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Post by lilboy on Sept 12, 2023 6:26:02 GMT -5
Anyone in here have a solution for this season thats realistic since we're not going to utilize that patience thing? Play your young guys and evaluate who to retain for next season and then pray to God they don't transfer. |
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Post by KidHeartless on Sept 12, 2023 6:27:32 GMT -5
Anyone in here have a solution for this season thats realistic since we're not going to utilize that patience thing? I'm not throwing this season away......I just demand better, as we all should. We even got a bye week after Elon. I expect even more adjustments after the bye week. I'm not talking about wins and losses...I'm talking about IMPROVEMENT. This team needs to get better.....the coaching staff needs to get better. I agree & respect that answer. Thank you. |
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Post by planoaggie on Sept 19, 2023 9:27:36 GMT -5
The receivers aren't creating enough separation, the offensive line is allowing too much pressure in the backfield, getting a snap from center has turned into an adventure rather than a formality, the running game is inconsistent at best, players across the board are committing too many penalties and the offense as a whole doesn't appear to have a sense of identity or direction. And while it's unfair to pin all the blame on the quarterbacks (3 have played) a critical eye has to start there. It's the most important position on the field and the sharp decline has been startling. Is the above article talking about A&T? No, it's about Alabama. So even if you are considered one of the best college coach in the history of NCAA football, the coach can struggle finding a starting QB after 3 games that he can trust to lead the team the rest of the season. What is the difference between Coach Brown and Coach Saban? Why are the Alabama fans not pointing the finger at Coach Saban for team poor offensive performance? It is below their team expected standards. Because the Alabama fans know they have a good/great coach based on past performance, while Coach Brown head coaching ability is an unknown. Coach Saban, who typically has the top recruiting class of talented players every year, gets less flack than Coach Brown who did not recruit over half of the players on the roster. How many of these QBs that have played did Coach Brown recruit? I have not made up my mind yet whether Coach Brown is the problem of our poor performance. I require more time. But it is very obvious that the team is playing terrible and changes need to be made. I posted this in another thread, but Coach Broadway in his 1st season went 1-2 in his first 3 games (5-6 for the season). How well did he turn out as a coach for A&T? He would have gone 0-3 if he had not beaten up on VUL a non-D1 school that started back playing football that year(2011) since 1954. Now we are not going to come close to 5-6 in my opinion, but all our problems are not with the QBs or the coaches. That is not to say that they can't be a major part of our troubles. Let's see if he knows what he is doing and give him appropriate time to try and fix the problem. Hopefully we see quite a bit of improvement in the team's performance our next game after taking advantage of a bye week to fix things. www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38433032/nick-saban-alabama-football-quarterback-problem%3fplatform=amphbcubuzz.com/2011/07/virginia-university-of-lynchburg-plans-to-launch-a-football-program-this-fall-since-1954/ |
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Post by DOOMS on Sept 19, 2023 10:02:45 GMT -5
Plano, that's a thinking man's post.
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Post by Maxell on Sept 19, 2023 10:11:12 GMT -5
I will not be surprised if we see no change at QB.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Sept 19, 2023 11:03:28 GMT -5
Don't disagree one bit.....both Achilles will need to pop in order for Yeager to get benched.
I don't believe in talking players up to #1 (ie. White; Hooker). If they showed glimpses of being ready, they'd be in there by now.
It is.......what it is.
If I was the OC, I'd sit Yeager down during the off-week and just flat out ask him:
1) What are things you are comfortable doing
2) What are things I do that you ARE NOT comfortable with
3) What are some things you think you can do that we haven't explored
After you ask him these questions, INCREASE the number of plays that satisfy question 1; ELIMINATE PLAYS that go along to the answer for question 2; devise a few plays for the answer to question 3 and see how well they work in practice.
Coach Young has to get Yeager comfortable. He needs to put any ego/personal goals he has to the side and do WHATEVER NECESSARY TO MAKE OUR QB FEEL COMFORTABLE.
Again, Yeager threw for 248 yds vs Central last year. I'm not saying he's a superstar-in-the-making.....but there is some tape out there that shows he halfway knows how to throw forward passes.
To summarize: Less of what Chris Young WANTS - more of what Yeager NEEDS.
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Post by ohsixrain on Sept 19, 2023 14:13:13 GMT -5
Don't disagree one bit.....both Achilles will need to pop in order for Yeager to get benched. I don't believe in talking players up to #1 (ie. White; Hooker). If they showed glimpses of being ready, they'd be in there by now. It is.......what it is. If I was the OC, I'd sit Yeager down during the off-week and just flat out ask him: 1) What are things you are comfortable doing 2) What are things I do that you ARE NOT comfortable with 3) What are some things you think you can do that we haven't explored After you ask him these questions, INCREASE the number of plays that satisfy question 1; ELIMINATE PLAYS that go along to the answer for question 2; devise a few plays for the answer to question 3 and see how well they work in practice. Coach Young has to get Yeager comfortable. He needs to put any ego/personal goals he has to the side and do WHATEVER NECESSARY TO MAKE OUR QB FEEL COMFORTABLE. Again, Yeager threw for 248 yds vs Central last year. I'm not saying he's a superstar-in-the-making.....but there is some tape out there that shows he halfway knows how to throw forward passes. To summarize: Less of what Chris Young WANTS - more of what Yeager NEEDS. That's what I would think a good coordinator would do... I'm waiting for the coaches to fit the scheme to the talent because, the last OC could make him run the playbook whether he was comfortable or not. But, I have to say Barnette's plays worked with more success than Young's. |
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Post by VA's Finest on Sept 23, 2023 17:52:53 GMT -5
Just saw where Oregon OC is also the QB coach, and they have enough money to hire 10 QB coaches, just saying.
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Post by aggie2039 on Sept 23, 2023 18:50:11 GMT -5
Just saw where Oregon OC is also the QB coach, and they have enough money to hire 10 QB coaches, just saying. They also get high level QBs not those that require a lot of coaching up. Bo Nix has 51 starts at the P5 level. Furthermore, they have 5 offensive analyst and 2 offensive grad assistants on staff. |
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Post by A&T-roy on Sept 23, 2023 22:49:33 GMT -5
Just saw where Oregon OC is also the QB coach, and they have enough money to hire 10 QB coaches, just saying. They also get high level QBs not those that require a lot of coaching up. Bo Nix has 51 starts at the P5 level. Furthermore, they have 5 offensive analyst and 2 offensive grad assistants on staff. From what I can tell, quite a few teams have their OC also as their QB Coach. That said, I'd rather have separate jobs. |
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Post by DOOMS on Sept 24, 2023 9:30:35 GMT -5
I’m fine with someone handling both, if it’s working.
We just have to find a combination that will work for us.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 24, 2023 10:06:45 GMT -5
Just saw where Oregon OC is also the QB coach, and they have enough money to hire 10 QB coaches, just saying. They also get high level QBs not those that require a lot of coaching up. Bo Nix has 51 starts at the P5 level. Furthermore, they have 5 offensive analyst and 2 offensive grad assistants on staff. All quarterbacks require a lot of coaching up. It is like how every PGA golfer has a full time swing coach. You constantly need to refine and reinforce your mechanics in order to perform at a high level. My concern if that there is nothing in Chris Young’s background that says he is a proven quarterback guru. |
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Post by saabman on Sept 24, 2023 10:20:05 GMT -5
Man you guys are really reaching for answer to our quarterback problems.
Your on here Googling stuff that most of you already know ,that most OC's do more then just scheme and prepare game plans. Most OC's are either quarterback coaches or receiver position coaches or analyst outside of their OC duties. The same holds true for DC's ,DB,LB or DL position coaches and analyst.
Stand alone QB's coaches are rare and far between . Also a good quarterback is only as good as the line that protects him and the receivers the catch his passes.
You may have the most accurate quarterback in the world but if a receiver cannot catch his passes he is just a quarterback with a good arm that is accurate.
If his line-men can not protect him and give him time, he is just a good quarterback with LIVE ARM that is ACCURATE WHEN HE GETS THE TIME TO Throw 😆 a good example of this would be Archie Manning of the old New Orleans Saints. Archie was far better than both of his sons but Archie had a terrible line and even worse receivers. But when he could pass ,he was accurate and could make all the throws, but his receivers had no hands so Archie was known more as a running quarterback than a passer because he was always scrambling for his life.
There is a saying in Coaching ( at least in the circles I have been associated with).
Great Receivers can make a Good Quarterback Great and
a Great Quarterback can make Good Receivers Great
A Great O-line Can make a Good Quarterback and Receivers Great
And if you can put all three things together you could possibly make all 3 positions in to Legends
A good example of this was the Miami Dolphins team that went undefeated and won the Super-Bowl . Few athletes come ready-made all of them still need Coaching and before you labor a quarterback as being great take a look at the individuals around them, the offensive line and the receivers catching his passes and the running backs behind him. You could not be great without players around you that are just as good or great in their ability to execute.
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Post by planoaggie on Sept 24, 2023 11:32:45 GMT -5
Just like taking your car to a repair shop to be fixed. The problem could be due to one or more bad parts (players). If the shop is having trouble determining what is wrong with car after a while, you may start questioning whether the mechanics (coaching staff) knows what they are doing or you need to take your car to another shop (head coach change).
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Post by saabman on Sept 24, 2023 13:39:34 GMT -5
Just like taking your car to a repair shop to be fixed. The problem could be due to one or more bad parts (players). If the shop is having trouble determining what is wrong with car after a while, you may start questioning whether the mechanics (coaching staff) knows what they are doing or you need to take your car to another shop (head coach change). Or OC after you have spent 100 of $$$. But the difference here is Trust . If your mechanic has been reliable and truthful with you, he would tell you that this vehicle is not worth the headache and dollars you are investing in it to fix the problem, that is what my mechanic told me when I bought him my TR6 for repairs back in the '80s. But most coaches cannot be that straightforward not named Dion. Coach Browns is in a situation where he inherited a supposedly experience offensive line, but for some reason have forgotten the basic fundamentals of pass blocking and protecting the quarterback. Now we have a technician that is experienced and has produced many exceptional road worthy vehicle (O lineman) . Now is it the head mechanic or is it the fault of his technicians that the vehicle is not running right or is it the right parts that are not being used or applied right (OC) (players) . But after doing the Diagnostics you find that the parts have been replaced and should be working accordingly but they are faulty (players) . You return them to the warehouse (Bench) and replace with a none-faulty (depth chart) part . Or you rig it so that it will run until you can find the funds to purchase a new vehicle (recruiting) or rebuild it from the ground up. Is what I did with my TR6 but it took 3 years and I still have Red to this day . Point being you can run through Mechanics and technicians (HC , OC and staff) or you can let Coach Brown build this program with his own parts because it is looking as if The team was not left with much talent after Coach Washington's exit. Don't get it twisted this team has talent but Coach Brown and his staff has to make it perfectly Clear that this inferior display of production by our Offensive unit will not or no longer be tolerated . It is one thing to lose but it's another thing to lose when you have talented athletes that play with no discipline,execution or pride. |
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