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Post by Tee-Sharp on Sept 12, 2012 9:26:06 GMT -5
Name a couple. All I can think of is travel distance and their membership in the SoCon. Most of the benefits are potentials and rely on building a rivalry. We have to add an incentive other than them having a winning team, like a trophy "The Carolina Cup". If they have a winning program they will show up in decent numbers. If I remember correctly the first two times they came to Aggie Stadium they came in decent numbers. After that one program or both sucked. 1 - Cost (travel) 2 - SOS (FCS member, SOCon) 3 - Recruiting upper hand (when we win) 4 - Rival (we need joint marketing to build it) 5 - Bragging Rights 6 - Fun for everybody These are great ideas, although the name “Carolina Cup” is too broad in scope. It needs to be something local to Greensboro and Burlington. The “Triad Cup” or “US-70 Cup” comes to mind. Heck, if both schools can find a joint local sponsor, put their name on the cup. As long as it’s not the KFC trophy, I’m good.
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Post by Aggie77 on Sept 12, 2012 9:35:33 GMT -5
We need to go a step further. This should seek to extend the reach beyond the team's fan base. Granted it has to start there, but then success will rely on the success of the teams year in and year out. We need more than A&T/ELON fans to get involved. We need to make this a regional event. How do you do that, I don’t know!
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 12, 2012 9:46:30 GMT -5
i think getting elon back on our schedule is a good thing (as long as we don't compete against them as horribly as central has). however, when it comes to promotions, i'm from the old school. back in the day, we didn't have to go crazy with promotions to get folk to come to our games. i don't believe in having to "artificially" build a fanbase or "artificially" attract fans to our games. yeah, you might get a few more folk to come for one game. but if we lose that game, those very same folk will be even harder to draw back to aggie stadium in the future. to me, whenever you have to "over promote" your product, that means you don't have a very good product.
my belief is that we should build a viable product (our football program) that attracts fans on its own! yes its true, no matter how good we are, we'll always need a reasonable amount of promotions. but to me, bending over backwards with promotions to get folk to come to our games is a problem, not a solution. it says, the only way we can get folk to come to our games is by "bombarding" them with promotions (which could be add to our expenses).
well, i don't think schools like scsu, app state, or wssu have to "over promote" their product to draw fans to their games. that's because they built a product that attracts fans better than any "artificial" enticements could ever do! the best promotional tool that can be found anywhere on this planet is called, "WINNING"!
nothing on the planet attracts fans better than, "WINNING"! "WINNING"! "WINNING"! so that's where my focus is. returning our program and keeping our program at the top of the meac. the only way to attract fans who keep coming back is by, "WINNING"! to me, promotions only work "temporarily" unless you have a viable product...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 12, 2012 9:49:05 GMT -5
We need to make this a regional event. How do you do that, I don’t know! and the answer is? by "WINNING"!!
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 12, 2012 9:51:41 GMT -5
We need to go a step further. This should seek to extend the reach beyond the team's fan base. Granted it has to start there, but then success will rely on the success of the teams year in and year out. We need more than A&T/ELON fans to get involved. We need to make this a regional event. How do you do that, I don’t know! Again, winning is the obvious cure all, but lets not leave money on the table by not promoting this thing. 77, You can go to high schools with it. Tickets for Triad area high school football players should be $5-$10. Give them their own section or something over in the "U". Promote this game to the high school athletes like this is THE GAME in the area. You should be there if you play football in the TRIAD. You could be at one of these schools when you finish your high school career. We all know only a small percentage of Triad kids will get recruited by either school, but nothing wrong with hyping that up. The triad has plenty of high schools, so 10 kids per would be great. It would also be a good promotion for the University itself. Thats my idea
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Post by Aggie77 on Sept 12, 2012 9:54:04 GMT -5
These are great ideas, although the name “Carolina Cup” is too broad in scope. It needs to be something local to Greensboro and Burlington. The “Triad Cup” or “US-70 Cup” comes to mind. Heck, if both schools can find a joint local sponsor, put their name on the cup. As long as it’s not the KFC trophy, I’m good. When you narrow the scope, narrow the interest down to just the schools involved. We want to capture the interest of a broader market. The "Carolina Cup" would get broader air play and peek the interest of more people than a narrower title.
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Post by trues on Sept 12, 2012 9:54:53 GMT -5
I hate to sound negative. But I wish we had schedule UNC charlotte before they move up to D-1A .Broadway would be to scared to play them.
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Post by Aggie77 on Sept 12, 2012 10:03:16 GMT -5
Sure winning is the main component, but it's not the only component of a successful program. If only your fans knows you are winning how do you sustain a sucessful program. You can't depend on winning alone to sustain a program. Plus, I don't think winning alone will bring in new fans, it may bring back some of the old fans.
SCSU is probably not a good example to reference regarding winning and attendance.
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Post by treese on Sept 12, 2012 10:04:46 GMT -5
I hate to sound negative. But I wish we had schedule UNC charlotte before they move up to D-1A .Broadway would be to scared to play them. You kidding right? ?
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Post by ohsixrain on Sept 12, 2012 10:05:02 GMT -5
Monster...you may be right, those ideas possibly could boost Elon fan attendance in our stadium. But, I could be stuck in a box here...if they have to be convinced to come to their own game, something's not right here. That just feels strange to me...just like when we played FAMU one year for homecoming and we invited their band (which is the norm), they want us to pay them $20,000 to come to their own game... What am I missing? That sort of seems like the same type principle to me. As for promoting to the high schools students attending, I'm all for that...we should be doing that anyway.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 12, 2012 10:13:29 GMT -5
Monster...you may be right, those ideas possibly could boost Elon fan attendance in our stadium. But, I could be stuck in a box here...if they have to be convinced to come to their own game, something's not right here. That just feels strange to me...just like when we played FAMU one year for homecoming and we invited their band (which is the norm), they want us to pay them $20,000 to come to their own game... What am I missing? That sort of seems like the same type principle to me. As for promoting to the high schools students attending, I'm all for that...we should be doing that anyway. I hope i dont offend, but your stuck on the same thing everyone else who brings up that is. And that's the fact that they make more money off us than we make off them. Try looking at it this way. Take the away games at Elon out of the equation period. Forget that we go to Elon every other year. Look at it like we have a game on week 3 and we play Elon. How do we get the most PEOPLE....I'll type it again....PEOPLE we can in our stadium? That's the only way we should be looking at it. Forget the away game, forget how much money they make on their gate. How do we get 2000 more paying fans at the game this year than there was last time Elon came to A&T. if that means 800 more Elon fans + 400 more Aggies + 800 high schoolers and friends that works. It doesn't matter what the makeup is. Lets just get 2000 more fans than we had last time.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 12, 2012 10:17:50 GMT -5
I hate to sound negative. But I wish we had schedule UNC charlotte before they move up to D-1A .Broadway would be to scared to play them. Cant be scared of a team thats never hit the field, LOL. UNCC's schedule is just full for a few years They probably wont be going FBS as quickly as they say in there "hype machine" news stories. I seriously doubt they will beat App there, if either goes at all.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Sept 12, 2012 10:28:25 GMT -5
SCSU is probably not a good example to reference regarding winning and attendance. why not? our enrollment is 3 times the size of theirs and greensboro is probably 10 times bigger than orangeburg. yet, scsu has a better average home attendance rate than we do and its been that way for several years. now, i might agree that app state isn't a good comparison. but in "principle", it's the same for app state too. win and they will come...
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 12, 2012 10:31:58 GMT -5
Winning is a fine, but we are talking about Elon at Aggie Stadium possible next year. The game will be played early and possibly WEEK 1. Records may not matter. We must promote this game in order for it to be a success at our place.
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Post by Tee-Sharp on Sept 12, 2012 10:35:58 GMT -5
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