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Post by inthestands on Mar 31, 2011 14:01:33 GMT -5
All I know is, these new coaches... I hope they read this... You have to create a Fellowship and a TRUSTING atmosphere among the Team Members and the Coaches. You can't come in like Dark Vader and Start Light Sabering Character, confidence, and Belittling players to make them feel less than Adequate. Each coach should get to know EACH and every player on a personal level to get a feel for their personalities, Family status, Athletic ability, and overall outlook on their future plans for life to understand what kind of Gene Pool of players you have. If you come in with a "Cut Throat- Prison Warden" way of doing things, you are going to Kill the morale on this team. Discipline- Ethics...every player should held accountable for his actions on and off the field...Instill a Team work method as all the parts of the machine must work together to be successful. I've witnessed Foul language, belittling, and a Slave Driver style of direction... Think about how this came across for our Ancestors when they were in the fields? Any different? This only makes men Mad as hell and frustrated..especially when they do their best and are told "Its not good enough". Why not, "Ok, Lets work on this". Yes they have a Job to do but there are right and wrong ways for directions, training, focus, and instilling Initiative in POSITIVE ways. Find weaknesses and Tweak them for Balance. The Morale of the team wouldn't jump start a weedeater from what I've heard... If some changes aren't made on People skills, These will surely be the next wave of "Rental Coaches"...Fellowship...Pray together, work together...Extend the hand of Tutelage not a whip.. Your players are thirsty for guidance and Coaching for a Winning season, not to be shredded and stripped of what they already have.. BUILD don't Destroy... use the hammers you have to build the best machine you can, not to knock them out with it.. just my 2.
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Post by treese on Mar 31, 2011 14:19:45 GMT -5
damn damn damn!!!!!
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Post by Trueaggie on Mar 31, 2011 14:31:54 GMT -5
All I know is, these new coaches... I hope they read this... You have to create a Fellowship and a TRUSTING atmosphere among the Team Members and the Coaches. You can't come in like Dark Vader and Start Light Sabering Character, confidence, and Belittling players to make them feel less than Adequate. Each coach should get to know EACH and every player on a personal level to get a feel for their personalities, Family status, Athletic ability, and overall outlook on their future plans for life to understand what kind of Gene Pool of players you have. If you come in with a "Cut Throat- Prison Warden" way of doing things, you are going to Kill the moral on this team. Discipline- Ethics...every player should held accountable for his actions on and off the field...Instill a Team work method as all the parts of the machine must work together to be successful. I've witnessed Foul language, belittling, and a Slave Driver style of direction... Think about how this came across for our Ancestors when they were in the fields? Any different? This only makes men Mad as hell and frustrated..especially when they do their best and are told "Its not good enough". Why not, "Ok, Lets work on this". Yes they have a Job to do but there are right and wrong ways for directions, training, focus, and instilling Initiative in POSITIVE ways. Find weaknesses and Tweak them for Balance. The Moral of the team wouldn't jump start a weedeater from what I've heard... If some changes aren't made on People skills, These will surely be the next wave of "Rental Coaches"...Fellowship...Pray together, work together...Extend the hand of Tutelage not a whip.. Your players are thirsty for guidance and Coaching for a Winning season, not to be shredded and stripped of what they already have.. BUILD don't Destroy... use the hammers you have to build the best machine you can, not to knock them out with it.. just my 2. This coach knows what he is doing; Hollywood take care of you business. This may be what has been lacking the last 10 years; coming from a coach that has rebuilt more than one sorry team this is what must need to be done. Quit moaning and time to man up; they were not cutting it then and apparently the coaches see there are areas that need major improvement. It is time to get it done; no time for pampering feelings.. just my 2.
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Post by DOOMS on Mar 31, 2011 14:34:43 GMT -5
I would think that 1-10 and getting your coaching staff fired after a mere two years would warrant a little toughness on the part of their replacements. Considering the prior coaching staff did all that was suggested in the first post on this thread and got canned, I will provide the water for the wetting of the whip if need be.
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Post by Gator on Mar 31, 2011 14:37:24 GMT -5
I assume the advise is coming from someone that's a college level or above coach!
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Post by bluehaze on Mar 31, 2011 14:49:59 GMT -5
I guess the moral of this post is that I can see why we haven't won more than 4 games in 7 years...
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Post by inthestands on Mar 31, 2011 15:07:57 GMT -5
I won't speculate, or point fingers...humans make Typos.... I corrected this.. I have people skills and have been trained to deal with multiple types of people.... Yes I agree there should be a HIGHER level and better focusing of Direction, but it must be done right. These fellas already know how to lose. So many of us come from that "Beat'em while they're down" syndrome.... So beit. A caged animal comes out with sharper teeth and may turn on you, or run away.. Weakness isn't judged by "How much you can Take"... More so of what you're willing to put up with. Even a Broken clock is right twice a day.... Discipline issues can be dealt with in Civil ways by establishing RULES, Ground Rules, Testing to thwart unruly "Off the field" abuses... Zero Tolerance for such behaviors... We'll see how this coach does... Toughness, yeah... There are ways to do that other than making them feel like Chicken Sh!t.. That works well in fertilizer...
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Post by DOOMS on Mar 31, 2011 15:19:07 GMT -5
The past three coaches have been the nurturing type. It doesn't work with these guys.
To me it's very telling that you rarely get people on here posting how the guys are getting their behinds kicked by the coaching staff and are responding by giving their best. It's always complaining because their coach dared tell them to shut up and learn something. That's a quitter's and loser's attitude.
Why not see if this behind-kicking works before rubbing their sore backs? Football is a very tough, physical game. Practice should be tougher than game day. I hated my coach, but game day was a breeze compared to practice. That made us better on game day.
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Post by Tee-Sharp on Mar 31, 2011 15:30:45 GMT -5
... We'll see how this coach does... …and that’s all that needs to be said. His track record speaks for itself. Perhaps this is part of his plan to make them come together as a team. Perhaps he’s using a different angle to remove the losing mentality. The man has been in and around football all his life. Obviously his methods worked at NCCu and Grambling.
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Post by ohsixrain on Mar 31, 2011 15:33:46 GMT -5
my goodness...we haven't even kicked they ball off for the first game and we have complaints about the coaching staff already (scratching my head)? come on now, spring is when teams are built and i assume broadway is building his team. now, we charged broadway to build us a team...and we didn't say "broadway be nice!" that's why he through them bastards out...that's all i'm gone say. oh, oh my bad...that was my little rendition of lean on me with joe clark. but no, seriously, let the coaches do what they do, if it doesn't work then come back and post your complaints. it's not supposed to be easy, are they supposed to treat them like meac champions?? well, let me answer for you, if you don't know....hell-2-da-naw!!! dadlammit!!!
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Post by inthestands on Mar 31, 2011 15:42:12 GMT -5
...you still don't get it...you can motivate a person by working on his weaknesses to do it better over and over until a higher performance level is reached which includes the building of Mental Confidence both on and off the field.. calling him a useless MF A-hole might trigger something else none of us are ready for... "Full metal Jacket" comes to mind.. Keep drilling that day in and day out..I've turned Throw away kids into Engineers, Nurses, Dr's, Policemen (Police women) Lawyers..the list is long...due to health reasons, I am retired now.. They don't need their "Backs Rubbed" as you stated... They need coaching more effective than "Caning".... they need professional Counseling to go along with the job.. We have our Children out there..Humans..not F'cking Animals bruh... Adults have mental issues too that need tending to...and it ain't getting fixed with Hostility... A well disciplined balanced engine works smoother than a loud clanky pissed off Oily Tractor rig.. Ask Mercedes...
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Post by ohsixrain on Mar 31, 2011 15:54:49 GMT -5
i hear ya, inthestands. but what if this method works, then what?? maybe, they are trying to make them mad so they can use that anger and turn it into aggression on the football. everybody cannot be a phil jackson, come on! there are different styles that are effective, you just so happen not to like this particular one. i guess the next thing you'll tell me is the meac champions coach used the methods you mentioned earlier...right? well, don't answer, i already know the answer. bcu's coach gave them a boot camp on the beach in daytona, fl....he had those guys rolling around in the sand, carrying each other and other drills as well. he said that some players quit, but it worked, he won the conference in his first year. so, he did something right. i think we finally have a coach that will weed out the "whiners" and won't play favorites, which will make us a better football team in the long run. thus, his style may not necessarily reveal its advantages right now, but i think there will be some though.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Mar 31, 2011 16:01:20 GMT -5
The man just got here and I for one dont think we should be questioning his style. Its his team and I think he has every right to set the tone that he wants.
Sounds like tough love to me but I bet he will stand behind his players.
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Post by AggieBorn on Mar 31, 2011 16:06:30 GMT -5
Go ahead and coach your team coach. Raise some hell, kick some butt and hurt some feelings. Kids are soft as babies butts these days, even the athletes. They'll be fine. They need to toughen up. This is football not tennis!
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Post by inthestands on Mar 31, 2011 16:10:17 GMT -5
I hope so..we'll see... I can't reveal too much, but I've worked with schools all over the country, Military, CEO's, Corporate Supe's, Managers etc.. I know how "Other Coaches" think if you get the term "Other".... I've helped athletes with World Records to ones Paralyzed from the neck down and I know what they are thinking... I have to laugh at the BCU coach... Ask him where.. Naaah..don't ask.. It worked didn't !!! Hell yeah it did.. But did you hear him calling his player Sorry Mf'rs?.. nope... Hint: Polamalu on that Beach thing... but I agree with you on we need more EFFECTIVE COACHING.... We'll see.. let's wait and see... Thas all I can say about it. Some Folk Be concerned.. and they have deeeep pockets... Oh yeah...I'd like to ask anyone reading this...would you work for a Boss or supervisor who basically Sh!t down your neck day in and day out? Called you names and verbally abused you every single second you're at work? ha ha...I think not..You'b be home on the couch waiting on your law suit check to come in the mail from you suing for Harassment... I digress
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