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Post by neon on Jul 6, 2016 16:10:53 GMT -5
Do you think the BSC would ever try to steal lets say a team from the MEAC Yes, I think moving up to the FBS Level is a a little far fetched... but what about moving to PWC lets say umm umm the Big South... Do you think that would ever ever be a possibility?
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Post by marchingband1969 on Jul 6, 2016 18:27:00 GMT -5
Do you think the BSC would ever try to steal lets say a team from the MEAC Yes, I think moving up to the FBS Level is a a little far fetched... but what about moving to PWC lets say umm umm the Big South... Do you think that would ever ever be a possibility? Why move to a PWC? Hell most PWI football programs at the FCS level are loosing money too. And our attendance will tank if we played a heavy schedule of Citadel or Wofford. If we're going to stay at the FCS level, let's play teams our fans care about.
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Post by captaggie on Jul 6, 2016 21:25:50 GMT -5
Before ruling out a PWC, how viable is the MEAC'S future?
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Jul 6, 2016 22:07:51 GMT -5
Look at the Southern Conference 10 years ago.... Look at the Big South Conference 10 years ago.... Look at the MEAC Conference 10 years ago.....
Look at them now.......which has been the most stable conference? Which conference has a prime bowl game that has a huge payout versus having to pay in for the playoffs.
What exactly does A&T gain joining the Big South or Southern Conference? We don't need to switch conferences to improve our athletics.
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Post by AggiePride on Jul 6, 2016 22:33:32 GMT -5
Agreed. The MEAC has its fault but at least it has a decent geographic and national footprint. It stretches the east coast with access to major markets.
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Post by captaggie on Jul 6, 2016 22:43:12 GMT -5
There's more to stable than membership.
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Post by trues on Jul 7, 2016 13:39:04 GMT -5
Honest question. Just because Coastal moved to FBS does that automatically mean their FBS money will be better to pay us a bigger check (assuming we played them)? Correct me if I am wrong. I dont think we normally get paid for FCS school if the agreement was a HOME-AWAY contract like it was with Coastal and ELON. So the money cannot be better because we never got paid for those games. I do think when Appalachian was a FCS it was AWAY games only we got paid for those.
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Post by trues on Jul 7, 2016 13:46:45 GMT -5
I think before we consider moving up. We would do ourselves better justice by going to a better conf. that has lucrative TV packages and gain better visibility.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 7, 2016 13:50:43 GMT -5
i don’t see any reason why we still couldn’t play games against some of our traditional meac rivals if we bolted for a pwc like the big south, especially given that the big south has so few football playing schools. hail, even coastal played 3 meac teams (a&t, scsu, famu) all in one season a couple of years ago.
so let’s not falsify the consequences of bolting to a pwc. hail, tennessee state plays numerous hbcu’s every season despite being a member of a much larger pwc (the ovc) than the big south. so not being able to play other hbcu rivals is not a valid excuse not to bolt to a pwc.
and our history has also shown that our fans show out for games against elon or coastal carolina in numbers that equal and/or “exceed” that of some meac teams. as i recall, we had more fans at aggie stadium to watch us play coastal than we had to watch rivals such as bcu or morgan state...
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Post by durhamgsoaggie on Jul 7, 2016 14:04:27 GMT -5
Look at the Southern Conference 10 years ago.... Look at the Big South Conference 10 years ago.... Look at the MEAC Conference 10 years ago..... Look at them now.......which has been the most stable conference? Which conference has a prime bowl game that has a huge payout versus having to pay in for the playoffs. What exactly does A&T gain joining the Big South or Southern Conference? We don't need to switch conferences to improve our athletics. NSS, these are legit points. The thing that I'm watching with the FCS playoff conferences is as they continue to grow their TV/digital deals with regional carriers outside of ESPN... they will very likely in the near future be able to stop paying out of pocket for playoff games. And whereas only one school per conference benefits from the CB, all the schools would benefit from the structure that the Big South/SoCon/CAA have laid the groundwork for. It's a matter of whether we're cool sitting pat with the ESPNU deal... or realizing that there may be more possibilities out there if our schools are willing to invest in the equipment to produce enough HD content to do a marketable network. Under our current MEAC leadership, I think I know what our answer is... and it's not really growth.
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Post by bluehaze on Jul 7, 2016 14:09:02 GMT -5
i don’t see any reason why we still couldn’t play games against some of our traditional meac rivals if we bolted for a pwc like the big south, especially given that the big south has so few football playing schools. hail, even coastal played 3 meac teams (a&t, scsu, famu) all in one season a couple of years ago. so let’s not falsify the consequences of bolting to a pwc. hail, tennessee state plays numerous hbcu’s every season despite being a member of a much larger pwc (the ovc) than the big south. so not being able to play other hbcu rivals is not a valid excuse not to bolt to a pwc. and our history has also shown that our fans show out for games against elon or coastal carolina in numbers that equal and/or “exceed” that of some meac teams. as i recall, we had more fans at aggie stadium to watch us play coastal than we had to watch rivals such as bcu or morgan state... Numerous is three to four games for TSU and after that last HBCU game the attendance falls to the floor. They also have a conference exemption in order to play a modified schedule. Then there's also a whole other dynamic in regards to how they are treated at road games and the type of officiating they receive in football and basketball. TSU Home attendance last year Alabama State 22,455 Jackson State 48,385 (Classic in Memphis) Eastern Illinois 22,144 (Homecoming) Austin Peay 5,985 Murray State 7,987 2014 Edward Waters 10,545 Jackson State 46,914 (Classic in Memphis) Tennessee Tech 9,217 FAMU 29,225 Jacksonville State 5,849 UT Martin 6,738 Eastern Kentucky 5,052
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 7, 2016 14:21:13 GMT -5
i don’t see any reason why we still couldn’t play games against some of our traditional meac rivals if we bolted for a pwc like the big south, especially given that the big south has so few football playing schools. hail, even coastal played 3 meac teams (a&t, scsu, famu) all in one season a couple of years ago. so let’s not falsify the consequences of bolting to a pwc. hail, tennessee state plays numerous hbcu’s every season despite being a member of a much larger pwc (the ovc) than the big south. so not being able to play other hbcu rivals is not a valid excuse not to bolt to a pwc. and our history has also shown that our fans show out for games against elon or coastal carolina in numbers that equal and/or “exceed” that of some meac teams. as i recall, we had more fans at aggie stadium to watch us play coastal than we had to watch rivals such as bcu or morgan state... Numerous is three to four games for TSU and after that last HBCU game the attendance falls to the floor. They also have a conference exemption in order to play a modified schedule. Then there's also a whole other dynamic in regards to how they are treated at road games and the type of officiating they receive in football and basketball. TSU Home attendance last year Alabama State 22,455 Jackson State 48,385 (Classic in Memphis) Eastern Illinois 22,144 (Homecoming) Austin Peay 5,985 Murray State 7,987 2014 Edward Waters 10,545 Jackson State 46,914 (Classic in Memphis) Tennessee Tech 9,217 FAMU 29,225 Jacksonville State 5,849 UT Martin 6,738 Eastern Kentucky 5,052 well, of course jackson state is “always” gonna draw big because historically jsu has pretty much always been tsu’s partner in the southern heritage classic except for maybe one or two years. and shoot, quite frankly, jsu is one of the top drawing hbcu teams in the country every year. so its no surprise that the southern heritage classic draws big numbers every year. i agree that road game officiating could be a problem, but that's nothing we don't already experience when we travel to schools like tulsa, kent state, app stste, elon, or coastal carolina. but if you check our historical home attendance figures for elon and coastal, our turnout has been better than some meac schools (i.e. dsu, msu, bcu to name a few)...
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Post by DECKS on Jul 7, 2016 19:46:25 GMT -5
I'd like to see us focus on fielding a quality football program rather tnan trying to emulate the SWAC who's concentration seems to be on attendance and halftime but can't beat anyone out of conference. Im not gonna say we should leave the MEAC but I'd like to see us get back to playing a quality fcs ooc schedule. Remember, if we hadn't beaten Elon we wouldn't have been in the Celebration Bowl.
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Post by saabman on Jul 8, 2016 1:07:51 GMT -5
I say stay in the MEAC and build and do as Decks says " Quality FCS and OOC Schedule" Look the grass is not always greener on a PWC field. Look why or we FCS HBCU's have to be the ones almost Begging to get a invitation to there show ?? When we are the only real show in town just look at the attends !! I don't see any of the PWC with a Bowl game in the FCS ! If handled right (I hope we do)us this opportunity to make the MEAC stronger and they will come too us!
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Post by DECKS on Jul 8, 2016 20:51:28 GMT -5
If the MEAC would win about 40% of ooc games vs fcs competition I thnk we'd have multiple teams involved in post season play.
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