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Post by aggie2ru on May 31, 2011 14:56:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 15:00:04 GMT -5
Nothing has been confirmed. The only thing that is certain is that A&T and VUL are in talks for a game. As of now, no game contract has been approved. For all we know, this game will not happen.
AggieJazz revealed to the message board a NCAA bylaw that may mean a game with VUL will not count towards the 2011 win-loss record. By no means is this saga finished.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 31, 2011 16:24:57 GMT -5
me personally, i'd have a whole lot easier time paying the full price of a ticket to see us play vul than i would paying the full price of a ticket solely to tailgate...
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Post by JeffAggieFan on Jun 1, 2011 14:00:46 GMT -5
Well NCCU and WSSU are on the road so A&T will get a nice share of the triad and trignagle crowd. I think this a perfect time to have a family night deal or something. I wonder if you can put Dudley against Hillside as the undercard
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Post by ohsixrain on Jun 1, 2011 14:58:24 GMT -5
Hillside is already committed to playing an out of state game in South Carolina that Friday.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jun 1, 2011 18:11:00 GMT -5
Dudley vs Hillside Virginia-Lynchburg vs A&T Putting a game that makes a helluva lot of sense with one that makes no damn sense at all.... That's funny to me!!!!
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Post by aggiebred09 on Jun 2, 2011 7:52:37 GMT -5
Lets spare the kids from the rapture. Don't make a dime off the "chirren" cause the adults cant get it together.
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Post by DECKS on Jun 2, 2011 8:44:24 GMT -5
Lol, we've been warned not to look back so I might have to skip this one!
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Post by aggie2ru on Jun 2, 2011 8:56:15 GMT -5
Yall is so crazy, yall so crazy, yall soooooooo crazy!!!!!! Think there will be 3,000-4,000 for da scrimmage (eh-game) ?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 2, 2011 9:31:29 GMT -5
i'm just curious. to all of the vul naysayers, given our situation, what would you have done about our season opener? we've got a brand new coaching staff, we did not sign an official 2011 recruiting class, we're in dire need of help on the d-line, we're coming off of a 1-10 season, we do not have a full allotment of scholarships, very few schools are available for a 9/3 contest, and we play the best known and perhaps the strongest fcs program in the country "on the road" on 9/17.
also bare in mind that our brand new coaches barely know their players and have never gone to battle with them before. we've got a new coaching staff that's never gone to battle together with each other. we've got players who must execute brand new schemes and terminology they've probably never used before and many must fulfill brand new roles/positions.
if vul had been on our schedule a year or more in advance, then i'd have a problem with that. but that's not the case at all. here it was "in the middle of may" and we find out st. paul's is shutting it down. how easy do folk think it is to schedule a 9/3/11 football game when your search begins in mid may, if not later? we're talkin' about finding an opponent for a game thats only 3 months away from kickoff!
i'm not trying to be confrontational, but seriously, how ideal of an opponent did folk expect us to find only 3 months away from kickoff? or should we not play a 9/3 game at all and instead open our season at app state despite all of our disadvantages?
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jun 2, 2011 9:52:57 GMT -5
VUL is a waste of a week. I understand what you're saying OSA, but VUL is just too weak of a barometer to measure absolutely anything we will do over the season. I don't buy into morale, coaches getting acclimated to players, etc.........when it comes to this game. The opposition is simply too weak and inferior to draw any conclusions about what player needs to do what or what coaches need to do what.
If A&T wants to play the game - fine. However, App St. will be up in Blacksburg the same day playing Va Tech. They are going up to Va Tech with the intentions of beating the Hokies. I really believe App St will throw the kitchen sink at Va Tech - they beat Michigan a few years ago. They saw James Madison beat Va Tech last year.
APP ST WILL NOT LEAVE ANYTHING BACK AT BOONE WHEN THEY TRAVEL TO BLACKSBURG.....with that in mind, Broadway and his staff can get a good gauge of what App St likes to do in real game time play.....and prepare accordingly.
Playing a worthless game vs VUL or being able to see your next legitimate opponent play firsthand.......I'd vote for the latter. Although people may say we can get footage of the game and study it for the week, there is something to seeing a game firsthand to get a general vibe of what a team likes to do in certain situations.
On the day of September 3rd ---- I'd vote to have the whole coaching staff go to Blacksburg and observe what App St likes to do......they won't be holding back anything in preparation for us the following week....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2011 10:46:47 GMT -5
i'm just curious. to all of the vul naysayers, given our situation, what would you have done about our season opener? we've got a brand new coaching staff, we did not sign an official 2011 recruiting class, we're in dire need of help on the d-line, we're coming off of a 1-10 season, we do not have a full allotment of scholarships, very few schools are available for a 9/3 contest, and we play the best known and perhaps the strongest fcs program in the country "on the road" on 9/17. also bare in mind that our brand new coaches barely know their players and have never gone to battle with them before. we've got a new coaching staff that's never gone to battle together with each other. we've got players who must execute brand new schemes and terminology they've probably never used before and many must fulfill brand new roles/positions. if vul had been on our schedule a year or more in advance, then i'd have a problem with that. but that's not the case at all. here it was "in the middle of may" and we find out st. paul's is shutting it down. how easy do folk think it is to schedule a 9/3/11 football game when your search begins in mid may, if not later? we're talkin' about finding an opponent for a game thats only 3 months away from kickoff! i'm not trying to be confrontational, but seriously, how ideal of an opponent did folk expect us to find only 3 months away from kickoff? or should we not play a 9/3 game at all and instead open our season at app state despite all of our disadvantages? Personally, I would have looked to schedule a game on 9/17 with St. Aug or scheduled the game with Tenn. Tech and moved the B-CU game after the fallout from St. Paul's. The Season Ticket thing is a challenge to overcome but I would have worked with them to accommodate them in the 9/17 home opener in the seats they purchased. But it is what it is and we do not know why this game was booked and why we couldn't come up with a deal to bring JCSU or another school here on the 9/3 date.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 2, 2011 11:04:11 GMT -5
VUL is a waste of a week. I understand what you're saying OSA, but VUL is just too weak of a barometer to measure absolutely anything we will do over the season. I don't buy into morale, coaches getting acclimated to players, etc.........when it comes to this game. The opposition is simply too weak and inferior to draw any conclusions about what player needs to do what or what coaches need to do what. If A&T wants to play the game - fine. However, App St. will be up in Blacksburg the same day playing Va Tech. They are going up to Va Tech with the intentions of beating the Hokies. I really believe App St will throw the kitchen sink at Va Tech - they beat Michigan a few years ago. They saw James Madison beat Va Tech last year. APP ST WILL NOT LEAVE ANYTHING BACK AT BOONE WHEN THEY TRAVEL TO BLACKSBURG.....with that in mind, Broadway and his staff can get a good gauge of what App St likes to do in real game time play.....and prepare accordingly. Playing a worthless game vs VUL or being able to see your next legitimate opponent play firsthand.......I'd vote for the latter. Although people may say we can get footage of the game and study it for the week, there is something to seeing a game firsthand to get a general vibe of what a team likes to do in certain situations. On the day of September 3rd ---- I'd vote to have the whole coaching staff go to Blacksburg and observe what App St likes to do......they won't be holding back anything in preparation for us the following week.... i couldn't disagree more, though i respect your opinion. do you think there's any value that comes from "intra-squad" scrimmages? of course there is. but often times you have your starters going against a scout team primarily made up 2nd and 3rd stringers (inferior competition). however, your teammates have been taught the same things you've been taught. so when you have intra-squad scrimmages, you do not get a true sense of execution because the guys on the other side of the line know the same plays you know and have been taught the same things you've been taught. even if your opponent is inferior, its beneficial to run your stuff against opponents who are not familiar with what you run, who have not been taught the same things you've been taught. its not so much how much of a physical challenge the opponent is, its more about how your team "executes" their assignments. you can't always execute as well when the guys across from you know what you've been taught and has an idea of what you're running. so to playing vul isn't intended for the physical challenge. its to have your team execute against an opponent who is foreign to the stuff you run. the benefits of playing vul far outweigh the benefits of an "intra-squad" scrimmage. and regarding coaches witnessing app state playing live, versus watching them on video? there is no true advantage to watching an opponent live versus watching them on video. actually, when i'm scouting a team, i'd much rather scout them on video than watching them live because on video i can see them close up, freeze action, do replays, slow motion, etc. its waaaaaay much easier to scout an opponent on video than watching them live, especially if you're watching live from a distance. and to me, to state that playing vul is a waste of time, is the same as demeaning coach broadway. i mean, broadway went undefeated at nccu and won championships at nccu as well as grambling. yet, you don't think broadway is a better judge of time wasted for his team than a bdv poster? do you think broadway is too dumb to know when his team is wasting time? and due to our apr, you do realize that the ncaa has "reduced" the amount of time our team can practice don't you? and you do realize that playing vul will not count against the amount of time we practice, right? i dunno, but it seems kinda smart to me to basically have a free practice against a foreign opponent without it counting as practice time...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 2, 2011 11:16:09 GMT -5
Personally, I would have looked to schedule a game on 9/17 with St. Aug or scheduled the game with Tenn. Tech and moved the B-CU game after the fallout from St. Paul's. The Season Ticket thing is a challenge to overcome but I would have worked with them to accommodate them in the 9/17 home opener in the seats they purchased. But it is what it is and we do not know why this game was booked and why we couldn't come up with a deal to bring JCSU or another school here on the 9/3 date. so basically you're comfortable coming off of a 1-10 season with a big hole in your d-line, traveling to app state with a brand new coaching staff who has never been to battle with their team before? whereas, app state plays va. tech while we're home watching tv and they're a 3 time fcs champion whose coaching staff has been together for over 20 years. talk about running into a buzz saw...
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Post by DECKS on Jun 2, 2011 11:33:06 GMT -5
The one thing that worries me most is that we may be lining up against a high school team in VUL. Either that or they may suit up a team full of major D-I droputs which is possible since they don't have a governing body controlling their recruiting. Either way this is a game we shouldn't be scheduling.
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