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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2022 17:17:46 GMT -5
After looking at NDSU team we don’t need a FBS game in 2022, they have FBS size across the defensive and offensive lines. No need to play two FBS teams in one season! They are paying us just like a FBS team would… And I hate that. They have played worse programs in a home and home .. we should have worked that out in my opinion. They are a fcs team and we should never be treated the same as Mississippi Valley State or others like we are not a legitimate fcs program. Moves like that deligitimize our program. This game should have been played at a neutral site or home and home. We gotta do better with scheduling .. we did the same thing with JMU.. it should be a rule of you are a fcs program we are not doing a money game - our program and our attendance is comprable to yours. All money ain’t good money. This is a bad money game. What HBCU has proven that they shouldn't be treated as such by North Dakota State? I mean, if they smacked Montana State in the FCS Championship and the last few HBCUs they played got boat raced, What should we expect with the holes we have defensively and offensively? Honestly, I'll be happy going into Big South Play 2-1 or 3-1 depending on how the conference schedule shakes out.
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Post by aggieswag on Jan 9, 2022 19:51:31 GMT -5
And I hate that. They have played worse programs in a home and home .. we should have worked that out in my opinion. They are a fcs team and we should never be treated the same as Mississippi Valley State or others like we are not a legitimate fcs program. Moves like that deligitimize our program. This game should have been played at a neutral site or home and home. We gotta do better with scheduling .. we did the same thing with JMU.. it should be a rule of you are a fcs program we are not doing a money game - our program and our attendance is comprable to yours. All money ain’t good money. This is a bad money game. What HBCU has proven that they shouldn't be treated as such by North Dakota State? I mean, if they smacked Montana State in the FCS Championship and the last few HBCUs they played got boat raced, What should we expect with the holes we have defensively and offensively? Honestly, I'll be happy going into Big South Play 2-1 or 3-1 depending on how the conference schedule shakes out. This is the what I’m talking about - mentality.. what PWI has proven the same thing. Delaware sure didn’t .. and they smacked everyone the same why should we just because we are an hbcu with the same outcome expect to be treated different. I’m sure glad the Track team didn’t have the mentality “what hbcu has done a track run around at the end for placing in top 3” . Wheeew we got a lot of work to do.. but we will get there. These kids going to make believers out of you. These same kids that are ranked #2 in the state in earnings at an HBCU!
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Post by A&T-roy on Jan 10, 2022 10:54:30 GMT -5
What HBCU has proven that they shouldn't be treated as such by North Dakota State? I mean, if they smacked Montana State in the FCS Championship and the last few HBCUs they played got boat raced, What should we expect with the holes we have defensively and offensively? Honestly, I'll be happy going into Big South Play 2-1 or 3-1 depending on how the conference schedule shakes out. This is the what I’m talking about - mentality.. what PWI has proven the same thing. Delaware sure didn’t .. and they smacked everyone the same why should we just because we are an hbcu with the same outcome expect to be treated different. I’m sure glad the Track team didn’t have the mentality “what hbcu has done a track run around at the end for placing in top 3” . Wheeew we got a lot of work to do.. but we will get there. These kids going to make believers out of you. These same kids that are ranked #2 in the state in earnings at an HBCU! aggiesawg - I tend to agree on the home and home. That said, if "some" programs aren't open to it, then pay me the money! Being a "top" program tends to have its privileges and I believe NDSU & JMU currently fit the bill. Hopefully we'll get there one day.
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Post by aggieswag on Jan 10, 2022 13:45:49 GMT -5
If anyone listens to the beginning of the Jax State game the first sentence is “welcome to Montgomery Alabama where two of top fcs teams in the country are here” .. that’s the way we need to be addressed when it’s a out of conference top 25 showdown. We downplay it by making it a money game and if they don’t want to do it that’s fine. We can make statements elsewhere. But my guess if you are a competitor you want to play this game you will make it work.
I will also note if anyone wants to go to NDSU fan forum their fans said the exact same thing “why is this a money game” about two pages on it. And they saw the positivity of expanding their brand in the Carolina’s or this would be great in Chicago or neutral site game. It’s our mindset not theirs.
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Post by AggiePride on Jan 25, 2022 14:32:30 GMT -5
How long before we get an update in regards to the news of the day?
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Post by saabman on Jan 25, 2022 15:56:07 GMT -5
And I hate that. They have played worse programs in a home and home .. we should have worked that out in my opinion. They are a fcs team and we should never be treated the same as Mississippi Valley State or others like we are not a legitimate fcs program. Moves like that deligitimize our program. This game should have been played at a neutral site or home and home. We gotta do better with scheduling .. we did the same thing with JMU.. it should be a rule of you are a fcs program we are not doing a money game - our program and our attendance is comprable to yours. All money ain’t good money. This is a bad money game. What HBCU has proven that they shouldn't be treated as such by North Dakota State? I mean, if they smacked Montana State in the FCS Championship and the last few HBCUs they played got boat raced, What should we expect with the holes we have defensively and offensively? Honestly, I'll be happy going into Big South Play 2-1 or 3-1 depending on how the conference schedule shakes out. I have been keeping eyes on NDSU for sometime not as a fan but as an admirer of how they can take no name players and win national championships . But with that being said NDSU has rarely plays FCS programs in a H&H regardless of there rankings unless they are regionally located period. This has nothing to do with how HBCU's are being treated or not by NDSU that is just there way . You can count on one hand the number of FCS/BCS programs that NDSU has played in a H&H. You got what you have been asking for " Playing the best " it's too LATE to be SCARED that A&T MIGHT get EMBARRASSED now . Then again they could surprise us the way we did Jacksonville a few years ago all that depends on how the coaching staff have them prepared that is what you should be worried about .
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Post by The Professor on Jan 26, 2022 7:53:04 GMT -5
After looking at NDSU team we don’t need a FBS game in 2022, they have FBS size across the defensive and offensive lines. No need to play two FBS teams in one season! They are paying us just like a FBS team would… And I hate that. They have played worse programs in a home and home .. we should have worked that out in my opinion. They are a fcs team and we should never be treated the same as Mississippi Valley State or others like we are not a legitimate fcs program. Moves like that deligitimize our program. This game should have been played at a neutral site or home and home. We gotta do better with scheduling .. we did the same thing with JMU.. it should be a rule of you are a fcs program we are not doing a money game - our program and our attendance is comprable to yours. All money ain’t good money. This is a bad money game. JMU is a FBS program now
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Post by The Professor on Jan 26, 2022 7:54:02 GMT -5
What teams have they played home and home that aren’t in their conference. Delaware for one .. I am sure there are others on their side of the country. D2 schools play money games against fcs schools the whole notion of two nationally ranked programs in the same division - which was the case when this deal was made is absurd. That’s the equivalent of NC State ranked 17th playing a money game at Alabama.. they would never disrespect themselves like that and neither should we. Just for context , Delaware has won a D2 and a FCS National Championship And A&T isn't a national ranked FCS football program
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Post by The Professor on Jan 26, 2022 7:55:37 GMT -5
What HBCU has proven that they shouldn't be treated as such by North Dakota State? I mean, if they smacked Montana State in the FCS Championship and the last few HBCUs they played got boat raced, What should we expect with the holes we have defensively and offensively? Honestly, I'll be happy going into Big South Play 2-1 or 3-1 depending on how the conference schedule shakes out. I have been keeping eyes on NDSU for sometime not as a fan but as an admirer of how they can take no name players and win national championships . But with that being said NDSU has rarely plays FCS programs in a H&H regardless of there rankings unless they are regionally located period. This has nothing to do with how HBCU's are being treated or not by NDSU that is just there way . You can count on one hand the number of FCS/BCS programs that NDSU has played in a H&H. You got what you have been asking for " Playing the best " it's too LATE to be SCARED that A&T MIGHT get EMBARRASSED now . Then again they could surprise us the way we did Jacksonville a few years ago all that depends on how the coaching staff have them prepared that is what you should be worried about . Exactly. In FCS football, if we want to achieve any type of success we will eventually run into them. Might as well learn how they operate and get paid to do it
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Post by aggieswag on Jan 26, 2022 9:59:43 GMT -5
I have been keeping eyes on NDSU for sometime not as a fan but as an admirer of how they can take no name players and win national championships . But with that being said NDSU has rarely plays FCS programs in a H&H regardless of there rankings unless they are regionally located period. This has nothing to do with how HBCU's are being treated or not by NDSU that is just there way . You can count on one hand the number of FCS/BCS programs that NDSU has played in a H&H. You got what you have been asking for " Playing the best " it's too LATE to be SCARED that A&T MIGHT get EMBARRASSED now . Then again they could surprise us the way we did Jacksonville a few years ago all that depends on how the coaching staff have them prepared that is what you should be worried about . Exactly. In FCS football, if we want to achieve any type of success we will eventually run into them. Might as well learn how they operate and get paid to do it I understand we are not now but when we scheduled it we most certainly were. It was scheduled after 2019 celebration bowl victory coming off wins 3/4 fbs opponents win over App State, a win over a top 10 fcs program. So don’t get it twisted. The game was not set on this off year performance and everyone knows that. The FCS world made a big deal of the announcement because of the circumstances. Those circumstances warrant a top 25 marquee match up and should have been billed and marketed that way. At the very least should have been a neutral site like we did with Jax State .. home and home if we can get it. To your point we might not have been able to sell home and home but that is far from disrespecting the program and not making it a neutral site TV game which it easily could have been. And could have probably made the same $$ 7x FCS National champion vs 4 x HBCU champion. All the undertones were there no one had to say a word. And if ESPN thought A&T and Jax State could make money - they know what this game could bring. It would have had more viewership than the FCS nation championship game- 💯 . I will say again this is not just my thinking this is the the overwhelming thinking of their fans who evidently gave us more respect than we give ourselves.. which is par
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Post by The Professor on Jan 26, 2022 10:17:45 GMT -5
Exactly. In FCS football, if we want to achieve any type of success we will eventually run into them. Might as well learn how they operate and get paid to do it I understand we are not now but when we scheduled it we most certainly were. It was scheduled after 2019 celebration bowl victory coming off wins 3/4 fbs opponents win over App State, a win over a top 10 fcs program. So don’t get it twisted. The game was not set on this off year performance and everyone knows that. The FCS world made a big deal of the announcement because of the circumstances. Those circumstances warrant a top 25 marquee match up and should have been billed and marketed that way. At the very least should have been a neutral site like we did with Jax State .. home and home if we can get it. To your point we might not have been able to sell home and home but that is far from disrespecting the program and not making it a neutral site TV game which it easily could have been. And could have probably made the same $$ 7x FCS National champion vs 4 x HBCU champion. All the undertones were there no one had to say a word. And if ESPN thought A&T and Jax State could make money - they know what this game could bring. It would have had more viewership than the FCS nation championship game- 💯 . I will say again this is not just my thinking this is the the overwhelming thinking of their fans who evidently gave us more respect than we give ourselves.. which is par Actually most NDSU fans that I've interacted with are more so annoyed with us and the attention we receive and want to run up the score on us to prove how superior they are. Whether u want to believe it or not , most FCS circles view HBCU football as inferior
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Post by aggie2039 on Jan 26, 2022 10:44:39 GMT -5
Exactly. In FCS football, if we want to achieve any type of success we will eventually run into them. Might as well learn how they operate and get paid to do it I understand we are not now but when we scheduled it we most certainly were. It was scheduled after 2019 celebration bowl victory coming off wins 3/4 fbs opponents win over App State, a win over a top 10 fcs program. So don’t get it twisted. The game was not set on this off year performance and everyone knows that. The FCS world made a big deal of the announcement because of the circumstances. Those circumstances warrant a top 25 marquee match up and should have been billed and marketed that way. At the very least should have been a neutral site like we did with Jax State .. home and home if we can get it. To your point we might not have been able to sell home and home but that is far from disrespecting the program and not making it a neutral site TV game which it easily could have been. And could have probably made the same $$ 7x FCS National champion vs 4 x HBCU champion. All the undertones were there no one had to say a word. And if ESPN thought A&T and Jax State could make money - they know what this game could bring. It would have had more viewership than the FCS nation championship game- 💯 . I will say again this is not just my thinking this is the the overwhelming thinking of their fans who evidently gave us more respect than we give ourselves.. which is par HBCU title 🗑
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Post by aggieswag on Jan 26, 2022 11:11:57 GMT -5
I understand we are not now but when we scheduled it we most certainly were. It was scheduled after 2019 celebration bowl victory coming off wins 3/4 fbs opponents win over App State, a win over a top 10 fcs program. So don’t get it twisted. The game was not set on this off year performance and everyone knows that. The FCS world made a big deal of the announcement because of the circumstances. Those circumstances warrant a top 25 marquee match up and should have been billed and marketed that way. At the very least should have been a neutral site like we did with Jax State .. home and home if we can get it. To your point we might not have been able to sell home and home but that is far from disrespecting the program and not making it a neutral site TV game which it easily could have been. And could have probably made the same $$ 7x FCS National champion vs 4 x HBCU champion. All the undertones were there no one had to say a word. And if ESPN thought A&T and Jax State could make money - they know what this game could bring. It would have had more viewership than the FCS nation championship game- 💯 . I will say again this is not just my thinking this is the the overwhelming thinking of their fans who evidently gave us more respect than we give ourselves.. which is par HBCU title 🗑 That’s so 😢
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Post by DOOMS on Jan 26, 2022 12:10:46 GMT -5
I understand we are not now but when we scheduled it we most certainly were. It was scheduled after 2019 celebration bowl victory coming off wins 3/4 fbs opponents win over App State, a win over a top 10 fcs program. So don’t get it twisted. The game was not set on this off year performance and everyone knows that. The FCS world made a big deal of the announcement because of the circumstances. Those circumstances warrant a top 25 marquee match up and should have been billed and marketed that way. At the very least should have been a neutral site like we did with Jax State .. home and home if we can get it. To your point we might not have been able to sell home and home but that is far from disrespecting the program and not making it a neutral site TV game which it easily could have been. And could have probably made the same $$ 7x FCS National champion vs 4 x HBCU champion. All the undertones were there no one had to say a word. And if ESPN thought A&T and Jax State could make money - they know what this game could bring. It would have had more viewership than the FCS nation championship game- 💯 . I will say again this is not just my thinking this is the the overwhelming thinking of their fans who evidently gave us more respect than we give ourselves.. which is par Actually most NDSU fans that I've interacted with are more so annoyed with us and the attention we receive and want to run up the score on us to prove how superior they are. Whether u want to believe it or not , most FCS circles view HBCU football as inferior What NDSU fans have you interacted with and how. When I went to Fargo none of the fans had even heard of us. If you're interacting with a few diehard FCS posters on the internets I don't think it actually counts for much.
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Post by aggieswag on Jan 26, 2022 12:59:35 GMT -5
Let me just put this out there. For all the people who keep denigrating hbcu football calling it “trash” “JV” “chitlin conference I pray you deal w your inferiority issues because here’s the real tea - 80% of the football world views the entire FCS the exact same way . Craig Haley just did a Twitter post on it.
“FCS football is not real football”
Football at any level is about $$$$$$ . There are a handful of teams that vie for a national championship but 90% of college football programs wake up with the aspiration to play in a bowl game for exposure and $$.. of course you want to be competitive at your highest level be D2 FCS Army/Navy HBCU does not matter .. if you are not the Alabama’s and Clemsons everyone views it all the same ..
The Chitlin conferences do this better than anyone. Which is why the chitlin conference leads in revenue and viewership every year. The heart and soul of FCS football .
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