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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jun 2, 2011 12:37:16 GMT -5
osa, Demeaning Broadway? So anyone who's against this game is demeaning Broadway or looks at him in a negative light.......you're reaching. We can agree to disagree with the relevance of the game - but let's not go off on a tangent.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 2, 2011 13:19:13 GMT -5
come on, superstar. i'm trying to be as tactful and as diplomatic as i possibly can. show me "anywhere" on any message board where i stated that "anyone who's against this game is demeaning broadway". i didn't state that at all, those are your words, not mine.
my "exact" words were, "to me, to state that playing vul is a waste of time, is the same as demeaning coach broadway." big difference! so yes, in my opinion, anyone who states that this game is "a waste of time" is also demeaning coach broadway. because unless broadway was "forced" to play this game by someone else (which i doubt), my assumption is that he approves playing this game. and i don't think he would approve the game if he thought it'll be a waste of his team's time. that's my point.
and to the best of my knowledge, you're the only one who stated that its "a waste of time" to play vul. being against the game versus stating the game is a "waste of time" are two entirely different things. so please don't try to put words in my mouth...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2011 13:29:49 GMT -5
Personally, I would have looked to schedule a game on 9/17 with St. Aug or scheduled the game with Tenn. Tech and moved the B-CU game after the fallout from St. Paul's. The Season Ticket thing is a challenge to overcome but I would have worked with them to accommodate them in the 9/17 home opener in the seats they purchased. But it is what it is and we do not know why this game was booked and why we couldn't come up with a deal to bring JCSU or another school here on the 9/3 date. so basically you're comfortable coming off of a 1-10 season with a big hole in your d-line, traveling to app state with a brand new coaching staff who has never been to battle with their team before? whereas, app state plays va. tech while we're home watching tv and they're a 3 time fcs champion whose coaching staff has been together for over 20 years. talk about running into a buzz saw... Short answer, yes! And not to get too off topic, App. State is moving to the 34 Defense and lost a good bit of talent on both sides of the ball. App State may still be a playoff team but the our game with them will be much closer then the experts believe. Either way, I have to agree with Decks IF the contract is signed by us. It is not our fault St. Paul's dropped Athletics and this is a weird year for scheduling for some reason or another. The fact that the game may not count towards our 2011 record is a BIG red flag. And possibly scheduling St. Aug, if they are still available, would also help bring in people to the home opener especially if it is marketed properly.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jun 2, 2011 13:34:32 GMT -5
"thats ridiculous, I wouldn't just put my feet on somebody's couch...............Yeah, I remember putting my feet on Eddies couch", LOL
Sorry OSA, i couldn't help it, but boy you are hilarious!
Anyway, I'm not against this game because of the timing(we barely got a choice), but it is a waste of a week. Although, its only a waste of a week if they suck as bad as everyone thinks they will AND we are even able to blow them out like some think.
The ironic part is that the game itself is a contradiction. If this team puts up no fight what so ever and we get TD after TD then then we are better than we thought and got nothing from playing it. We'll have to look at App as our first game cause we "really" aint had a game.
On the other hand, say the final is 28-7 Aggies. We REALLY need some work and the coach just learned a lot about his team and can possibly adjust some stuff so the App lose isn't a total blowout.
So damned if we do, damned if we dont. I'll probably be there regardless.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jun 2, 2011 13:53:39 GMT -5
and to me, to state that playing vul is a waste of time, is the same as demeaning coach broadway. i mean, broadway went undefeated at nccu and won championships at nccu as well as grambling. yet, you don't think broadway is a better judge of time wasted for his team than a bdv poster? do you think broadway is too dumb to know when his team is wasting time? This is what you stated. I feel playing vul is a waste of time. Me saying that is not equivalent to demeaning Broadway. I'm only responding to what you typed
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 2, 2011 14:17:10 GMT -5
"thats ridiculous, I wouldn't just put my feet on somebody's couch...............Yeah, I remember putting my feet on Eddies couch", LOL Sorry OSA, i couldn't help it, but boy you are hilarious! Anyway, I'm not against this game because of the timing(we barely got a choice), but it is a waste of a week. Although, its only a waste of a week if they suck as bad as everyone thinks they will AND we are even able to blow them out like some think. The ironic part is that the game itself is a contradiction. If this team puts up no fight what so ever and we get TD after TD then then we are better than we thought and got nothing from playing it. We'll have to look at App as our first game cause we "really" aint had a game. On the other hand, say the final is 28-7 Aggies. We REALLY need some work and the coach just learned a lot about his team and can possibly adjust some stuff so the App lose isn't a total blowout. So damned if we do, damned if we dont. I'll probably be there regardless. so i guess like superstar, you too think broadway is too dumb to realize whether his team is wasting its time or not? why do you suppose broadway is apparently willing to play this game? you think its his plan to waste a week as you say? or do you think he's just not as smart as bdv posters and simply doesn't realize its a waste of his team's time? if broadway says play the game, do you not respect his judgement as a head coach that's its worth his team's time? like i stated previously, if he can't find a better opponent for 9/3, then i have no problem playing vul. some posters don't think its important to dry run your new team (who is executing a new system) against a foreign opponent. some folk don't think we need a tuneup before playing a team who's coaching staff has been stable for the last 21 years and none of their players have to learn a new system. and by the way, app state has a full allotment of scholarships (we don't), no ncaa sanctions on its practice time (we do), is preseason ranked in the top 3 (we're not ranked, period), has won 3 fcs championships (we've won zero), signed a 2011 recruiting class (we didn't), is playing us on their home turf, need i say more? yet, some folk think we're better off not playing anybody prior to going to the mountains. i think if you were to ask any coach on broadway's staff if they'd be better off not playing anybody at all on 9/3, versus playing vul, i think they'd all say they'd be better off playing vul...
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jun 2, 2011 14:22:07 GMT -5
OSA, did you even read my post? I think its a waste of time ONLY if VUL lays down. Which they could do! If we need a lot of work and cant blow these guys out then it wasn't a waste of time. I dont think it can be determined if the game is a waste of time until after its been played because of the current state of our program. The "I think its a waste of a week" comes from my strong opinion(based on history) that they WILL lay down.
I'm not Broadway, so I dont know before hand if we would smash these guys or not. I'm not Hilton, so i dont know if this game is being forced on Broadway or not. You brought broadway into the discussion, we didn't.
Stop trying to be so analytical of people's post.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 2, 2011 14:31:09 GMT -5
and to me, to state that playing vul is a waste of time, is the same as demeaning coach broadway. i mean, broadway went undefeated at nccu and won championships at nccu as well as grambling. yet, you don't think broadway is a better judge of time wasted for his team than a bdv poster? do you think broadway is too dumb to know when his team is wasting time? This is what you stated. I feel playing vul is a waste of time. Me saying that is not equivalent to demeaning Broadway. I'm only responding to what you typed so in other words, you're saying broadway is against playing this game and is being forced to play it. correct?
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jun 2, 2011 14:36:34 GMT -5
Please stop implying that I think Broadway is too dumb to recognize the significance (or lack thereof) of playing this game. The way you communicate is so piss-poor. I've had disagreements with people on this and other boards before. As I've stated before, I have no problems with anyone disagreeing with anything I say - he/she has a right to.
....but to go off on a tangent and imply that me disagreeing with the merits of this game is equivalent to considering Broadway dumb for scheduling it is absurd.
....you simply don't come off right with what you type OSA. If anything - I one of Broadway's hugest fans - his track record speaks for itself.
No one on this site is insinuating Broadway is too dumb....or even dumb at all. You're spewing this garbage on your own to maliciously slant the argument to your favor. You have a pattern of doing this, and as I've told you before - IT AIN'T A GOOD LOOK.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 2, 2011 14:46:26 GMT -5
OSA, did you even read my post? I think its a waste of time ONLY if VUL lays down. Which they could do! If we need a lot of work and cant blow these guys out then it wasn't a waste of time. I dont think it can be determined if the game is a waste of time until after its been played because of the current state of our program. The "I think its a waste of a week" comes from my strong opinion(based on history) that they WILL lay down. I'm not Broadway, so I dont know before hand if we would smash these guys or not. I'm not Hilton, so i dont know if this game is being forced on Broadway or not. You brought broadway into the discussion, we didn't. Stop trying to be so analytical of people's post. even if they lay down (which i seriously doubt), i still don't think it would be a waste of time. i mean, do you really think vul will be afraid to play a team coming off of a 1-10 season? why would they lay down? because we're such a powerhouse? who knows what vul will do, but i don't think it'll be a waste of time even if we blow them out. if i were coach, the main thing i'd be looking for in this game is whether my guys execute their assignments. whether my guys carry out their blocking assignments, run the routes they're suppose to, and my qb's make the proper reads. you don't have to play stiff competition to determine those things. the coaches can break down video and show our guys their mistakes. we'll again have to agree to disagree. i don't see it as a waste of time. again i ask, had you rather we don't play anyone on 9/3? and i'll ignore your "analytical" statement...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 2, 2011 14:55:06 GMT -5
Please stop implying that I think Broadway is too dumb to recognize the significance (or lack thereof) of playing this game. The way you communicate is so piss-poor. I've had disagreements with people on this and other boards before. As I've stated before, I have no problems with anyone disagreeing with anything I say - he/she has a right to. ....but to go off on a tangent and imply that me disagreeing with the merits of this game is equivalent to considering Broadway dumb for scheduling it is absurd. ....you simply don't come off right with what you type OSA. If anything - I one of Broadway's hugest fans - his track record speaks for itself. No one on this site is insinuating Broadway is too dumb....or even dumb at all. You're spewing this garbage on your own to maliciously slant the argument to your favor. You have a pattern of doing this, and as I've told you before - IT AIN'T A GOOD LOOK. all i did was ask you one simple question. i didn't call you "piss poor" nor "garbage". i didn't disrespect you in any way. i'm really beginning to believe you might have emotional issues. i mean, i only asked you if you thought broadway was being forced to play the game, and you went completely off! your fuse is way too short, dude. please disregard any of my posts directed to you...
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jun 2, 2011 15:41:44 GMT -5
osa, I didn't call you piss-poor ---- your COMMUNICATION is. I didn't call you garbage ---- I called what you're insinuating garbage.
No one on this site remotely thinks Broadway is a dumb man for scheduling this game. I understand why he's trying to schedule a game....I just don't think the game is a worthwhile one. Why you feel the need to say anyone thinks he's dumb for scheduling Lynchburg is beyond me. That is poor use of words, poor taste, and frankly INACCURATE.....
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jun 2, 2011 15:57:26 GMT -5
we'll again have to agree to disagree. i don't see it as a waste of time. again i ask, had you rather we don't play anyone on 9/3? and i'll ignore your "analytical" statement... Would I rather us play VUL or No one? The answer is VUL. Would I rather us play VUL or someone else? The answer is someone else, but I understand the situation that we might not have a choice due to St Paul drop out, etc Do I think Broadway is stupid? No Do I think this game is a waste? I think it WILL be(key words are "think" and "will"). You can(and will) find out you're over matched after 1 quarter of play and lay down. If they lay down our staff wont learn jack from this game in my opinion. If they give us a game then its all good. I'll be able to tell from watching the game if its us that were bad or them just better than we thought they would be.
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Post by aggiejazz on Jun 2, 2011 16:13:20 GMT -5
I have read a lot of posts that talks about it wasn't A&T's fault about this and it wasn't A&T's fault about that.
We all have been around a "poor soul" that always seems to have things go wrong against him or her. Things go wrong even when you think that person has all the where-with-all to have some success.
Well, A&T isn't supposed to be that poor soul. The people running things all have advanced degrees, have worked at other colleges and universities, have experience as a professional in their career. Blaming previous position holders don't cut it when mistakes are still being made.
Yet, all the "Old Schoolers" want to do, is give excuses why A&T can't get a damn game when there are a number of other colleges that needed a game and the best A&T could come up with are two very small, very poor, church-supported colleges that shouldn't be in the football business in the first place. And as of now, VUL isn't exactly in the football business because they have no team other than a few guys' names on a piece of paper, if they have it.
I want someone, anyone to show Blue Death Valley readers proof other than a website with a future schedule, that VUL has a football team.
I warn ya, that those football game pictures on VUL website are of other schools.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 2, 2011 16:55:09 GMT -5
we'll again have to agree to disagree. i don't see it as a waste of time. again i ask, had you rather we don't play anyone on 9/3? and i'll ignore your "analytical" statement... Would I rather us play VUL or No one? The answer is VUL. Would I rather us play VUL or someone else? The answer is someone else, but I understand the situation that we might not have a choice due to St Paul drop out, etc Do I think Broadway is stupid? No Do I think this game is a waste? I think it WILL be(key words are "think" and "will"). You can(and will) find out you're over matched after 1 quarter of play and lay down. If they lay down our staff wont learn jack from this game in my opinion. If they give us a game then its all good. I'll be able to tell from watching the game if its us that were bad or them just better than we thought they would be. monster, i agree with all of that, except the part about its still a waste if they lay down. if they lay down, the only thing we won't know is how physically talented our guys really are. but even if vul lays down, that doesn't mean we can't carry out our assignments. vul may not put up a lot of resistance, but we'll still have assignments to execute. its just that the physical aspect of execution will not be as challenging as we'd like. but guys still need to know where they're suppose to be on every play and what they're suppose to do when they get there. that's what i'd be looking at if i were a coach. does our guys know what they're doing and do they know what to execute both offensively and defensively. if vul lays down, we may not learn if our guys can execute against equal or better competition, but we'll learn if they know "what" and "how" to execute. but i know what you're trying to say. i think you're trying to say if vul lays down, we won't learn very much regarding the physical aspect of our team and i agree with that. but we still could learn a lot regarding the mental aspect of our team, even if vul lays down. for example, if we call a screen play, but our o-line run blocks, we'll know they don't know "what" or "how" to execute that screen play...
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