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Post by jslee850 on Sept 1, 2009 18:16:13 GMT -5
That's the great thing about fan sites: opinions often vary. I just don't know if they will be good enough to beat a WSSU team on the road that returns basically their entire defense from last year (BTW: this is a WSSU team that none of us has seen play this season). quote] well guess what how many are we returning on offense and defense? Its equal i have no clue how you dont know what to expect your gonna see the same guys but much improved from last year on the field, its not like they havent been hit b4. Most playin has college game experience theres just a select few, what you put in is what you get out, who cares about how many games they won in the past, wow are those guys still here, are them coaches still here? The reason university's get new ad's and head coaches is to get a new start, and for fans to have a new hope, not say i dont know the last 3 years.. the last 3 years they were running a different offense and a diffrent defense. If you wanna dwell on something dwell how they had 60+ guys doing work all summer, if you wanna dwell on something dwell on the big play ability the offense has, if you wanna dwell on something dwell on the fact a worse a&t team last year beat wssu, and put up a fight with other meac teams b4 going down. This is the 1st game not mid-season stride the same wssu that beat nsu and hampton isnt the same wssu that we're gonna see on the field! We have an unproven head coach well they have an unproven offense coordinator in his first season with them, so add that an dwell! Its a complete toss up! |
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Post by aggie62 on Sept 1, 2009 19:26:08 GMT -5
Gang,
I repeat, if we can't beat WSSU; we best prepare ourselves for a 0-11 or, at best, 1-10 season. For all of you who don't think we can beat WSSU, you should check yourselves to ensure you are not still living in the Fobbs era. Remember, even though Fobbs had one of the worst offenses in the nation and they still scored 14 points in the 2 of the 3 games he played them. This doesn't say a lot for WSSU defense, does it?
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Post by basefoot00 on Sept 1, 2009 21:20:26 GMT -5
A&T 24
WSSU 14
FEARS 175 yds.
Come on Thrilla change is about to come!
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Post by DECKS on Sept 1, 2009 22:11:08 GMT -5
This will be a defensive battle and will be decided by turnovers and special teams.
Aggies 10
Rams 7
Fears 78 yds passing.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 2, 2009 8:30:09 GMT -5
How do you know that? Neither you or I or anyone here has seen one second of WSSU's practices this fall. Do you know what they have coming back on defense ... on offense ... on special teams?
They could be one of the top teams in the conference for all we know.
I hope we are able to dominate them Saturday night, but there is not much evidence to support that right now. All we have is a few reports for one team's fall camp and some inspiring talk from that team's players and coaches.
However if this was WSSUfans.com, I am sure I could compile just as many positive sound bites and video reports about WSSU's team.
My point is that, until we see this team on the field competing against another squad, we really don't know what we have in place this season.
My concern is that anytime you are counting on this many unproven players and trying to install a new system on both offense and defense, you might want to brace yourself for some inevitable growing pains.
We'll find out in a couple of days ...
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Post by aggiejazz on Sept 2, 2009 8:43:43 GMT -5
Looking at the picks it is clear that most of us see WSSU as our little sister school and most pickers have little respect for Rams’ head coach, Blount. WSSU has long been A&T’s little sister school but currently WSSU has a higher graduating rate and better retention rate. Plus WSSU has a 2-1 edge since the rivalry restarted 3 years ago. A&T beat WSSU in a close game last year but A&T had the advantage of playing a week before WSSU opener against the Aggies. When the Rams had the same advantage 3 years ago they blew the Aggies out in Aggie Stadium.
WSSU finished stronger than A&T even though the Aggies had an energetic interim headcoach, Ragsdale, at the helm and Fobbs was a disgraced memory. WSSU defense also allowed fewer points against the conference power teams than did the Aggies last year. Don’t look for a lot of offensive fire power from either team. WSSU’s QB, Jarrett Dunston, can’t throw his way out of a wet tissue tent and Carlton Fears probably won’t have much time to see his receivers and will have hardly any time to set up and throw to them. Both offensive lines are questionable but I give the edge to WSSU thereby giving the rushing edge to the Rams.
It will be WSSU defense with 8 returning starters and veteran headcoach Blount and his more veteran coaching staff who will rule the day. WSSU coaching will be quicker on the draw with getting plays in and making adjustments than first time headcoach, Lee and his staff. WSSU defense will cause turnovers and setting up short field opportunities for the Rams. Don’t get discourage it is only the first game of the season and the Aggies will get better as the season gets longer. The Aggies are definitely in better physical shape than they have been in years.
WSSU Rams – 21
NCA&T Aggies - 7
Fears - 75 yds passing
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Post by garylo on Sept 2, 2009 9:06:03 GMT -5
a&t20 wssu - 7 in my opinion penalties will play a big role n the outcome the most discipline team will win fears150 mayhew over 90 yrds
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 2, 2009 9:59:27 GMT -5
Looking at the picks it is clear that most of us see WSSU as our little sister school and most pickers have little respect for Rams’ head coach, Blount. WSSU has long been A&T’s little sister school but currently WSSU has a higher graduating rate and better retention rate. Plus WSSU has a 2-1 edge since the rivalry restarted 3 years ago. A&T beat WSSU in a close game last year but A&T had the advantage of playing a week before WSSU opener against the Aggies. When the Rams had the same advantage 3 years ago they blew the Aggies out in Aggie Stadium. WSSU finished stronger than A&T even though the Aggies had an energetic interim headcoach, Ragsdale, at the helm and Fobbs was a disgraced memory. WSSU defense also allowed fewer points against the conference power teams than did the Aggies last year. Don’t look for a lot of offensive fire power from either team. WSSU’s QB, Jarrett Dunston, can’t throw his way out of a wet tissue tent and Carlton Fears probably won’t have much time to see his receivers and will have hardly any time to set up and throw to them. Both offensive lines are questionable but I give the edge to WSSU thereby giving the rushing edge to the Rams. It will be WSSU defense with 8 returning starters and veteran headcoach Blount and his more veteran coaching staff who will rule the day. WSSU coaching will be quicker on the draw with getting plays in and making adjustments than first time headcoach, Lee and his staff. WSSU defense will cause turnovers and setting up short field opportunities for the Rams. Don’t get discourage it is only the first game of the season and the Aggies will get better as the season gets longer. The Aggies are definitely in better physical shape than they have been in years. WSSU Rams – 21 NCA&T Aggies - 7 Fears - 75 yds passing good points, jazz. but don't forget that wssu also has a brand new offensive co-ordinator from savannah state who arrived in april. they have to learn a brand new offensive system just like we do and they have to replace "8" (count 'em) starters on offense. offensively, i give the advantage to us. and how can anyone compare a fobbs coached aggie football team to "anything"... |
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Post by 09aggie on Sept 2, 2009 10:10:38 GMT -5
WoW...u guys are a trip..All summer ive been on this site reading all this mumbo jumbo about the team and coach lee this and underground railroad that...now its time to go to war and im seeing people all of a sudden second guessing the team and what they can do. I went on WSSwho fan site and i did see a lot of promising things, as you would from any team's site. However, I didnt see ONE fan stating that they could possibly lose this game. This is our RIVAL people..where's the aggie pride? This comes with being a fan, you have to ride with your team. Win, lose, or draw im going to be in winston screaming Aggie pride. Some of you guys need to be aggie checked and this is coming from a young head. smh...
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 2, 2009 10:23:08 GMT -5
What is the name of their fan site? I didn't even know they had one.
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Post by treese on Sept 2, 2009 10:46:15 GMT -5
WoW...u guys are a trip..All summer ive been on this site reading all this mumbo jumbo about the team and coach lee this and underground railroad that...now its time to go to war and im seeing people all of a sudden second guessing the team and what they can do. I went on WSSwho fan site and i did see a lot of promising things, as you would from any team's site. However, I didnt see ONE fan stating that they could possibly lose this game. This is our RIVAL people..where's the aggie pride? This comes with being a fan, you have to ride with your team. Win, lose, or draw im going to be in winston screaming [/color] Aggie pride. Some of you guys need to be aggie checked and this is coming from a young head. smh...[/quote] Good strong word's young AGGIE!!! I remember when Born would talk trash with ANYONE....NO MATTER WHAT....now look... first the FAT BOYS break up.....now look at Born! |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 2, 2009 10:55:10 GMT -5
Who said I won't still talk trash to WSSU.? However, this thread was created so people can give their honest predictions about the game.
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Post by jslee850 on Sept 2, 2009 10:57:31 GMT -5
Looking at the picks it is clear that most of us see WSSU as our little sister school and most pickers have little respect for Rams’ head coach, Blount. WSSU has long been A&T’s little sister school but currently WSSU has a higher graduating rate and better retention rate. Plus WSSU has a 2-1 edge since the rivalry restarted 3 years ago. A&T beat WSSU in a close game last year but A&T had the advantage of playing a week before WSSU opener against the Aggies. When the Rams had the same advantage 3 years ago they blew the Aggies out in Aggie Stadium. WSSU finished stronger than A&T even though the Aggies had an energetic interim headcoach, Ragsdale, at the helm and Fobbs was a disgraced memory. WSSU defense also allowed fewer points against the conference power teams than did the Aggies last year. Don’t look for a lot of offensive fire power from either team. WSSU’s QB, Jarrett Dunston, can’t throw his way out of a wet tissue tent and Carlton Fears probably won’t have much time to see his receivers and will have hardly any time to set up and throw to them. Both offensive lines are questionable but I give the edge to WSSU thereby giving the rushing edge to the Rams. It will be WSSU defense with 8 returning starters and veteran headcoach Blount and his more veteran coaching staff who will rule the day. WSSU coaching will be quicker on the draw with getting plays in and making adjustments than first time headcoach, Lee and his staff. WSSU defense will cause turnovers and setting up short field opportunities for the Rams. Don’t get discourage it is only the first game of the season and the Aggies will get better as the season gets longer. The Aggies are definitely in better physical shape than they have been in years. WSSU Rams – 21 NCA&T Aggies - 7 Fears - 75 yds passing wow  dude you kidding me right? Why does everyone count having a new unproven head coach as a negative? Wow its his first head coach job, How many years was Coach lee under Coach Billy Joe at famu? How many years was lee under Coach Taylor as a assistant head coach at Hampton? Matter fact how may years has Coach Lee been around football period? As a head coach your not calling all the offensive an defensive calls your not play calling, as a head coach your the leader of the team the spokesmen the person who makes all the decisions, Wisdom alone will cover the amount of experience lee lacks as a head coach, and even then isn't a head coach still a coach? Its not like he doesn't know what he's doing because he does, what makes us believe having an unproven head coach will cause our team to perform any less. Why wouldn't he prepare mentally for situations and things that would happen, coaches prepare the same way as football player prepares mentally, what to expect what to anticipate etc. Why give the advantage to WSSU, once again ppl dwelling on the past 3 years ago WSSU also started playing meac opponents and beating them left an right also? Whats your point that was one of the best squads that they had! But what year was that again? Yea this is 2009 an new head coach a new offensive a new everything, and I'm sick of hearing well they're returning 8 defensive starter  so who are we returning on both sides of the ball? The offensive line want make anytime dude where have you been all summer? If you haven't noticed you have a bigger better offensive line that is faster an has depth that comes with it? If you haven't notice we're running a hit and go type offense so fears doesn't need more than three seconds b4 that ball is out of his hand! Evaluate your own team completely THIS YEAR then evaluate WSSU. You made another point its the first game of the year for both teams. So what they finish the year strong they're returning 8 starters on defense once again that was last year. You give them the slight edge, didn't they just get a new o coordinator so they're learning a new offense with a offense they have to start from scratch. We're preparing for what they do defensively, special teams, an what the offensive coordinator tends to do, we have film on what they like to do we're preparing with film, they're preparing with film on what they think we might do! Whose job sounds harder its a hit or its a miss! They have an identity and we don't! But believe what you may defense is our head coach specialty so why wouldn't he know what to do with certain defenses thrown at him? But believe what you must, just thought you should know all the pro's an cons compared to WSSU pro's and a&t con's. Like i heard in one of coach lee's pre game speeches when we were about to play Bethune cook man " Give me a few you good men who are willing to fight with no fear no doubt and are willing to die protecting the person next to you," I'll use that an say i don't care if its 5 Aggies in that stadium on Saturday give me a few good Aggies that will stand behind there to team, BELIEVE in there team, and keep cheering no matter what, i don't care if I'm out there alone. Dont talk it if your heart ain't into being and Aggie is like being a Christan you got to to do it hole heartedly not when you feel like it. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 2, 2009 11:39:30 GMT -5
jslee makes a good point regarding game preparation. we may not know what wssu's new oc has up his sleeves because their system will likely change from last year. but they're replacing 8 starters on offense with a new oc, so they've got their work cut out for their offense. defensively for wssu, we've got film on their system and their personnel. our offense has less of a challenge preparing for their defense than wssu's offense has preparing for our defense because we've got footage of their defensive personnel and scheme.
wssu can go back and look at last year's film on us, but "virtually" our entire coaching staff has changed as well as our offensive and defensive systems. the only thing wssu can get out of last year's footage on us is the performance of individuals. but scheme wise, last year's footage on us is useless. again, that plays to our advantage...
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Post by Aggie One on Sept 2, 2009 11:49:06 GMT -5
Many folks also forget or didn't know that there is also a new defensive coordinator at WSSU as well in Guilford College's former head coach Mike Ketchum who was let go as their head coach a few years back. They are also transitioning this year to a 3-4 defense from their normal 4-3 because of the lack of down linemen.
Everyone really needs to stop a moment and look a lot closer at match-ups before jumping out there predicting scores, spreads, strengths and weaknesses and who is better and who has the upper hand and what not.
Something to think about.
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dude you kidding me right? Why does everyone count having a new unproven head coach as a negative? Wow its his first head coach job, How many years was Coach lee under Coach Billy Joe at famu? How many years was lee under Coach Taylor as a assistant head coach at Hampton? Matter fact how may years has Coach Lee been around football period? As a head coach your not calling all the offensive an defensive calls your not play calling, as a head coach your the leader of the team the spokesmen the person who makes all the decisions, Wisdom alone will cover the amount of experience lee lacks as a head coach, and even then isn't a head coach still a coach? Its not like he doesn't know what he's doing because he does, what makes us believe having an unproven head coach will cause our team to perform any less. Why wouldn't he prepare mentally for situations and things that would happen, coaches prepare the same way as football player prepares mentally, what to expect what to anticipate etc. Why give the advantage to WSSU, once again ppl dwelling on the past 3 years ago WSSU also started playing meac opponents and beating them left an right also? Whats your point that was one of the best squads that they had! But what year was that again? Yea this is 2009 an new head coach a new offensive a new everything, and I'm sick of hearing well they're returning 8 defensive starter 
so who are we returning on both sides of the ball? The offensive line want make anytime dude where have you been all summer? If you haven't noticed you have a bigger better offensive line that is faster an has depth that comes with it? If you haven't notice we're running a hit and go type offense so fears doesn't need more than three seconds b4 that ball is out of his hand! Evaluate your own team completely THIS YEAR then evaluate WSSU. You made another point its the first game of the year for both teams. So what they finish the year strong they're returning 8 starters on defense once again that was last year. You give them the slight edge, didn't they just get a new o coordinator so they're learning a new offense with a offense they have to start from scratch. We're preparing for what they do defensively, special teams, an what the offensive coordinator tends to do, we have film on what they like to do we're preparing with film, they're preparing with film on what they think we might do! Whose job sounds harder its a hit or its a miss! They have an identity and we don't! But believe what you may defense is our head coach specialty so why wouldn't he know what to do with certain defenses thrown at him? But believe what you must, just thought you should know all the pro's an cons compared to WSSU pro's and a&t con's.
