Opponent VA Univ of Lynchburg not a Countable Game

[DECKS]

Jun 6, 2011 20:08:22 GMT -5 aggiejazz said:

Now, it is official, the game is "on" and AD Hilton has asserted that the game will count in the NCAA record. I am still feel that both the game and the assertion are dubious.

The tried and true statement "you reap what you sow", will again be in evident in two years when VUL is facing bankruptcy and the end of their foolish attempt to become known through collegiate sports.

I am not going out on a limb on this one. We have seen it happen several times in Atlanta, GA with its HBCUs and recently in VA with St Paul. These colleges were a lot more established than VUL.

A&T won't escape this morality truth either. This game will led to further embarrassment of A&T's athletics and a greater apathy from the casual fan to not even bother to attend a football game on A&T's campus. Secondly, I fear that in two years, A&T will be facing its own financial difficulties because bad decision making will continue to be rule, steep into culture of Aggie athletics, as we see being executed now.

I dunno about all that other stuff you said but I agree that this game may never happen. Hopefully we aren't giving them anything upfront.

[aggiejazz]

Decks, A&T with Hilton leading the way, will do anything to ensure this game goes off, including spending more money so that VUL will get the things they need to field a football team for this Labor Day Weekend game.

A&T has even come up with a false profile for VUL in their public release. A VUL profile that doesn't even exist right now. A profile that VUL hopes to have in the future, if their athletic department last that long.

[DOOMS]

I halfway expect something like this to happen:

sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4429336

St. Paul's cancels game without helmetsEmail Print Comments Associated Press

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- No helmets. No pads. No game.

Two days before St. Paul's College was supposed to open the 2009 football season, the Tigers canceled Saturday's contest with West Virginia Wesleyan. The reason, West Virginia Wesleyan athletic director Ken Tyler said Friday, was a lack of equipment.

In an instant, the thrill and anticipation of finally playing fell flat.

"I'm flabbergasted and disappointed for our players," Tyler said. "They've been working really hard. They've been peaking and looking forward to kick off the season. It's a real punch in the gut. Beyond that, I feel it was very unprofessional. We would never, ever even consider doing that."

Tyler said St. Paul's AD Leroy Bacote called him with the news Thursday, less than 24 hours before the Wesleyan team was scheduled to travel 341 miles to play the game in South Hill, Va.

Division II St. Paul's had ordered helmets and pads -- but the shipment hadn't arrived yet.

"He couldn't guarantee that they would be there in time," said Tyler, adding that the game would not be rescheduled.

Tyler said he asked Bacote how the team practiced without helmets and pads and was told the players did calisthenics in shorts and T-shirts.

Bacote declined comment Friday when reached at his office.

St. Paul head coach William Bailey was out of his office and unavailable for comment. A recording said callers were unable to leave voice messages.

Tigers assistant coach Kevin Grisby referred questions to Bailey about the equipment issue, but Grisby did say that the team was trying to keep a businesslike approach. St. Paul's is set to play Sept. 5 at UNC-Pembroke.

"From a coaching standpoint, we're preparing our players just like any other day," Grisby said. "We've got to move our troops the best we can right now and that's what we're doing as coaches."

Tyler said the contract signed with St. Paul's includes an undisclosed financial penalty for canceling the game.

"We will be invoking that clause," Tyler said. "Since it was St. Paul's home game, it is their clause."

West Virginia Wesleyan also will seek reimbursement of any expenses. Tyler said the team was being charged for 40 hotel rooms that had been previously booked.

St. Paul's President Robert L. Satcher Sr. didn't immediately return a message left with a secretary.

St. Paul's is a member of the Central Intercollegiate Athletic Association. CIAA commissioner Leon Kerry didn't immediately return a telephone message.

Equipment isn't the only issue at St. Paul's, which has an enrollment of less than 1,000.

Bleachers are still being installed at the school's stadium in Lawrenceville, Va., so the West Virginia Wesleyan game was scheduled to be played at a high school in South Hill, about 20 minutes away from campus, said athletics spokeswoman Oralia Washington. St Paul's next home game, Sept. 12 against Webber International, is also scheduled to be played at the high school.

Washington also said she had to make a call halting the shipment of programs for Saturday's now-canceled game.

West Virginia Wesleyan, behind first-year head coach Denny Creehan, will turn its attention to what Tyler called its "new" opener next week at Urbana, Ohio.

"In my nearly 20 years of work in collegiate athletics, I have never experienced anything like this," Tyler said. "I know our coaches and players will make the best of this difficult situation."

But like Jazz typed, we will probably go out of our way to make sure VUL has whatever they need to show up (and not much more) on game day. I'm starting to buy some of the bad press Broadway's been getting from Grambling fans. Not all, but some.

[ohsixrain]

Why Dooms??? And secondly, who should we be playing?

[DOOMS]

Why what?

And we should be playing Winston or a conference game, period.

[ohsixrain]

You say you are buying into some of the bad press from the Grambling folks. I just wondered why?? IMO, they should be thanking the man...but you know "US (our folk)" will find something to complain about. So, I ask you why?

[DOOMS]

Just sit back and watch. I'm just noticing they haven't been so off base on a number of the comments I've read concerning scheduling, tact, demeanor, etc...

They can win with pretty much anybody so they can be much more particular than we can. We'll probably go to greater lengths to ignore things due to our situation. But I sincerely doubt we'd be playing this game (or St. Paul's) but for one person.

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Jun 8, 2011 8:25:52 GMT -5 DOOMS said:

Just sit back and watch. I'm just noticing they haven't been so off base on a number of the comments I've read concerning scheduling, tact, demeanor, etc...

They can win with pretty much anybody so they can be much more particular than we can. We'll probably go to greater lengths to ignore things due to our situation. But I sincerely doubt we'd be playing this game (or St. Paul's) but for one person.

We would be playing UNH on the road if Broadway agreed to that game.

And if that happened, we would be complaining about that too.

[oleschoolaggie]

Jun 8, 2011 8:31:53 GMT -5 westcoastaggie said:

Jun 8, 2011 8:25:52 GMT -5 DOOMS said:

Just sit back and watch. I'm just noticing they haven't been so off base on a number of the comments I've read concerning scheduling, tact, demeanor, etc...

They can win with pretty much anybody so they can be much more particular than we can. We'll probably go to greater lengths to ignore things due to our situation. But I sincerely doubt we'd be playing this game (or St. Paul's) but for one person.

We would be playing UNH on the road if Broadway agreed to that game.

And if that happened, we would be complaining about that too.

you nailed it, westcoast!

[DOOMS]

Jun 8, 2011 8:14:02 GMT -5 DOOMS said:

And we should be playing Winston or a conference game, period.

[oleschoolaggie]

playing wssu wouldn't make sense because they want us to play them in winston which would give us a total of 7 road games with only 4 home games. considering we have a brand new pressbox to pay for and new high salaried coaches, we can't afford to play only 4 home games...

[Tee-Sharp]

This Virginia University of Lynchburg game will not count as a countable game for NCAA statistics for players, head coach or University (A&T).

Jazz, check their schedule again and the reading of the rule again. Six of their opponents on their schedule fall into the four year degree granting institutions fielding varsity football programs, and one is a JUCO, so it will count on the books.

Welp, does the game count or not? What does Hilton say?

[Deleted]

Jun 8, 2011 8:38:11 GMT -5 DOOMS said:

Jun 8, 2011 8:14:02 GMT -5 DOOMS said:

And we should be playing Winston or a conference game, period.

Just say no to 9+ Conference Games. 7-8 Conf. games is perfect.

But I digress...

We would be complaining about any game if it wasn't WSSU. Dare I say some of us would rather see our team play WSSU even if it means losing money.

[DOOMS]

Who is this magical "we" you keep referring to?

In any event, we supposedly have several conference games in a row away from home. Work through the conference and get one of them changed to a home game for us for Labor Day weekend, then schedule a breather game in place of that game in the middle of the season.

...or schedule a team that folds and follow up by scheduling a team that doesn't exist yet and isn't certain to exist by the game date, and cross your fingers and hope they can get it together by then.

[ohsixrain]

So we should break our bank paying WSSU to come to G'boro?