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Post by The Professor on Jan 26, 2022 13:14:07 GMT -5
Actually most NDSU fans that I've interacted with are more so annoyed with us and the attention we receive and want to run up the score on us to prove how superior they are. Whether u want to believe it or not , most FCS circles view HBCU football as inferior What NDSU fans have you interacted with and how. When I went to Fargo none of the fans had even heard of us. If you're interacting with a few diehard FCS posters on the internets I don't think it actually counts for much. I've actually met 2 that work for the same company I do. They just don't grasp why we were getting all the national championship attention when we aren't playing the best in FCS. Moreso a jealously and we aren't getting the attention thing. Actually looking forward to hanging with them in Fargo |
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Post by The Professor on Jan 26, 2022 13:16:09 GMT -5
Let me just put this out there. For all the people who keep denigrating hbcu football calling it “trash” “JV” “chitlin conference I pray you deal w your inferiority issues because here’s the real tea - 80% of the football world views the entire FCS the exact same way . Craig Haley just did a Twitter post on it. “FCS football is not real football” Football at any level is about $$$$$$ . There are a handful of teams that vie for a national championship but 90% of college football programs wake up with the aspiration to play in a bowl game for exposure and $$.. of course you want to be competitive at your highest level be D2 FCS Army/Navy HBCU does not matter .. if you are not the Alabama’s and Clemsons everyone views it all the same .. The Chitlin conferences do this better than anyone. Which is why the chitlin conference leads in revenue and viewership every year. The heart and soul of FCS football . If the HBCU championship is so important, why do we only award it in Football? Why is thier no HBCU March madness etc where the top HBCU basketball teams compete for a title. If being HBCU champs is more important than a FCS title or NCAA title , why are we apart of the NCAA in the 1st place |
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Post by Bornthrilla on Jan 26, 2022 13:24:27 GMT -5
Because football is the most high profile sport for HBCUS. Our schools' overall athletic brand is centered around football. That is what spawned HBCU marching band culture and the extravagant homecoming culture.
You would not have drumlines and GHOE without football. The football program is a big part of the HBCU school identity.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jan 26, 2022 14:46:18 GMT -5
Let me just put this out there. For all the people who keep denigrating hbcu football calling it “trash” “JV” “chitlin conference I pray you deal w your inferiority issues because here’s the real tea - 80% of the football world views the entire FCS the exact same way . Craig Haley just did a Twitter post on it. “FCS football is not real football” Football at any level is about $$$$$$ . There are a handful of teams that vie for a national championship but 90% of college football programs wake up with the aspiration to play in a bowl game for exposure and $$.. of course you want to be competitive at your highest level be D2 FCS Army/Navy HBCU does not matter .. if you are not the Alabama’s and Clemsons everyone views it all the same .. The Chitlin conferences do this better than anyone. Which is why the chitlin conference leads in revenue and viewership every year. The heart and soul of FCS football . If the HBCU championship is so important, why do we only award it in Football? Why is thier no HBCU March madness etc where the top HBCU basketball teams compete for a title. If being HBCU champs is more important than a FCS title or NCAA title , why are we apart of the NCAA in the 1st place Before the Celebration Bowl caught on there really wasn't much emphasis on the HBCU National Football Champion. Yeah, I know a National Black College Football Champions have been named for decades. But those Championships were selected by some little known organizations and had little or no financial or publicity value. The Celebration Bowl is much like the old "Orange Bowl",and "Cotton Bowl... teams playing for bragging rights only. Sure the SWAC and MEAC Football programs get some degree of monetary and recognition. But unfortunately the Celebration Bowl does not establish where those teams fit in the FCS. |
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Post by DOOMS on Jan 26, 2022 15:30:24 GMT -5
HBCUs generally don't fit well in FCS for any number of reasons that don't need to be in this particular thread.
Meanwhile we're finding ourselves on the precipice of not fitting well within the hbcu niche of FCS football, which also isn't on a par with mainstream FCS football due primarily to access to households and financial support. We finna be out of a conference at this rate.
I wonder if this season is a make or break season in the eyes of the administration as far as football goes. I submit if we are able to win double digits (a tall order imo) and get past a playoff game (a close to impossible order imo) then that would make us more attractive to a more stable, higher rated, equally compact, and equally offensively named conference (cough cough, Southern).
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Post by Maxell on Jan 26, 2022 15:43:51 GMT -5
Whether u want to believe it or not , most FCS circles view HBCU football as inferior ...because it is. |
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Post by saabman on Jan 26, 2022 16:14:46 GMT -5
Whether u want to believe it or not , most FCS circles view HBCU football as inferior ...because it is. They view HBCU Coaching , Preparation and Execution as inferior without a doubt, but HBCU talent is viewed on a intirely different optical level . And that includes the QB position . I was talking to friend a few nights ago about Fowler that coaches at NTS in Denton He said " In the right hands and system he could be a very effective QB with the right coaching" . |
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Post by Maxell on Jan 26, 2022 16:26:41 GMT -5
They view HBCU Coaching , Preparation and Execution as inferior without a doubt, but HBCU talent is viewed on a intirely different optical level . Why to you keep wanting to separate the two? It takes both. Talent + Coaching = Championships. Other wise the kids could just go out there and play on their own and beat NDSU. And even on that point, our linemen are no where near as talented. |
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Post by saabman on Jan 26, 2022 16:56:56 GMT -5
They view HBCU Coaching , Preparation and Execution as inferior without a doubt, but HBCU talent is viewed on a intirely different optical level . Why to you keep wanting to separate the two? It takes both. Talent + Coaching = Championships. Other wise the kids could just go out there and play on their own and beat NDSU. And even on that point, our linemen are no where near as talented. Because they are separate 😆 With out proper Coaching, Preparation and Execution you can have and all star team talent wise and get your brains beat out by a less talented team that has been coached properly. Hell I saw that this season on display . Talent didn't beat us but being Out Coached , Out STRATEGIZED, Out Prepared and Out Executed broke a foot off in our A$$$'s . Hell if the athletes were not talented enough that is even more of a blot on the coaching staff because they recruited those players . And it show a lacking in Coaching, Preparation and Execution when you have that many athletes that under perform . That is unheard of in any program wouldn't you say . And don't give me that injury excuse 😆 Let me make it sample 1. You have to coach the talent because "There are no ready-made players 2. You have to evaluate , Prepare and strategically position your players 3. They have to Execute and not be confused looking like they are lost . |
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Post by Maxell on Jan 26, 2022 17:30:54 GMT -5
Why to you keep wanting to separate the two? It takes both. Talent + Coaching = Championships. Other wise the kids could just go out there and play on their own and beat NDSU. And even on that point, our linemen are no where near as talented. Because they are separate 😆 With out proper Coaching, Preparation and Execution you can have and all star team talent wise and get your brains beat out by a less talented team that has been coached properly. Hell I saw that this season on display . Talent didn't beat us but being Out Coached , Out STRATEGIZED, Out Prepared and Out Executed broke a foot off in our A$$$'s . Hell if the athletes were not talented enough that is even more of a blot on the coaching staff because they recruited those players . And it show a lacking in Coaching, Preparation and Execution when you have that many athletes that under perform . That is unheard of in any program wouldn't you say . And don't give me that injury excuse 😆 Let me make it sample 1. You have to coach the talent because "There are no ready-made players 2. You have to evaluate , Prepare and strategically position your players 3. They have to Execute and not be confused looking like they are lost . Saab, I get all of that and my point is if we get our azz handed to us by Gardner-Webb, they don't care which one it was. It's all one thing to THEM. |
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Post by aggieswag on Jan 26, 2022 17:39:14 GMT -5
Because they are separate 😆 With out proper Coaching, Preparation and Execution you can have and all star team talent wise and get your brains beat out by a less talented team that has been coached properly. Hell I saw that this season on display . Talent didn't beat us but being Out Coached , Out STRATEGIZED, Out Prepared and Out Executed broke a foot off in our A$$$'s . Hell if the athletes were not talented enough that is even more of a blot on the coaching staff because they recruited those players . And it show a lacking in Coaching, Preparation and Execution when you have that many athletes that under perform . That is unheard of in any program wouldn't you say . And don't give me that injury excuse 😆 Let me make it sample 1. You have to coach the talent because "There are no ready-made players 2. You have to evaluate , Prepare and strategically position your players 3. They have to Execute and not be confused looking like they are lost . Saab, I get all of that and my point is if we get our azz handed to us by Gardner-Webb, they don't care which one it was. It's all one thing to THEM. People don’t get it .. none of that matters at all. If it did Hampton who is deplorable in every single sport would not be in a better conference than us and yes better than the Southern Conference that some people feel is out of reach. Being competitive is a plus but it’s clearly not a prerequisite. I’ll say it again for the people in the back .. college football is about viewership and dollars. Everything else is extra. And the teams in the Chitlin conference is attractive. Just because we fail to see it does not mean other don’t. They know what it’s about, and any team in the Chitlin conference is ripe for pickin because we lead over 85% of the schools in what they so desperately need. |
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Post by DOOMS on Jan 26, 2022 17:45:08 GMT -5
The CB was probably the most viewed and lucrative thing going and we left it behind. Not to mention we generally fail to advertise much of anything positive we do on a decent scale. I mean the commercial is excellent but why not four of them? Where are the billboards that should be plastered at every entrance to the state and in Atlanta, DC, Bmore, etc?
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Post by saabman on Jan 26, 2022 18:16:50 GMT -5
Because they are separate 😆 With out proper Coaching, Preparation and Execution you can have and all star team talent wise and get your brains beat out by a less talented team that has been coached properly. Hell I saw that this season on display . Talent didn't beat us but being Out Coached , Out STRATEGIZED, Out Prepared and Out Executed broke a foot off in our A$$$'s . Hell if the athletes were not talented enough that is even more of a blot on the coaching staff because they recruited those players . And it show a lacking in Coaching, Preparation and Execution when you have that many athletes that under perform . That is unheard of in any program wouldn't you say . And don't give me that injury excuse 😆 Let me make it sample 1. You have to coach the talent because "There are no ready-made players 2. You have to evaluate , Prepare and strategically position your players 3. They have to Execute and not be confused looking like they are lost . Saab, I get all of that and my point is if we get our azz handed to us by Gardner-Webb, they don't care which one it was. It's all one thing to THEM. 4Sure I agree 100 but I don't give a flip about them . Ones A&T gets their act together and start kicking the right programs A$$ they will take notice, just like with the track program . Like my father said to me when Mr Free came to our house about a fight I was in with Connie bull 😆 Mr Free said I gave as good has I got But Connie Bull was better 😆 he said to me " you will never have another fight again because you kept on coming " the word got out on the street that I hung in there with Connie bull regardless how bad it looked, never never was stepped to by anyone after that A$$ whipping 😆 because they noticed. No different in football ,and it can start with NDSU take them to the wire or deep into the 4th quarter people will take notice trust me . |
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Post by aggie2039 on Jan 26, 2022 19:09:33 GMT -5
Let me just put this out there. For all the people who keep denigrating hbcu football calling it “trash” “JV” “chitlin conference I pray you deal w your inferiority issues because here’s the real tea - 80% of the football world views the entire FCS the exact same way . Craig Haley just did a Twitter post on it. “FCS football is not real football” Football at any level is about $$$$$$ . There are a handful of teams that vie for a national championship but 90% of college football programs wake up with the aspiration to play in a bowl game for exposure and $$.. of course you want to be competitive at your highest level be D2 FCS Army/Navy HBCU does not matter .. if you are not the Alabama’s and Clemsons everyone views it all the same .. The Chitlin conferences do this better than anyone. Which is why the chitlin conference leads in revenue and viewership every year. The heart and soul of FCS football . Fox News leads in viewership but it is still 🗑 |
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Post by aggieswag on Jan 27, 2022 12:58:09 GMT -5
Let me just put this out there. For all the people who keep denigrating hbcu football calling it “trash” “JV” “chitlin conference I pray you deal w your inferiority issues because here’s the real tea - 80% of the football world views the entire FCS the exact same way . Craig Haley just did a Twitter post on it. “FCS football is not real football” Football at any level is about $$$$$$ . There are a handful of teams that vie for a national championship but 90% of college football programs wake up with the aspiration to play in a bowl game for exposure and $$.. of course you want to be competitive at your highest level be D2 FCS Army/Navy HBCU does not matter .. if you are not the Alabama’s and Clemsons everyone views it all the same .. The Chitlin conferences do this better than anyone. Which is why the chitlin conference leads in revenue and viewership every year. The heart and soul of FCS football . Fox News leads in viewership but it is still 🗑 Precisely.. you view them that way and so do others. But guess who does not view it that way. Them and their followers.. they think they are the best in the world.. and they make a ton of $$.. Moral of the story.. just because of others view you a certain way does not mean you cave to that mentality. Do you - know your worth- and make that $$$.. they could care less what you think about them .. and we should operate the same way. |
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