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Post by ohsixrain on Jun 8, 2011 9:34:20 GMT -5
Dooms...you offer no solution though! What's the solution? WSSU is out...get it out your mind! Now what?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 9:34:47 GMT -5
"We" = Us Aggie Alums as a whole. Collectively, we complain alot. Most of it is warranted but we do so none the less.
But I digress...
I don't know why in the world the MEAC front office would send us on the road for 4 straight weeks in the first place.
To get them to flip-flop the schedules and have the teams agree with it is not the easiest thing to do. There was a similar episode like this back when Del. State dropped us for a game against Michigan.
This probably one of the main reasons why we didn't schedule Tenn. Tech, which was more than willing to travel to Greensboro on 10/8 if we were able to move our game with B-CU on 9/17. And we can't forget that we sold Season Tickets which included a game on 9/3.
If I was in a decision making position in the A&T Athletic Dept., I would have pushed for the Tenn. Tech game after St. Paul's dropped the game. It wouldn't have been easy but it is what it is.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jun 8, 2011 9:45:14 GMT -5
I agree that the MEAC is on some bull $#$@! for this one. I hadn't really touched on it until now.
If you remove our non-conference games and look at just the MEAC schedule, how in the world do they give us 3 home games to 5 away games. Thats ridiculous! I know it plays in our favor for more home games next year, but who knows what our schedule will be next year with another team entering the MEAC.
And NO NIGHT GAMES either! Dayum. Can I at least get one 6pm start?
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Post by DOOMS on Jun 8, 2011 9:45:22 GMT -5
Dooms...you offer no solution though! What's the solution? WSSU is out...get it out your mind! Now what? Did you read my last post regarding placing a conference game there? It's the post right before you asked a moot question regarding Winston because, well, it's a moot question. I had already posted an alternative. I saw no need to respond further. Westcoast, while not easy, in my opinion working through the conference to change the schedule would be much more worthwhile than crossing our fingers and hoping this non-team will be in place in time to show up Labor Day. Don't you agree? It would help to rectify what will eventually be a bad schedule every other year (as Monster points out), with us having back-to-back away games in Florida or Virginia. Or we could hope that VUL is open to come on by every year. I figure we didn't schedule Tenn. Tech because a certain individual didn't want to play them, period. The scheduling of VUL and St. Paul's follows the schedules that Grambling and Central have had in the recent past. I guess if it works for him, it works for me, but if we're going to play this type of game and complain about finances, then we need to follow Winston on back to the CIAA.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 10:00:08 GMT -5
Dooms...you offer no solution though! What's the solution? WSSU is out...get it out your mind! Now what? Did you read my last post regarding placing a conference game there? It's the post right before you asked a moot question regarding Winston because, well, it's a moot question. I had already posted an alternative. I saw no need to respond further. Westcoast, while not easy, in my opinion working through the conference to change the schedule would be much more worthwhile than crossing our fingers and hoping this non-team will be in place in time to show up Labor Day. Don't you agree? It would help to rectify what will eventually be a bad schedule every other year (as Monster points out), with us having back-to-back away games in Florida or Virginia. Or we could hope that VUL is open to come on by every year. I figure we didn't schedule Tenn. Tech because a certain individual didn't want to play them, period. The scheduling of VUL and St. Paul's follows the schedules that Grambling and Central have had in the recent past. I guess if it works for him, it works for me, but if we're going to play this type of game and complain about finances, then we need to follow Winston on back to the CIAA. Sadly, I have just a little bit more faith in VUL actually fielding a team then seeing the MEAC adjust schedules so that we can get one of the 4 teams we play back to back on the road to travel to Aggie Stadium on 9/3. I just don't see them fixing things so that we will see either SCSU or FAMU in our house on 9/3.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 8, 2011 10:08:59 GMT -5
changing the conference schedule within a matter of weeks is very difficult to do as westcoast mentioned. in fact, its very difficult to do period, much less within 12 weeks.
it would have a scheduling ripple effect throughout the conference if that happened. several meac schools would have to agree to adjust their schedules and no one was willing to do that for del state. that's why del state was unable to resolve their scheduling conflict with michigan two seasons ago. i see no way of the meac agreeing to change our 2011 conference schedule, especially with only 12 weeks remaining before opening day...
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Post by DOOMS on Jun 8, 2011 10:39:39 GMT -5
Did you read my last post regarding placing a conference game there? It's the post right before you asked a moot question regarding Winston because, well, it's a moot question. I had already posted an alternative. I saw no need to respond further. Westcoast, while not easy, in my opinion working through the conference to change the schedule would be much more worthwhile than crossing our fingers and hoping this non-team will be in place in time to show up Labor Day. Don't you agree? It would help to rectify what will eventually be a bad schedule every other year (as Monster points out), with us having back-to-back away games in Florida or Virginia. Or we could hope that VUL is open to come on by every year. I figure we didn't schedule Tenn. Tech because a certain individual didn't want to play them, period. The scheduling of VUL and St. Paul's follows the schedules that Grambling and Central have had in the recent past. I guess if it works for him, it works for me, but if we're going to play this type of game and complain about finances, then we need to follow Winston on back to the CIAA. Sadly, I have just a little bit more faith in VUL actually fielding a team then seeing the MEAC adjust schedules so that we can get one of the 4 teams we play back to back on the road to travel to Aggie Stadium on 9/3. I just don't see them fixing things so that we will see either SCSU or FAMU in our house on 9/3. Shoot, I was thinking more along the lines of Norfolk or Howard. Starting off your career with SCSU or FAMU makes about as much sense as starting it off against New Hampshire. Even if unsuccessful (and we can only theorize on whether it would be or not) at least the ball is rolling towards rectifying the schedule in the future. At worst, you don't have to deal with it again and at best you kill both this year's scheduling problem and future scheduling problems with one stone. Or you let Broadway go through his startup program and weak sister rolodex and cherry-pick the worst opponent he can find (and there simply cannot be a worse school playing football in this country, that is, if they actually play).
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Post by ohsixrain on Jun 8, 2011 11:40:08 GMT -5
Dooms...come on now! The solution you suggest would cause more problems than creating a solution. Are you considering schools that schedule their travel in advance and that's the tip of the iceberg. Hell, let's be a little flexible here. Scheduling this team should be the least of our worries. It's bigger fish to fry than to belabor this point. I will say, we created our own issue by scheduling opponents late, which was due to hiring a football coach and dealing with our track team issues. Let's be real...yeah sure, if you listen long enough, WE ALL have the answers to our problems but, yet they aren't fixed. See where I'm going?
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Post by DOOMS on Jun 8, 2011 11:45:33 GMT -5
No.
I don't know what's done behind the scenes (and really don't care to anymore). I only know the end result, which in my opinion is poor. I also know that we continue to do the same types of things (fire people, hire new people, schedule late, underfund, overpay, etc.) that lead to the same results. Again, in my opinion the scheduling of this game and the St. Paul's game are poor results. This leads me to believe there is what in my opinion is poor work being done and poor decisions being made.
I don't have the answers, but my solutions don't involve insolvent and/or non-existent hbcu football teams.
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Post by pitbull on Jun 8, 2011 12:48:55 GMT -5
I know you all need a home game but I would have reached out to Elon and asked for a deal to at least get some of the gate and play them at Elon......They are right around the corner and it would be like a home game for you all...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 8, 2011 13:32:46 GMT -5
And NO NIGHT GAMES either! Dayum. Can I at least get one 6pm start? i'd be willing to bet we don't have any night games because we're pitching pennies and don't want to pay the cost of lighting...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jun 8, 2011 13:40:42 GMT -5
I know you all need a home game but I would have reached out to Elon and asked for a deal to at least get some of the gate and play them at Elon......They are right around the corner and it would be like a home game for you all... pitbull, i don't think there's any credible schools out there who have enough flexibility to change their schedule this late in the game. when ya start asking folk to "change" anything on their schedule in order to accommodate a&t 12 weeks prior to opening day, most schools will politely turn you down. its just a very tough predicament that has no easy answers...
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Post by ohsixrain on Jun 8, 2011 13:46:45 GMT -5
Okay, I see you will never be satisfied...and you don't have to be. I hope we beat the stuffin out of VUL until they want to lose the helmets and not want to play anymore. But why cry that they are on the schedule instead of UNC, Elon, NC State or Wake Forest. Waste of time, my opinion.
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Post by aggiejazz on Jun 8, 2011 16:30:48 GMT -5
Check out below how colleges that are serious about starting a varsity football team operate:
Publish date: Oct 19, 2010Misericordia adds football
Misericordia University's Athletic Director David Martin Misericordia University in Dallas, Pa., announced on Monday that it will add football as a varsity sport beginning with the 2012 season. The decision supports Misericordia’s recently approved strategic plan that calls for “thoughtful growth.”
Athletics Director David Martin said the decision represents “one of the most impactful changes in the history of our institution.” Football will become the 14th sport Misericordia has added since of joining Division III in 1992. The school offers a total of 23 varsity sports.
“In an ongoing effort to meet the demands of our student-athletes, our athletics program has grown in proportion to the university over the last two decades,” said Martin. “The addition of football will have a significant impact on our entire operation.” Martin said the university hopes to have a head coach in place by February to begin the recruiting process for 2012.
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The NCAA News George Fox is proceeding with plans to reinstate the football program that it discontinued four decades ago. The school announced it will again sponsor the sport beginning with the 2013 season. It had sponsored the sport from 1894 until dropping it primarily for financial reasons after the 1968 season.
The school indicated that it is making efforts to expand the number of sports it offers and percentage of students participating in intercollegiate athletics, in accordance with the Division III philosophy of offering opportunities for participation in a competitive athletics environment.
Last summer, George Fox announced plans to build a new sports complex and indicated at that time that the decision could lead to reinstatement of football. It also is exploring adding women’s lacrosse, and men’s and women’s swimming as varsity sports. George Fox is the second Northwest Conference member to recently reinstate the sport. Another member, Pacific (Oregon), will begin play this fall after dropping the sport in 1991.
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Post by aggiejazz on Jun 8, 2011 16:34:16 GMT -5
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