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Post by Bigboy on Oct 26, 2011 9:42:06 GMT -5
Back when we played games at Memorial Stadium our fans were a lot more enthusiastic than they are now. I don't know what the problem is now, but there are still fans that get hyped during the games. I am willing to bet that the majority of those hyped fans are member of the BDF.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Oct 26, 2011 9:56:50 GMT -5
i dunno. i think our crowd responds loudly when the situation calls for us to be loud. i'll give you an example. now, i wasn't at the bcu game in aggie stadium, but i listened to it over the internet and i could clearly hear the aggie crowd being very loud on bcu 3rd down conversions. and at homecoming this year, we weren't loud for the entire game. but when the announcer said over the pa, "can i get an aggie pride!", i've "NEVER" heard a louder "aggie pride" shouted in unison from our fans before.
howard's fans stormed the field because the game was in jeopardy until the very last play of the game, it was their homecoming, they knocked off the meac's undefeated 1st place team, they hadn't beat us in 3 years, and unlike aggie stadium, there's basically no barriers to stop folk from running on the field...
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Post by Freeze on Oct 26, 2011 11:25:19 GMT -5
The same reason we dont cheer unless the game is on the line is the same reason some people have a problem with the GAME ZONE. A really large portion of the crowd is just not there to see football. I knew someone would get what I was really trying to get folks to think about. The culture of black college football is so different from other brands that it seems almost impossible to think that folks who don't give a damn about the game or what's going on in the stadium would actually subscribe to the concept of paying to have access to the stadium. Changing that culture is such a Herculean task that it seems highly unlikely that you could convince black folk in mass, that what is most important is the actual game. They are there for everything BUT the game. It is literally a simple situation of the minority enforcing their will on the majority. That usually doesn't bode well in world history. It will take a complete transformation of a Black college football culture that has dominated for decades to get folks to buy in to the game zone. You are better off pursuing funding streams that Dooms and others on this board have suggested as opposed to forcing people who don't give a damn about the game to contribute for access.
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 26, 2011 11:57:48 GMT -5
Actually, I think the folks are more willing to pay for access to the other stuff than we've given them credit for.
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Post by DECKS on Oct 26, 2011 11:59:52 GMT -5
I don't think we can change the culture of what people come to the game to watch either. What we can change is the behavior of people sitting outside the stadium without contributing a dime. Either they can pay for the priviledge to tailgate or go elsewhere. The population who come simply to watch the band and/or socialize inside the stadium should remain unaffected. When Hilton unveiled the Game Zone concept he said it was purely to drive revenue. I don't recall him saying anything about it delivering increased attendance.
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Post by The Professor on Oct 26, 2011 12:13:06 GMT -5
Actually, I think the folks are more willing to pay for access to the other stuff than we've given them credit for. That's true. Just make it logical and show people where the money is going
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Post by The Professor on Oct 26, 2011 12:14:05 GMT -5
I don't think we can change the culture of what people come to the game to watch either. What we can change is the behavior of people sitting outside the stadium without contributing a dime. Either they can pay for the priviledge to tailgate or go elsewhere. The population who come simply to watch the band and/or socialize inside the stadium should remain unaffected. When Hilton unveiled the Game Zone concept he said it was purely to drive revenue. I don't recall him saying anything about it delivering increased attendance. Why wouldn't increased attendance or at least maintaining the level of attendance we have
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Post by saabman on Oct 26, 2011 12:49:19 GMT -5
I think Concept will take hold over time if we continue to stay the course. If we strap the Game Zone concept you will never Be able to change the ingrained culture of what people come to the game for either. If your going to just Tailgate then yes you should pay some type of fee to do so. I don't see the big deal. It's not like your paying 200$ like the tailgaters do here for each game.
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Post by aggierattler on Oct 26, 2011 12:55:46 GMT -5
I think Concept will take hold over time if we continue to stay the course. If we strap the Game Zone concept you will never Be able to change the ingrained culture of what people come to the game for either. If your going to just Tailgate then yes you should pay some type of fee to do so. I don't see the big deal. It's not like your paying 200$ like the tailgaters do here for each game. Agree 100%!!!
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Oct 26, 2011 15:59:24 GMT -5
I think Concept will take hold over time if we continue to stay the course. If we strap the Game Zone concept you will never Be able to change the ingrained culture of what people come to the game for either. If your going to just Tailgate then yes you should pay some type of fee to do so. I don't see the big deal. It's not like your paying 200$ like the tailgaters do here for each game. the big deal is that these people aren't true "tailgaters". meaning, they aren't the ones who setup camp, fire up a grill and tent, and park themselves in the game zone permanently while the game is going on. these folks are basically on foot, loitering around the stadium, probably muching on someone else's food and drinks. i'd agree that they partake in someone else's tailgating if they can, but its not like they setup their own spot with all the works...
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Post by Aggie Monster on Oct 26, 2011 17:32:17 GMT -5
I know PLENTY of people that all they do is partake in tailgating EVERY single game and almost NEVER go in. That's just what they do. Some have season tickets and some dont. I'm not trying get on the Game Zone topic again, i was just stating that our culture has been the same for as long as I can remember and their is NO HBCU where the majority of the fans are all about football. The best football crowd I seen for an A&T game was the Wofford playoff game. Everyone there was a "football fan".
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Post by aggie2039 on Oct 26, 2011 17:40:09 GMT -5
Additionally, I think stadiums that are made of concrete amplify the noise better than those made out of metal or aluminum. Metal/aluminum stadiums seem to absorb the noise we make in the stands. Just a personal observation.
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Post by DECKS on Oct 26, 2011 18:47:28 GMT -5
I know PLENTY of people that all they do is partake in tailgating EVERY single game and almost NEVER go in. That's just what they do. Some have season tickets and some dont. I'm not trying get on the Game Zone topic again, i was just stating that our culture has been the same for as long as I can remember and their is NO HBCU where the majority of the fans are all about football. The best football crowd I seen for an A&T game was the Wofford playoff game. Everyone there was a "football fan". The fans who travel to away games are the real football fans.
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Post by saabman on Oct 26, 2011 19:15:26 GMT -5
The stadiums acoustics is determined by the shape most horseshoe stadiums are not as loud as inclosed stadiums because they have no sound reinforcement by not being closed in so that the sound can be calculated . Change takes time and time changes things.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Oct 26, 2011 19:29:47 GMT -5
I think you're missing the fact that we could take all those people who are chilling for free, charge them five bucks to come into the game zone, and make money. Hey, for those folks that have been chilling out at Aggie Stadium for free all these years, they will still complain about paying five bucks. So here's the deal, you can buy a ticket, get inside with the paying patrons, chill out and tailgate or you can take your broke non-paying self over to the city park and hang out for free. People, you folks have spent days complaining about paying $35 to hangout on a college campus. How about spending some of your time figuring out how A&T can raise some serious money for it's football program or how we can recruit some better players. Stop whinning about paying a few bucks and do something positive for your dear A&T! If paying for a ticket runs some of those free-loading tailgaters off, so be it. People that really support A&T are not going to stop coming because they have to buy a damn game tickets.
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