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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 12, 2012 10:48:35 GMT -5
If Coastal Carolina owes us a home game next year, that means Broadway will only be able to schedule one creampuff in 2013.
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Post by aggie2ru on Sept 12, 2012 10:52:25 GMT -5
That contract w/CCU is over........... unless they extend it.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Sept 12, 2012 10:56:45 GMT -5
Uh oh.
Well then hello Southern Tennessee Missionary Tech...
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Sept 12, 2012 11:34:56 GMT -5
Great move Hilton. This game has the potential to be big again. Make no mistake - we're gonna drive this series, with our fanbase. Howver, Elon has a new coach and they are trying to get things turned around there as well.
This is what I've been personally clamoring for. Playing 2 jive games like we are this year doesn't benefit much of anyone. Elon immediately gives us better competition, a developing/legit rival and more green because of its game attraction.
For folks talking about what went wrong with the series years back....LET'S MAKE THIS CORRECTION NOW!! There is no reason why this game shouldn't potentially be a sellout at either stadium. We can get Guilford, Alamance and surrounding counties geeked up in coming to this game. LAY THE GROUNDWORK DOWN NOW!!!!!
This is an excellent move - EXCELLENT!!!
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 12, 2012 11:37:05 GMT -5
thank God broadway is our coach! thank God he's calling the shots! and not the fans...  |
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 12, 2012 12:48:03 GMT -5
In reality Hilton makes the schedule. Broadway makes request.
But back to topic. So the game is next year. Its odd they get 2 straight years at Elon, but anyways. Promotion for this game should start Aug 1st
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 12, 2012 12:55:50 GMT -5
do you really think it was hilton's sole decision to schedule vul and wvsu? in his press conference, broadway didn't appear to be very apologetic whatsoever for dropping "77" big ones on wvsu. yep, like i said, thank God broadway's calling the shots... |
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Post by Aggie77 on Sept 12, 2012 13:04:46 GMT -5
SCSU is probably not a good example to reference regarding winning and attendance.  why not? our enrollment is 3 times the size of theirs and greensboro is probably 10 times bigger than orangeburg. yet, scsu has a better average home attendance rate than we do and its been that way for several years. now, i might agree that app state isn't a good comparison. but in "principle", it's the same for app state too. win and they will come... I'm not sure what time frame you're referencing, but winning at SCSU has not turned into butts in the seats. During the Coach Pough's era they have averaged less fans than us with 4 conference championships and not a single losing season and at least 7 wins a year. While we have 1 conference championship and 1 winning season over that period. Now if you are talking about the last 3 to 5 years, that's probably a different story, but even with that, I bet we are still in the same ball park, and they have three championships in that period. SCSU is notorious for lack of success at the gate compared to success on the field. That's primary reason they implemented a GameZone, or whatever itthey call it. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 12, 2012 14:02:45 GMT -5
Now if you are talking about the last 3 to 5 years, that's probably a different story, but even with that, I bet we are still in the same ball park, and they have three championships in that period. SCSU is notorious for lack of success at the gate compared to success on the field. That's primary reason they implemented a GameZone, or whatever itthey call it. yep, that's exactly the time period i'm referring to. and again, i point out that our enrollment, alumni base, and metropolitan area "trump" that of scsu's. our demographics are far "superior" to theirs. so one would expect our attendance figures to substantially exceed theirs, but it doesn't. however, it would substantially exceed theirs if we had their winning record over the last 3 to 5 years, and that's my point. nothing brings fans into a stadium more than winning. here's the "official" ncaa attendance figures over the last 4 years for us, scsu, and nsu. you'll also notice how nsu never had better figures than us until they started "winning" recently. 3 out of the last 4 years, scsu has had better attendance figures than us and it doesn't take a "brain surgeon" to figure out why. listed below are the years, the "national attendance rankings" followed by the "average" home attendance figures for us, scsu, and nsu.. www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Stats/Football/Attendance/index.htmlyear 2011 scsu #14 16460 , nsu #16 15171, a&t #20 13917 year 2010 scsu #13 14862, nsu #26 11879, a&t #19 13388 year 2009 scsu #7 17027, nsu #27 10950, a&t #6 17219 year 2008 scsu #16 13383, nsu #27 10645, a&t #26 10764 |
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 12, 2012 14:09:48 GMT -5
do you really think it was hilton's sole decision to schedule vul and wvsu? in his press conference, broadway didn't appear to be very apologetic whatsoever for dropping "77" big ones on wvsu. yep, like i said, thank God broadway's calling the shots... I dont think he decides soley, but it is HIS decision ultimately. Good ADs consult with the coach about the schedule and listen to their input. They weigh what the coach said in with other factors like budget, possible money games etc, but they dont have to. I've listened to coach after coach b*tch about their ADs decision to play this team or that team for out of conference games. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 12, 2012 14:14:47 GMT -5
do you really think it was hilton's sole decision to schedule vul and wvsu? in his press conference, broadway didn't appear to be very apologetic whatsoever for dropping "77" big ones on wvsu. yep, like i said, thank God broadway's calling the shots... I dont think he decides soley, but its his decision to decide with Broadway. But it is HIS decision ultimately. Good ADs consult with the coach about the schedule, but they dont have to.  are you serious? do you really think hilton prefers to play vul and wvsu? c'mon, that's a broadway call and hilton backed him up on it. now let's get back to the subject at hand. we'll agree to disagree... |
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 12, 2012 14:16:12 GMT -5
I dont think he decides soley, but its his decision to decide with Broadway. But it is HIS decision ultimately. Good ADs consult with the coach about the schedule, but they dont have to. are you serious? do you really think hilton prefers to play vul and wvsu? c'mon, that's a broadway call and hilton backed him up on it. now let's get back to the subject at hand. we'll agree to disagree... Yeah, lets do that. Cause I clearly said he probably worked with Broadway. Oh, and the topic at hand is ideas for a better ELON game. We cant control winning. Thats up to the staff. |
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Post by aggieblackie on Sept 12, 2012 14:18:12 GMT -5
Monster you are contradicting yourself. First you stated that we should not take the
conversation back about their fan base not showing at our stadium. Then you state
since Elon is so close we should care about the fan base.
I am for us coming up with ideas to promote this game and to draw their fans to our
stadium. This is important and it should be carried out to find ways to attract their fans.
However, the point of them not attending games at our stadium the last series we had
with them is a valid concern and should not be dismissed.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 12, 2012 14:20:43 GMT -5
Monster you are contradicting yourself. First you stated that we should not take the conversation back about their fan base not showing at our stadium. Then you state since Elon is so close we should care about the fan base. I am for us coming up with ideas to promote this game and to draw their fans to our stadium. This is important and it should be carried out to find ways to attract their fans. However, the point of them not attending games at our stadium the last series we had with them is a valid concern and should not be dismissed. My point is we shouldn't focus on them NOT showing up and use that as an excuse not to want to play them. We are playing them, so lets figure out a way to make the best of it and quit whining about how they have not come to A&T in the past. Get it now? |
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Post by aggieblackie on Sept 12, 2012 14:28:13 GMT -5
The first game at A&T and two straight at Elon according to the News-Record.
That means they will bring 150 people to the first game and we will average
2000 people or more for two straight years down there.
Then year 4 they bring 175 people up here ... as President Clinton stated -
"Arithmetic". Do the math.
All of that promoting stuff ain't gone change the "Arithmetic". Not enough time.
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why not? our enrollment is 3 times the size of theirs and greensboro is probably 10 times bigger than orangeburg. yet, scsu has a better average home attendance rate than we do and its been that way for several years.