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Post by blessedaggie84 on Apr 17, 2024 7:46:14 GMT -5
Lol…speaking of shots fired 😲 This is the height of disfunction for me! Somebody needs to fix it. As a former athlete and bandsman, This whole thing is embarrassing. That was nothing compared to what i saw on facebook, a current staff member from the band stated "why should we come and play for a team that was 1-9." This is where people say some folks can be emotional with their responses. |
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Post by ohsixrain on Apr 17, 2024 8:07:55 GMT -5
What a major difference, NC State band understands their role!!! performingartstech.dasa.ncsu.edu/perform/groups/athletic-bands/The marching band and pep band provide the soundtrack to the NC State game day experience for our student-athletes and fans. As a student-musician, or a member of the color guard, dance team and twirlers who make up the NC State marching band and pep band, you deliver school spirit and energy to athletic events and other campus festivities, and represent the university and the Wolfpack family both on and off campus. You also spend your days surrounded by your closest friends, making music together on the biggest stage the university has to offer. What’s better than that? It costs roughly $100 per semester for uniform, equipment and (optional) instrument rentals, on top of your tuition for MUS 131. All costs associated with travel to football or basketball games are covered for students. Occasional international trips are optional and costs would be the responsibility of the student. NC State band is under the department of Performing Arts and Technology.... performingartstech.dasa.ncsu.edu/The band has NEVER performed at the spring game, just FYI. And if you're going to use another school to compare A&T too, it would help your analysis to find a school that doesn't get a bigger budget and actually has a band facility Wait a minute, Professor...how much does it REALLY cost for the band to assemble at the band room and march to the stadium for a couple of hours on a Saturday? We are talking dollars and cents for an activity that should be essentially free, am I right...? You have to take your feelings out of it, step back off the situation and then ask yourself is/was it feasible for the band to be there so the event can grow. They want to grow the Spring game so the fanbase can gain enthusiasm for the program come this fall. Everything doesn't have to be a Science project, we should be able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. |
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Post by ohsixrain on Apr 17, 2024 8:26:35 GMT -5
Lol…speaking of shots fired 😲 This is the height of disfunction for me! Somebody needs to fix it. As a former athlete and bandsman, This whole thing is embarrassing. I couldn't agree more...you mean to tell me, these two events couldn't exist in concert?? Again, we show that we cannot walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. And for band members to take a tone with BDV and vice versa accomplishes nothing. We, as educated as we are, why can't we figure out a way for the band and the football program work in concert to put on an event that is light on the pockets? Simple question for engineers, business owners and educators. "Aggies Do" is our theme. But, it turns into "Aggies Do Except When The Band Is Involved Because They Have No Money!" Sheez...IT HAS TO STOP! |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 17, 2024 8:55:11 GMT -5
Sometimes I honestly question if most current band members would prefer not having to perform at any sporting events whatsoever.
From their comments, it seems like being in a "marching" band is worse than being water-boarded at a Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp. I think most of them would just prefer to do small concerts instead.
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Post by The Professor on Apr 17, 2024 9:07:17 GMT -5
The band has NEVER performed at the spring game, just FYI. And if you're going to use another school to compare A&T too, it would help your analysis to find a school that doesn't get a bigger budget and actually has a band facility Wait a minute, Professor...how much does it REALLY cost for the band to assemble at the band room and march to the stadium for a couple of hours on a Saturday? We are talking dollars and cents for an activity that should be essentially free, am I right...? You have to take your feelings out of it, step back off the situation and then ask yourself is/was it feasible for the band to be there so the event can grow. They want to grow the Spring game so the fanbase can gain enthusiasm for the program come this fall. Everything doesn't have to be a Science project, we should be able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. And the only people in their feelings are the diehards. If Coach Brown wanted the band at the event, he should have asked. Or made a request. Neither was done. The way people are carrying on you would think that a request was made and they said no. The university literally put out the information about the Spring Game on Wed for an event on Sat. But then you don't understand why the band can't mobilize in 72 hours. lol. The only reason this is a thing , is because someone ( or a few people ) want the band to be at their beckon call . To appear and perform at any and every event they see fit. |
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Post by westcoastaggie on Apr 17, 2024 11:18:41 GMT -5
Lol…speaking of shots fired 😲 This is the height of disfunction for me! Somebody needs to fix it. As a former athlete and bandsman, This whole thing is embarrassing. Tell Bornthrilla to stop tweeting. |
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Post by westcoastaggie on Apr 17, 2024 11:19:31 GMT -5
Sometimes I honestly question if most current band members would prefer not having to perform at any sporting events whatsoever. From their comments, it seems like being in a "marching" band is worse than being water-boarded at a Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp. I think most of them would just prefer to do small concerts instead. Have you ever performed with a Marching Band? |
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Post by aggie2039 on Apr 17, 2024 11:24:37 GMT -5
Sometimes I honestly question if most current band members would prefer not having to perform at any sporting events whatsoever. From their comments, it seems like being in a "marching" band is worse than being water-boarded at a Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp. I think most of them would just prefer to do small concerts instead. Have you ever performed with a Marching Band? Have you been water-boarded at Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp? |
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Post by ohsixrain on Apr 17, 2024 12:08:45 GMT -5
Wait a minute, Professor...how much does it REALLY cost for the band to assemble at the band room and march to the stadium for a couple of hours on a Saturday? We are talking dollars and cents for an activity that should be essentially free, am I right...? You have to take your feelings out of it, step back off the situation and then ask yourself is/was it feasible for the band to be there so the event can grow. They want to grow the Spring game so the fanbase can gain enthusiasm for the program come this fall. Everything doesn't have to be a Science project, we should be able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time. And the only people in their feelings are the diehards. If Coach Brown wanted the band at the event, he should have asked. Or made a request. Neither was done. The way people are carrying on you would think that a request was made and they said no. The university literally put out the information about the Spring Game on Wed for an event on Sat. But then you don't understand why the band can't mobilize in 72 hours. lol. The only reason this is a thing , is because someone ( or a few people ) want the band to be at their beckon call . To appear and perform at any and every event they see fit. I don't disagree with you...Coach Brown could have reached out but, I dare say his focus is the football team that went 1-9 more so than engaging the community per say. But, all parties have to be at the table when you are putting on an event that you want community involvement. But, I will say, that operating in a silo like the band program likes to operate in, creates the communication issues. Sometimes you have to see through the bs, the football program needs the band support...PERIOD. Those that disagree with that are misinformed. You were using cost as a reason for the band not showing at a spring football game...cost should be minimal as it relates to a spring game. So, is that really a legit reason...? And cost is totally different from Coach Brown and Dr. Ruff having a conversation. |
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Post by The Professor on Apr 17, 2024 12:41:36 GMT -5
And the only people in their feelings are the diehards. If Coach Brown wanted the band at the event, he should have asked. Or made a request. Neither was done. The way people are carrying on you would think that a request was made and they said no. The university literally put out the information about the Spring Game on Wed for an event on Sat. But then you don't understand why the band can't mobilize in 72 hours. lol. The only reason this is a thing , is because someone ( or a few people ) want the band to be at their beckon call . To appear and perform at any and every event they see fit. I don't disagree with you...Coach Brown could have reached out but, I dare say his focus is the football team that went 1-9 more so than engaging the community per say. But, all parties have to be at the table when you are putting on an event that you want community involvement. But, I will say, that operating in a silo like the band program likes to operate in, creates the communication issues. Sometimes you have to see through the bs, the football program needs the band support...PERIOD. Those that disagree with that are misinformed. You were using cost as a reason for the band not showing at a spring football game...cost should be minimal as it relates to a spring game. So, is that really a legit reason...? And cost is totally different from Coach Brown and Dr. Ruff having a conversation. Spring game was announced on February 17th on this site. Not placing a call or sending an email to the band asking for their participation is an oversight on who ever planned this. That's where your anger should be placed. And I'm pretty sure that's the same reason the cheerleaders weren't there, or the ROTC , or the LiveWires or Concession workers or security. But again to try and paint this like the band is abandoning athletics ( the football team) is asinine. Money was brought up because our program was compared to NC State. That's where money conversation came from. |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 17, 2024 12:50:30 GMT -5
This is the height of disfunction for me! Somebody needs to fix it. As a former athlete and bandsman, This whole thing is embarrassing. Tell Bornthrilla to stop tweeting. I am what is known as a thought leader. How would you guys even formulate your own ideas if it wasn't for me? |
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 17, 2024 13:14:00 GMT -5
This is the height of disfunction for me! Somebody needs to fix it. As a former athlete and bandsman, This whole thing is embarrassing. That was nothing compared to what i saw on facebook, a current staff member from the band stated "why should we come and play for a team that was 1-9." This is where people say some folks can be emotional with their responses. If a current staff member from the band made that statement then he/she should be a former staff member. Ultimately imo if they ain't been coming why would they pick this year to show up? Especially if Coach Brown isn't really worried about whether they show or not. Now if I was a band staff member I would see it as a way to showcase the band as opposed to seeing it as a burden. But the only instrument I ever played was the lunch table drumbeat. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 17, 2024 13:41:19 GMT -5
Constant attacks. lol Please stop with the victimhood. Name another media outlet that has done more to promote the BGMM than this site and I will send you a BDV prize pack. Some could argue that ESPN and HBCU Gameday fit that criteria. LOL. you're kidding, right? |
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Post by ohsixrain on Apr 17, 2024 16:35:12 GMT -5
I don't disagree with you...Coach Brown could have reached out but, I dare say his focus is the football team that went 1-9 more so than engaging the community per say. But, all parties have to be at the table when you are putting on an event that you want community involvement. But, I will say, that operating in a silo like the band program likes to operate in, creates the communication issues. Sometimes you have to see through the bs, the football program needs the band support...PERIOD. Those that disagree with that are misinformed. You were using cost as a reason for the band not showing at a spring football game...cost should be minimal as it relates to a spring game. So, is that really a legit reason...? And cost is totally different from Coach Brown and Dr. Ruff having a conversation. Spring game was announced on February 17th on this site. Not placing a call or sending an email to the band asking for their participation is an oversight on who ever planned this. That's where your anger should be placed. And I'm pretty sure that's the same reason the cheerleaders weren't there, or the ROTC , or the LiveWires or Concession workers or security. But again to try and paint this like the band is abandoning athletics ( the football team) is asinine. Money was brought up because our program was compared to NC State. That's where money conversation came from. Sir...no anger at all. Get out your feelings, the cheerleaders did attend the Big South championship game at Gardner-Webb so, it has to be apples to apples, sir. I love the band as well, but I will not ignore where there can be improvements. You can't walk around with a "My crap doesn't smell" attitude and not expect to get pushback sometimes. It doesn't work like that but, we can agree to disagree. |
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Post by oldschool on Apr 17, 2024 17:27:44 GMT -5
Tonight would be a perfect opportunity on "Blue Death After Dark" to hash things out ,why not invite Dr. Ruff ,AD Hilton and Chancellor Martin if necessary.
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