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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 17, 2019 9:38:54 GMT -5
2019 is not about preparing for 2020. 2019 is about winning in 2019. ND State might not even be a top 5 team when we play them in 2020. You are the only person on this site who is willing to sacrifice an entire season just to prepare for a non-conference road game the following year. Please stop. The entire premise is utterly ridiculous. gotta agree with you on this one...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 17, 2019 9:44:52 GMT -5
man, ain't nothin' like a good ole aggie qb controversy!! its the offseason, why not...
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Post by aggie2039 on Apr 17, 2019 10:24:55 GMT -5
Carter played quarterback in both games we lost during that span. without carter, we "lose" the scsu, ecu, and kent state games! raynard "started" in all three of those games (except scsu, quick started that game) and we would've "loss" all three had it not been for carter. again, scsu and ecu and kent state are "top competition", ssu ain't... Kent state Femi won us that game...Carter got injured on his first series.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 17, 2019 10:37:17 GMT -5
That has been an ongoing theme. Carter has never been able to stay healthy at any point in his career.
Why? Because he is a bowling ball quarterback who is at his best when the ball is tucked under his arm and his shoulder in planted in the chest of an opposing linebacker. ' That might work in relief duty 2 or 3 times a year, but you will not make in through an entire season playing like that.
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Post by Gator on Apr 17, 2019 10:47:41 GMT -5
Carter had 53 yards passing in 4 quarters against Savannah State. Let me say that again: Carter had a grand total of 53 yards through the air ... with weapons like Bell, Leslie and Malik Wilson at his disposal. But on the bright side, he also had a team-high 93 yards on the ground and one rushing touchdown. Those are the kind of stats you would expect from the starting quarterback at Georgia Tech or the Naval Academy. you keep harping on just "one game"! sometimes guys don't bring their "a" game against inferior opponents, including the entire team. the question ain't how he performs against inferior opponents. the question is how her performs against "superior" opponents like ecu, scsu, and kent state. don't talk to me about ssu, femi as our starting qb could've beaten ssu. talk to me about the most "meaningful" games... I agree 100%, using one game is NOT rational thinking in drawing a conclusion about a player.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 17, 2019 10:53:59 GMT -5
Please remind me of another game where Carter played all 4 quarters.
Please remind me of a game where Carter played in 3 consecutive quarters.
The SSU game was the only time in his entire career that he was named the starter beforehand and played the entire game.
What other body of work does he have to draw a conclusion from?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2019 10:55:03 GMT -5
I'm fully expecting to see all 3 QBs play against Elon whereas whoever is in the game will have a short leash.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 17, 2019 11:00:33 GMT -5
If we play all 3 quarterbacks against one opponent we are either struggling mightily on offense ... or we are up by 30 in the fourth quarter.
This is not a scrimmage we are talking about here. You do not rotate quarterbacks in the season opener just to assess talent.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 17, 2019 11:09:13 GMT -5
without carter, we "lose" the scsu, ecu, and kent state games! raynard "started" in all three of those games (except scsu, quick started that game) and we would've "loss" all three had it not been for carter. again, scsu and ecu and kent state are "top competition", ssu ain't... Kent state Femi won us that game...Carter got injured on his first series. no, carter did not get injured on his first series, femi didn't come in until the 4th qtr. carter played most of the 3rd qtr and some of the 4th qtr. but you're correct that femi finished out the game for us. however, femi would not have been in a position to win that game had carter not turned the game around before he got injured. carter completely "changed" the momentum of the game in our favor. we were "losing" to kent state by a score of "10 to zero" before carter came into the game early in the 3rd qtr. then carter came in and threw a short td pass to leroy hill following a dominating "69 yard" drive that gave us the momentum. before that, raynard could not move our offense at all against kent state, hence we had "zero" points. before carter left the game with an injury early in the 4th qtr, he led us to a "tie" with kent state and then femi took over in the 4th quarter to lead us the rest of the way, to a victory after 4 ot's. by the time femi came in during the 4th qtr, momentum had already shifted to us and that gave our guys confidence. i really don't think femi would've been in a position to win that game had carter not changed the momentum of that game...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 17, 2019 11:18:54 GMT -5
That has been an ongoing theme. Carter has never been able to stay healthy at any point in his career.. c'mon, thrilla. you're better than this! stop making stuff up. carter has only been injured playing football just "one time". other than the automobile accident, name another "football related" injury that would not allow carter to play? i'll wait while you search to come up "empty". hmmm? now let's see, when did carter get injured playing football last season? none!! how 'bout the year before that? none!! how 'bout in 2016? yes, knee injury. how 'bout his "true freshman" year? none, zippo!! so upon further review, carter has been injured playing football exactly "one friggin' time"! your honor, i rest my case...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 17, 2019 11:33:22 GMT -5
Please remind me of another game where Carter played all 4 quarters. Please remind me of a game where Carter played in 3 consecutive quarters. The SSU game was the only time in his entire career that he was named the starter beforehand and played the entire game. What other body of work does he have to draw a conclusion from? first of all, it ain't as if carter played "poorly" against ssu. he had about 150 yards of total offense, he completed more than 50% of his passes and he had "zero" int's in that game. just because he didn't air it out as you would like, doesn't mean he played "poorly". most importantly, we won the doggone game!! and he threw "zero" int's!! secondly, are your trying to imply that raynard played "exceptionally well" in every game he won? if so, i suggest you go back and check out the first 2 games of last season just as "starters", but there's plenty more. yet, you didn't complain about those games. thirdly, who else on our current roster has played 4 consecutive quarters as a college qb? <crickets> so what's your point in that regard? surely raynard's first 4 consecutive quarters as a starter were not impressive either, but you didn't complain about that. kylil's body of work? dude, check his career stats!! he's a career 55% plus pass completion qb who arguably led us to 3 of the biggest wins in aggie football history!! what's fowler's body of work? <crickets> what's ifedi's body of work? <crickets> so what's your point?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 17, 2019 11:39:27 GMT -5
The leg injury sustained in the car accident might have been exacerbated by previous contact sustained on the football field. No one can know for sure. lol
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 17, 2019 11:40:29 GMT -5
The leg injury sustained in the car accident might have been exacerbated by repeated contact sustained on the football field. No one can know for sure. lol
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Apr 17, 2019 11:41:28 GMT -5
While his injury was major I dont recall him ever having any other injuries. The other thing we are not considering is the OFF Coord giving Carter a full game plan that is not based on the QB draw. Even the games he came in to relieve Raynard because we were up significantly pretty much all he was asked to do was run the QB draw play and milk the clock.
I think Aggie One said Carter appeared much slimier during spring ball as he was out there throwing the ball around in non contact drills.
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Post by saabman on Apr 17, 2019 11:41:34 GMT -5
2019 is not about preparing for 2020. 2019 is about winning in 2019. ND State might not even be a top 5 team when we play them in 2020. You are the only person on this site who is willing to sacrifice an entire season just to prepare for a non-conference road game the following year. Please stop. The entire premise is utterly ridiculous. gotta agree with you on this one... Do not count on it
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