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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 12, 2012 14:47:13 GMT -5
The first game at A&T and two straight at Elon according to the News-Record. That means they will bring 150 people to the first game and we will average 2000 people or more for two straight years down there. Then year 4 they bring 175 people up here ... as President Clinton stated - "Arithmetic". Do the math. All of that promoting stuff ain't gone change the "Arithmetic". Not enough time. So what? We do nothing?
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Post by JeffAggieFan on Sept 12, 2012 14:50:37 GMT -5
Is it next year we can schedule 4 nonconference games
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Post by aggieblackie on Sept 12, 2012 14:54:53 GMT -5
I am not whining. I am stating facts Monster. The fact is that we "will" fill their stadium up to the brim and they will make a ton of money off of us. They will come to our stadium and we "will not" make any money off of them and you know the reason why. They won't come to Aggie Stadium!
People are talking about if we win we will draw "x" amount of people and that is true. With the added amount of fans from our winning record and an increased fan base from Elon, our profits from this game would increase.
However, I don't put any faith in their fans showing up in Aggie Stadium as has been proven before. They have their fan base an home that attend every game. We have our fan base at home that attend every game. Which school do you think will make the most money at home between "T" and Elon?
Get it now?
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 12, 2012 15:00:23 GMT -5
I am not whining. I am stating facts Monster. The fact is that we "will" fill their stadium up to the brim and they will make a ton of money off of us. They will come to our stadium and we "will not" make any money off of them and you know the reason why. They won't come to Aggie Stadium! People are talking about if we win we will draw "x" amount of people and that is true. With the added amount of fans from our winning record and an increased fan base from Elon, our profits from this game would increase. However, I don't put any faith in their fans showing up in Aggie Stadium as has been proven before. They have their fan base an home that attend every game. We have our fan base at home that attend every game. Which school do you think will make the most money at home between "T" and Elon? Get it now? I do, so your saying you would do nothing? Look, I get why your "mad" or whatever it is, but the game is scheduled. You have stated your displeasure with scheduling Elon. But whats your solution other than "we shouldn't play them"? Most people's solution is "we should play WSSU" or "we should play a money game". I'm coming at this from the stand point of "this game is scheduled, so how to we maximize it". I hope all the people mad at us scheduling Elon was equally mad at us scheduling Coastal because playing them was worse.
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Post by Aggie77 on Sept 12, 2012 15:11:26 GMT -5
Why add NSU? Keep in mind my statement was specific to SCSU. That statement isn't applicable all colleges all sports.
I don't see a trend in the SCSU numbers that support your point that winning increases attendance. The fluctuation you see in the attendance for SCSU is probably just FAMU at home. Statistically the numbers are the same. Are you attributing and increase 13k to 14K, or 16k to 17k to winning? It might have been balloon day or it rained one game. If the numbers had gone from 12K, 15K, 18K, 20K, as the team continued to succeed, I could see your point.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 12, 2012 15:45:47 GMT -5
Why add NSU? Keep in mind my statement was specific to SCSU. That statement isn't applicable all colleges all sports. I don't see a trend in the SCSU numbers that support your point that winning increases attendance. The fluctuation you see in the attendance for SCSU is probably just FAMU at home. Statistically the numbers are the same. Are you attributing and increase 13k to 14K, or 16k to 17k to winning? It might have been balloon day or it rained one game. If the numbers had gone from 12K, 15K, 18K, 20K, as the team continued to succeed, I could see your point. you're totally "misconstruing" my point. but that's cool. i don't know how anybody could argue anything other than "winning" fills football stadiums more. i'll say it just one more time. our "DEMOGRAPHICS" are far more favorable than scsu's. there's no reason whatsoever (other than "winning") that they should draw more fans than we do or even come close given our "DEMOGRAPHICS". if you can't see that, then i can't help you, bruh. and regarding me including nsu, was to demonstrate how their attendance never surpassed ours until "they started winning". it wasn't marketing, it wasn't promoting, it wasn't scheduling, it was "winning"! again, if you can't see that, then i can't help you...
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Sept 12, 2012 15:50:32 GMT -5
I still never understood why folks get mad because another team doesn't fill up our stadium. That's crazy talk to me. It's up to Aggies to fill Aggie Stadium. Yes, I would love for Elon's fans to come to Aggie Stadium, but failure from us to CULTIVATE WITHIN is our failure - not Elon's; not WVSU's; not anyone else's.
Relying upon opposing schools to help our bottom line is flawed thinking.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 12, 2012 15:58:35 GMT -5
cause they have no drive naborhood. They want people to show up just because......I guess Aggie Pride or something.
We have 4 non-conference games. Hypothetically if we had the perfect storm of WSSU at home and a FBS payday and then Elon as one of the last 2 games those same people would still choose to do nothing to promote that game. Just leave money on the table. "Elon never comes to Aggie Stadium so screw it" would be the mentality. Shame.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 12, 2012 16:11:42 GMT -5
I still never understood why folks get mad because another team doesn't fill up our stadium. That's crazy talk to me. It's up to Aggies to fill Aggie Stadium. Yes, I would love for Elon's fans to come to Aggie Stadium, but failure from us to CULTIVATE WITHIN is our failure - not Elon's; not WVSU's; not anyone else's. Relying upon opposing schools to help our bottom line is flawed thinking. superstar, i can't speak for everybody, but i "think" folk just don't like the idea of being "pimped". we pad their pockets but they don't pad ours. i mean, look at the turnout we had at ccu? no way in hail ccu has "ever" brought nearly as many folk to greensboro as we brought to conway! i think a&t has always traveled well, few if any hbcu's or fcs pwc's travel better than us. and i don't think our folk expect schools like elon to match our turnout that we bring to burlington. its just that the number of folk they do bring to greensboro which is less than 20 minutes from their home, is disproportional to what some of us perceive they are capable of bringing. there's no reason elon shouldn't be able to bring at least 500 fans to greensboro. me personally, i don't get too caught up with how many fans other schools bring to aggie stadium. but it does make you wonder why elon doesn't bring more fans than they do. it is because they're afraid of an hbcu crowd? is because they have an elitist attitude towards a&t? do they think they're too good to attend a game at an hbcu? to me, whatever the reason is, it doesn't cast a positive light on a&t from their perspective...
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Post by aggieblackie on Sept 12, 2012 16:13:28 GMT -5
Look Nabor ... Elon relies on us to make money and that is why they ran all the way to the bank as soon as the contract was signed. They know we are going to fill the stands up on our side at their stadium. That is evident. We are also going to purchase tailgate spots on their campus to tailgate. More money. Do you think they are going to do that at Aggie Stadium? If they do it will be a handful and not like the numbers of us that tailgate down there. Seen it in the past.
Our program is in the need for money. We ain't gone make none by playing Elon. Now if we want to play them just to say we have better competition on our schedule then that is a different story. I can see that part but this ain't no money making game for us.
A&T relies on WSSU, NCCU & SC State to help with their bottom lines. Why do you think they were and are called money games. What is the difference with Elon? Nothing!!
You have your flawed and crazy opinions and I have mine.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 12, 2012 16:14:26 GMT -5
In Elons defense they dont go ANYWHERE for football. I have APP coworkers who say the same thing about Elon when they come to Boone. They fill Elons stadium, but Elon doesn't come to theirs. It's not a black/HBCU thing! Very few FCS schools travel well. With them being only 20 miles away I still think we can get more of them to come than whats currently coming. Or spark more local interest because of who we are playing. It doesn't necessarily has to be Elon fans.
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Post by aggieblackie on Sept 12, 2012 16:16:32 GMT -5
MONSTER, I AGREE. THE COASTAL CAROLINA GAME WAS A HORRIBLE SCHEDULE. ELON IS BETTER BUT THE FACT IS WE WILL NOT MAKE ANY MONEY AT HOME NO MATTER WHAT WE TRY. I AM NOT MAD OR DISAPPOINTED THAT THEY ARE ON OUR SCHEDULE BECAUSE IT IS BETTER COMPETITION FOR US. WE NEED THAT.
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Post by Aggie77 on Sept 12, 2012 16:20:04 GMT -5
Why add NSU? Keep in mind my statement was specific to SCSU. That statement isn't applicable all colleges all sports. I don't see a trend in the SCSU numbers that support your point that winning increases attendance. The fluctuation you see in the attendance for SCSU is probably just FAMU at home. Statistically the numbers are the same. Are you attributing and increase 13k to 14K, or 16k to 17k to winning? It might have been balloon day or it rained one game. If the numbers had gone from 12K, 15K, 18K, 20K, as the team continued to succeed, I could see your point. you're totally "misconstruing" my point. but that's cool. i don't know how anybody could argue anything other than "winning" fills football stadiums more. i'll say it just one more time. our "DEMOGRAPHICS" are far more favorable than scsu's. there's no reason whatsoever (other than "winning") that they should draw more fans than we do or even come close given our "DEMOGRAPHICS". if you can't see that, then i can't help you, bruh. and regarding me including nsu, was to demonstrate how their attendance never surpassed ours until "they started winning". it wasn't marketing, it wasn't promoting, it wasn't scheduling, it was "winning"! again, if you can't see that, then i can't help you... You are apparently addressing an issue only you brought up!
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 12, 2012 16:20:30 GMT -5
MONSTER, I AGREE. THE COASTAL CAROLINA GAME WAS A HORRIBLE SCHEDULE. ELON IS BETTER BUT THE FACT IS WE WILL NOT MAKE ANY MONEY AT HOME NO MATTER WHAT WE TRY. I AM NOT MAD OR DISAPPOINTED THAT THEY ARE ON OUR SCHEDULE BECAUSE IT IS BETTER COMPETITION FOR US. WE NEED THAT. OK, so we agree on that. We just disagree that money can or can not be made. I think it can. At least more than any other FCS outside of App. I'm not talking about a WSSU type sellout here, just a small 1000-2000 more fans than playing say a......um......take your pick outside of WSSU or App. With our return distance being so short it just makes sense financially to have a home and home with these guys. Our fans at least know who Elon is. That's a few more aggies than other schools would draw.
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Post by aggieblackie on Sept 12, 2012 16:21:36 GMT -5
OLD SCHOOL - YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD PERFECT.
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