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Post by aggiebred09 on Nov 1, 2011 7:53:56 GMT -5
So all these folks complaining but not one of these complainers has mentioned a donation to 90.1. You get what you pay for folks. This is our house and if the sink is leaky, you get in there & fix it, or pay somebody to do it.
Honestly I understand the concern, but I also understand the underfunded radio station which probably doesn't get a check from A&T Athletics for their services.
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Post by Bigboy on Nov 1, 2011 8:52:11 GMT -5
It is still frustrating to listen to their broadcast but to be honest, they have shown some improvement this season. No, I have not lost my mind, but compared to past years, it seems like there is some improvement. The addition of Al Swann and the brother that is the stadium announcer for our home games has made a difference. I don't know the brother's name but he joins the broadcast crew on away games.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2011 9:06:24 GMT -5
So all these folks complaining but not one of these complainers has mentioned a donation to 90.1. You get what you pay for folks. This is our house and if the sink is leaky, you get in there & fix it, or pay somebody to do it. Honestly I understand the concern, but I also understand the underfunded radio station which probably doesn't get a check from A&T Athletics for their services. Quoted For Truth.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 1, 2011 10:34:35 GMT -5
man, all dem cats who announce our football games feel like brothers to me! they were there when i first came to a&t, they were there when i left, and they're still there. i luv 'em like brothers, but its time for their azzes to GO!!
its an "embarrassment" to think when opposing fans listen to our broadcasts, these guys is what they hear. now, don't get me wrong. few if any are more loyal by nature than i am. i will literally fight to the bitter end for my roots and where i come from. so i mean it when i say that i luv these guys. but there comes a time when you've got to cut ties with poor performance and that time came several years ago for our radio crew.
ya see, probably the biggest problem there is with our athletic department and also ultimately our admins, is that we will "tolerate" poor performance indefinitely just for the sake of good ole a&t loyalty. a lot of folk over at dowdy should've been fired a long time ago for poor performance, but naw, we "tolerate" poor performance as long as you bleed aggie blue and gold.
folks, while i myself is a tried and true loyalist, that's not the attitude we need at the highest levels of our administration and certainly not in our athletic department. we hear it all the time, "where is the accountability"? well, let me put it this way. if dr. harvey at hampton was our chancellor, everybody's azz under him would be held accountable or else their azzes would be GONE!! ever wonder why hampton has arguably the best run athletic department "from top to bottom" than any other hbcu in america? its because he's the total opposite of our admins. he adequately funds all of his athletic programs and if "anybody" who works for him (and not just coaches) doesn't perform their job to his satisfaction, they're outta there!
no way in hail our radio crew would've lasted this long at hampton. yes, we should show spencer gwynn and crew the utmost respect. and yes, they most certainly should be sent off with dignity. but the quality of their broadcasts is a reflection of our university and quite honestly, i don't want folk thinking of a&t in the same light as the quality of our radio crew. we can do better, much much better...
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Post by marchingband1969 on Nov 1, 2011 13:46:56 GMT -5
So all these folks complaining but not one of these complainers has mentioned a donation to 90.1. You get what you pay for folks. This is our house and if the sink is leaky, you get in there & fix it, or pay somebody to do it. Honestly I understand the concern, but I also understand the underfunded radio station which probably doesn't get a check from A&T Athletics for their services. I'm not sure what the next step is but it's obvious that the current football announcers need to be replaced. I believe that if we had a better football show (better announcers) we would find more sponsors to underwrite the broadcast. Also if the show was better, I know there are some loyal Aggies that would pay a fee to listen to the show. I paid $90 last year for sports internet services and I don't think I was the only person. Let's start by "retiring" the current crew and recruiting "interium" announcers for next season. If we have better announcers for one season we may find that funding the show would be less of a problem. Go Aggies!
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Post by aggiebred09 on Nov 1, 2011 14:05:59 GMT -5
I'm not sure what the next step is but it's obvious that the current football announcers need to be replaced. I believe that if we had a better football show (better announcers) we would find more sponsors to underwrite the broadcast. Also if the show was better, I know there are some loyal Aggies that would pay a fee to listen to the show. I paid $90 last year for sports internet services and I don't think I was the only person. Let's start by "retiring" the current crew and recruiting "interium" announcers for next season. If we have better announcers for one season we may find that funding the show would be less of a problem. Go Aggies! Who is going to pay for the new Announcers? If they do it for free would we assume their travel? Who's budget would it come from (WNAA or Athletics, or AAF?) What if they cant do a game, will we have to call the old crew back and beg them to do it? I can see how the announcer situation is not a top priority. In the grand scheme of recession budget athletics, it would almost be a waste of money to hire full time announcers. On top of that you would be hard pressed to find a company to sponsor a radio show of only a few hundred to a thousand listeners. The most cost effective approach would be to have a student intern learn the ropes under the old crew for a season and slowly transition him to be the head announcer. Always keep one of the old school guys around for dexterity.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 1, 2011 16:42:09 GMT -5
man, i can't believe paying for announcers should deter us from hiring a better quality radio crew. i mean, we're talking 'bout a part time job that only requires services 11 saturdays a year.
surely we ain't so "po" that we can't afford to pay a radio crew part time 11 saturdays a year. i mean, c'mon! our head football coach makes nearly a quarter of a million dollars a year for crying out loud. yet, we can't afford to pay a radio crew "part time" 11 times a year?
if we can't, then it comes down to a matter of mismanagement, in my opinion. i mean, we ain't talkin' bout breaking the bank here...
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Post by bluehaze on Nov 1, 2011 20:15:09 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure for a quality program it would be more extensive than part time for 11 Saturdays. They would need to have access to the players and coaches throughout the week, attend the press conferences and watch practices. If not, we would still be hearing alot of Kindle Lewis and Rickey Kindle references throughout the broadcast.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 1, 2011 20:43:19 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure for a quality program it would be more extensive than part time for 11 Saturdays. They would need to have access to the players and coaches throughout the week, attend the press conferences and watch practices. If not, we would still be hearing alot of Kindle Lewis and Rickey Kindle references throughout the broadcast. you're probably right about that, but that still shouldn't deter us from being able to afford to hire a radio crew. but if we can't afford to hire a radio crew, then we don't belong in d1 athletics...
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Post by aggiebred09 on Nov 2, 2011 8:47:02 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure for a quality program it would be more extensive than part time for 11 Saturdays. They would need to have access to the players and coaches throughout the week, attend the press conferences and watch practices. If not, we would still be hearing alot of Kindle Lewis and Rickey Kindle references throughout the broadcast. you're probably right about that, but that still shouldn't deter us from being able to afford to hire a radio crew. but if we can't afford to hire a radio crew, then we don't belong in d1 athletics... Unless their pay would classify as an honorarium, which I probably couldn't, It seems a two man crew for football would warrant about $20k to $30k... Including salary, travel, insurance, benefits etc.... I think that is alot of money considering the small market the station caters to.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Nov 2, 2011 10:18:02 GMT -5
you're probably right about that, but that still shouldn't deter us from being able to afford to hire a radio crew. but if we can't afford to hire a radio crew, then we don't belong in d1 athletics... Unless their pay would classify as an honorarium, which I probably couldn't, It seems a two man crew for football would warrant about $20k to $30k... Including salary, travel, insurance, benefits etc.... I think that is alot of money considering the small market the station caters to. when you have a multi-million dollar football budget like we do, $20k or $30k is not a lot of money relatively speaking in my opinion. besides, it ain't like we have to go out and hire the likes of the "you're looking live" brent musburger types to call our games. i'm sure there's plenty of qualified amateur candidates out there who are better than our current crew that is willing to call our games for next to nothing just to get their foot in the door and pad their resume. yeah, they'd probably want travel, food, and lodging expenses covered, but that's only for half of our games. sure, our market isn't as big as unc's or nc state's. but when we win, our market is as big as any hbcu market in the country. schools like bcu and famu not only have a radio crew, but they also produce and televise their own weekly tv coach's show. to me, there's absolutely no reason we shouldn't be able to afford what our other hbcu peers can afford. to me, being able to afford a radio crew is a non-issue. as far as i'm personally concerned, we can easily afford it. we just need administrators who are "competent" and know how to financially manage an hbcu d1 athletic program...
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Post by aggiejazz on Nov 2, 2011 10:54:57 GMT -5
Oleschoolaggie, you just don't know how tight a budget the athletic department has. When you have cash flow problems and criticle needs everywhere, spending on two game announcers is way down the list.
You can't just use student(s) as announcers either because that add to the cost; transportation, lodging, food and insurance. My understanding is that the current announcers are doing this all on their own dime. I know it is difficult to listen and understand the broadcast. I hear "Mayhew takes the handoff...........and he's down" then when I hear where the next play is being lined up on the field, and I find out Mayhew has run for 20 yards. No discription of the 20-yd run but that's life in Aggieland.
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Post by Bigboy on Nov 2, 2011 13:29:56 GMT -5
And it's been that way since "Hector" was puppy ;D!!
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Post by marchingband1969 on Nov 2, 2011 14:38:48 GMT -5
Oleschoolaggie, you just don't know how tight a budget the athletic department has. When you have cash flow problems and criticle needs everywhere, spending on two game announcers is way down the list. You can't just use student(s) as announcers either because that add to the cost; transportation, lodging, food and insurance. My understanding is that the current announcers are doing this all on their own dime. I know it is difficult to listen and understand the broadcast. I hear " Mayhew takes the handoff...........and he's down" then when I hear where the next play is being from on the field, I find out Mayhew has run for 20 yards. No discription of the 20-yd run but that's life in Aggieland. I know money is tight but I beleive these guys are costing us money. The purpose of broadcasting the games in the first place is to inspire our fans so hopefully, they will eventually want to come to games. It's advertising our product (A&T football). These guys actually turn off our fans and I believe they are hurting the program. How many products with crappy advertising do you rush out and buy? Zero! We have a radio station that broadcast music several hours each day 24/7 and you're telling me we can find somebody that can speak the "king's english" and understands football to call our games? I know the football program is in bad shape when we make a concious decision that it's better to keep these guys for "free" that to try to get someone to replace them.
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Post by aggierattler on Nov 3, 2011 8:33:48 GMT -5
you're probably right about that, but that still shouldn't deter us from being able to afford to hire a radio crew. but if we can't afford to hire a radio crew, then we don't belong in d1 athletics... Unless their pay would classify as an honorarium, which I probably couldn't, It seems a two man crew for football would warrant about $20k to $30k... Including salary, travel, insurance, benefits etc.... I think that is alot of money considering the small market the station caters to. Noooooo!! These are PART-TIME positions, guys. Most FCS schools are paying their radio talent about $8,000-to-$12,000 a season with travel insurance and free meals and lodging...and most of those contracts include basketball games.
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