should my clients be blaming you for losing the cases or me for hiring you in the first place? I say me, because I knew I had no business hiring you. How about we just do something that is the complete opposite of what has been taking place. Let's hire people with experience in what we're trying to achieve and experience in doing it on a shoestring budget. No more hiring "big time big name" big failures. Just hire competent people regardless of their race. You don't have to have heard of someone before to determine if they're competent and they don't have to be black to interact with or be successful dealing with black people.
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Post by captaggie on Oct 30, 2006 9:26:12 GMT -5
Bad decisions have hurt us more than limited funds.
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Post by DECKS on Oct 30, 2006 9:39:11 GMT -5
Bad decisions have hurt us more than limited funds. I agree. Even though Small is partly responsible for what's going on he didn't leave the program in such a state that we should be losing by 30-60 points to MEAC schools. If I'm not mistaken Coach Fobbs said he felt this team could be competitive right after he took over. Of course he lost a lot of players and a S&C coach since that time but I still say the team shouldn't be this bad. Money is a big issue with Aggie athletics but it's not a total excuse for what we've seen the last two and a half seasons.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 30, 2006 9:49:04 GMT -5
Dooms before your got on your little tirade and started calling everyone coons, you should have went back and re-read the original post on this thread. . The thread -maker simply said he wondered if Small was somewhere smilng after watching the school that fired him lose 8 straight games and I posted that Small should feel embarrassed after the dismal state in which he left the program in.
No one said that he was solely responsible for everything that is happening to us right now, but in my opinion he does deserve a great deal of the blame. Like I said before, we lost five games in a row before Fobbs even stepped foot on campus.
It's not like the players forgot how to tackle as soon as they learned Fobbs was coming here. It's not like the offensive line suddenly forgot how to block.
Before we were embarrassed by BCC last Thursday on the road, BCC drug Small's teams 54-17 and 45-17 in two consecutive HOME games - one that was also a Thursday night ESPNU telecast.
Let's not have revisionist history here. The seeds of that 70-7 dissaster and our 0-8 record were sown long before Fobbs got hired.
BTW: The reason Small was recruiting his cousins was probably due to the fact all the tapes of local kids that alumni were sending him and Houser were left in a box in his office, un-opened. Small was too lazy to go out of his comfort zone and find talent that someone didn't giftwrap and drop in his lap.
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 30, 2006 9:53:27 GMT -5
There's not enough money in the world that would make me feel good about destroying my own alma mater. Warning: Coon talk above. The seeds of those losses you refered to were sown when Fobbs was hired. Or were the locals you talked to in the Houston area just making stuff up? What good is typing hateful bullshi+ about him doing us? Instead of making sure we didn't hire somebody unprepared again we immediately allowed it to happen again and went so far as to applaud it. As cap stated, bad decisions have hurt us more than limited funds. Where are the threads about the stupidity going on at A&T now as opposed to the past? Oh, I forgot. I write them and y'all call me a pessimist until a year later when you see what the hell I was talking about. Hiring Small was a bad decision, but to sit there and dare type that he's somehow proud of himself or laughing at our continued failures or even worse somehow "destroyed his own alma mater" makes you, well... a coon. Go rummage in some trash somewhere.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 30, 2006 10:00:02 GMT -5
The best QB on the roster IN YOUR OPINION. Dude played four games for A&T before getting hurt and only performed well in one and a half of them. Also, why did that senior quarterback wait until the second session of summer school to get eligible? And who was the coach who promised him that he would have the money to finish up summer school and then at the last minute told him that he wasn't going to give him any money.
Ask yourself those questions.
Hint: It's the same coach who knowingly let one of him assistants refuse to give cleats OR EVEN A PLAYBOOK to Chaz Truesdale when he was just trying to be on the scout team- just because that assistant coach wanted to be vindictive. The same coach who then strutted Truesdale out at this weekly press conference after Chaz had won MEAC rookie of the week honors later in the season when the other backs were injured.
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Post by DECKS on Oct 30, 2006 10:03:04 GMT -5
I disagree with the premise of the title. I doubt if Small is taking any pleasure in what's going on here. That kind of stuff doen't seem to fit his personality.
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 30, 2006 10:04:53 GMT -5
At the risk of repeatingly repeating myself, I know Small wasn't a good coach. My point is he didn't "destroy" this program and even if he did he damn sure didn't do it without a whole lot of help. Quit starting threads blaming him because somebody thought it was a good idea to hire a dude and make him o.c. and head coach when he'd never done either one on the college level. Quit blaming him for taking a job we hired him to do. Don't act like none of y'all never got fired from nowhere. Does that business that fired your a$$ a) sit around and blame you for all their troubles or b) did they immediately correct the problems and learn from the mistakes? If they're still in business they took choice b. Choice a, which is the one y'all are taking, is the coon's choice.
You're not going to find anything useful in that trash can. Leave it alone already.
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 30, 2006 10:08:36 GMT -5
My thought process is this:
It pains me that people we hire in the athletics department almost always do well everywhere except 1601 E. Market. Does anybody else notice that? It's time to quit blaming 300 coaches and calling them all sorry and it's time to start asking 1: why is that the case and 2: how the hell can we ensure it doesn't happen anymore.
It's time to change the culture around A&T back to the way Coach Hayes had it. A winning culture. A team that didn't get pounded multiple years in a row by a church school.
By rights, BCC should've been beating our a$$ worse when Hayes was coach than they are now. They had better athletes and more money then. Hayes beat them. We not only let him go, we forcibly showed him the door. We let a dude from Central State that butted his nose into the athletic department entirely too much and a clown from Wake Forest get rid of him and we applauded it and made excuses for it.
I'm as guilty of that as anyone. And I've realized the mistake and I'm gonna do what I can to correct it. Are y'all or are y'all gonna just keep blaming Small?
It's time to stop letting schitt like this happen.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 30, 2006 10:21:07 GMT -5
Dooms, do you even know what the true culture around the A&T football program was during Hayes' last few years here? Do you know the real reason why he was fired? Hint: I seriously doubt it was because he posted a 4-8 record in 2002.
Do you remember reading all those players quoted in the papers when Small got hired that they were finally glad they were getting some discpline now and a sense of family. Those were shots taken at Hayes and his staff.
I think it's time to change the culture around A&T ... to a way it has never been before. I don't want to hit a glass ceiling after eight wins and nut up against every PWC we face in the first round of the playoffs. Instead of going back to the Hayes era, we need to rise to a new, unprecedented height.
Fobbs may or may not be the guy to take us to those heights, but even after 8 lopsided defeats, I'm smart enough to know that its still too early to know for sure.
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 30, 2006 10:27:30 GMT -5
They said the same thing about Small. They'll say the same thing about Fobbs... It's unfortunate how many times one must be hit over the head with the same club before one states "ouch."
My how your tune has changed. Ain't you the same dude that taught us to question pretty much every quote that comes out of the paper you're now stating is gospel?
When you come up for air from sniffing Fobbs' a$$, just make sure the first thing out of your mouth isn't "it stinks in here because of Small."
I'm done with this topic. I just hope the rest of you (specifically the author and his supporters) are too.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 30, 2006 10:35:44 GMT -5
I figured you would soon be done with this topic because, minus all the name calling and personal attacks, its obvious that you ran out of facts to support your case long time ago.
FYI: Don't get all touchy-feely when someone crticizes Small and then decide to just take your ball and go home.
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 30, 2006 10:37:57 GMT -5
At the risk of repeatingly repeating myself, I know Small wasn't a good coach. My point is he didn't "destroy" this program and even if he did he damn sure didn't do it without a whole lot of help. Quit starting threads blaming him because somebody thought it was a good idea to hire a dude and make him o.c. and head coach when he'd never done either one on the college level. Quit blaming him for taking a job we hired him to do. Don't act like none of y'all never got fired from nowhere. Does that business that fired your a$$ a) sit around and blame you for all their troubles or b) did they immediately correct the problems and learn from the mistakes? If they're still in business they took choice b. Choice a, which is the one y'all are taking, is the coon's choice. You're not going to find anything useful in that trash can. Leave it alone already.
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 30, 2006 10:38:32 GMT -5
Sometimes you gotta post it four times because people can't or don't read.
What exactly is "my case that I don't have facts to support?"
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 30, 2006 10:56:14 GMT -5
Well?
I posted this in the private forum (minus the creative editing) when y'all were on another one of your "it's Small's fault my car didn't start this morning" tirades. Since you didn't read it then you might as well look at it now...
No my nocturnal mammalian friends, "Smalls" (sic) ain't somewhere laughing right now. But the rest of the world is.
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