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Post by Aggie Monster on May 15, 2012 9:02:13 GMT -5
Broadway is killing it! Locally at that.
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Post by ohsixrain on May 15, 2012 9:12:23 GMT -5
I don't want to get over-excited but Man...I beginning to believe we are on the brink of something special this year. As T.O. says "Get your popcorn ready!"
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 15, 2012 10:24:15 GMT -5
holdup folks. i'm all for getting excited, but why so much excitement over this guy? am i missing something? of course all i know about him is what i read in the article and his stats are good. but its at a 1A school? sorry, i just don't get very impressed with 1A football. not to say one can't find a diamond in the rough at a 1A school. but on the surface, i'm not very impressed. imho, appears to be a redshirt candidate with starting or backup potential at best 2 or 3 years down the road...
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on May 15, 2012 11:42:57 GMT -5
I have also been taken for a ride on the “excitement bus” when it comes to Aggie Football, but this year I feel very different. I feel very good about this year and the future of the program. When I look at this class I’m impressed by not only the talent, but the character of the group.
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Post by saabman on May 15, 2012 12:09:05 GMT -5
OSA you of all people should know that 1-A to 5-A it's just the size of your school (Student wise) But in the end Football is Football. Just look at all the so called 5 star players from bigger high schools that don't pan out at the next level. What I have seen from the 1,2,3 A player are guys that come in with a chip on his shoulders to prove that they belong with the best and most turn out to be fine player at the next level ! It's all about the coaching at the High school level and being teachable and reachable at the next level. Also Darrell Green with to a 1-A school Jesse H. Jones High School in Houston he didn't make the varsity team until his senior year because of the talent that was in front of him. Broadway sees a player not a 1-A player But a football player!
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Post by Aggie One on May 15, 2012 12:30:53 GMT -5
Let me drop this note of knowledge to you about Hendersonville High School. They are one of the most powerful 2-A programs if not the best year in and year out.
They are surrounded by much larger 3-A and 4-A schools along that Asheville I-26 corridor, play them on regular basis and beat the crap out of them year and year out. They are consistently either in the state championship or the round of final four in the playoffs. A usual 9-2 record, a conference title and a deep run into the playoffs is the norm there and not an exception.
I know of only other two schools their size that the big 3 and 4-A boys don't really want any play besides them in western part of the state and that is Thomasville and Mt. Airy.
They have placed some 24 kids at either FBS or FCS schools over the last nine years so these guys are no slouches. If you were at this past weekend's 1-A/2-A track finals at A&T, this kid ripped a hole in the state times in the 100 and 200 sprints and placed well in the hurdles and he has a pure college football physique.
I follow a lot of western North Carolina Football because my wife is from that area and several of her cousins are coaches from Surry Co. all the way to Haywood County. Before there was a Jerry Moore, App State's lifeblood and all of their prior SoCon championships were built on these mountain kids and they can flat out play.
These are the kids we need to recruit. They are real country kids who work tobacco and cattle farms all summer long, church going on Sundays with their parents and kin and play sports all winter and they are damn good students. So before you dismiss them for the urban flavor. Think again.
Major Kay, the 6-5,318 pound OT we signed from East Lincoln is a distant cousin of mine on my late Mom's side of the family and he ain't no big belly cream puff by no stretch of the imagination.
He's a legitimate FCS prospect and probably a lower D-I recruit (ECU wanted him so they must have seen the same thing Broadway did) who played at a small school and didn't get the all the Saturday morning ink in the papers.
He's a up side potential behemoth from 1-A school with excellent grades and with solid coaching from Coach Wagner, he can easily be the premier player in a couple of years at left tackle with his footwork.
Coastal, App State, and Elon have been beating the brains out of our HBCU's with these very same small school kids for years.
You might want to somewhat re-think that big school only philosophy before dismissing a kid by virture of the geography of his birth.
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Post by Aggie Monster on May 15, 2012 12:31:03 GMT -5
As far as THIS last recruit I like the track background. Anchor on a State final 4x2 at any level is impressive. He'll go from playing LB(probably due to HS teams lack of size) to playing CB, which means he will know how to hit.
Overall I'm just impressed with the recruits. I wasn't that impressed(others were) with past recruiting classes. Some individuals looked good to me in the past, but as an overall class this one will be the best in a long time if they all stay eligible. A good class to go along with a VERY veteran team spells trouble for the MEAC and Coastal.
I can say this as a fan, but I think we are going to kick the $@% out of Coastal and their CEO coach. I wish I could be there to witness it, but I dont think I could make it to Myrtle on time.
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Post by DECKS on May 15, 2012 14:19:23 GMT -5
I like the track background as well.
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Post by ohsixrain on May 15, 2012 14:36:45 GMT -5
I cannot believe what I'm reading from you oleschool...?? Are you serious? Aggie One said it best about geography. Now, of course, he isn't the blue chip recruit that comes in and starts from day 1, but he adds depth and that's the key to our success. Do I think he will come in and move Grant off the corner? No...but, he is a quality player that will add depth to a decent to good team.
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Post by Aggie Monster on May 15, 2012 14:43:23 GMT -5
Its strange, someone is wrong. The article says he finished 9th in the 200, but he isn't listed as running it on the results page.
They ran a (respectable)1:33.55 4x2 and he was anchor.
He ran a 11.9s 100m dash - nothing to brag about, but considering he played linebacker that's a pretty good time.
He doesn't seem to have a "track" frame at 5'10 195lbs, especially not as an anchor on a 4x2, so I'll just say these times are pretty decent considering the training he probably received in 1A and he is a linebacker.
As far as 1A goes. I agree with Oleschool(not really), but I see it a different way. 1A guys dont get to play their natural positions that they would play in college due to the lack of numbers on the team. Linebackers are normally college DBs and Linemen are normally linebackers. They also dont get same level of competition, but like AggieOne pointed out. Once they get to school and get that good coaching and get in the right position they blossom. I also love his comment about Socon whooping our asses with these types of players for a long time. Sooooo True!!
It's funny, after looking at the times I would have been 1st place in every track event I participated in if I was 1A this year, LOL. So there is somethiing to be said about divisions.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 15, 2012 14:54:42 GMT -5
well, like i previously stated, you can always fine a diamond in the rough at the 1A level, i understand that. but its not the norm. and also as i stated, all i know about the kid is what i read in the article. so he could be the next coming of barry sanders for all i know.
but i do know this. the odds of finding great fcs players at the 1A level is considerably less than finding them at the 3A or 4A level. sure, you can find talent at the 1A level, but i wouldn't place a heavy amount of credence into 1A stats and that's all i have to go on for now.
i mean, even the state championship track meets are separated by classification nowadays. whereas, back in the day, north carolina use to "combine" all 4 classifications (1A, 2A, 3A, 4A) together for the sectionals and regionals, as well as the state championships. 9th in the 200 meters at the state championships would've been much more impressive to me had it happened back in the day because the best talent "regardless of class" would've been there. but 9th against only 1A competition doesn't really impress me as much.
hey, i'm only expressing my opinion, but indeed i could be wrong...
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Post by ohsixrain on May 15, 2012 15:09:16 GMT -5
I can see him now playing safety...now I will say this. There's a difference in track speed and football speed. You can have a receiver run a 4.5-6 in the 40 yard dash in the pros but yet a corner that runs a 4.3-4 cannot run him down. See Jerry Rice. Just an example.
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Post by Aggie Monster on May 15, 2012 15:11:25 GMT -5
well, like i previously stated, you can always fine a diamond in the rough at the 1A level, i understand that. but its not the norm. and also as i stated, all i know about the kid is what i read in the article. so he could be the next coming of barry sanders for all i know. but i do know this. the odds of finding great fcs players at the 1A level is considerably less than finding them at the 3A or 4A level. sure, you can find talent at the 1A level, but i wouldn't place a heavy amount of credence into 1A stats and that's all i have to go on for now. i mean, even the state championship track meets are separated by classification nowadays. whereas, back in the day, north carolina use to "combine" all 4 classifications (1A, 2A, 3A, 4A) together for the sectionals and regionals, as well as the state championships. 9th in the 200 meters at the state championships would've been much more impressive to me had it happened back in the day because the best talent "regardless of class" would've been there. but 9th against only 1A competition doesn't really impress me as much. hey, i'm only expressing my opinion, but indeed i could be wrong... Naw your not wrong. Boy your REALLY "old school" Though. They haven't had combined regionals and states in track since the 70s. And I'm only guessing 70s cause I dont know anyone that ran prior to that, LOL. His individual track times are not that impressive, but I just like the work ethic to still run track in your senior year and your not a top guy in your event. Shows a lot of character and will to get better. He's the type of guy that will get a solid 2 years out of a FCS career.
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Post by saabman on May 15, 2012 17:14:21 GMT -5
I did class of 72 Page and OSA is on the money on that one! They had a kid named Carter Suggs I think he was from Tarboro who was 1-A are 2 A at that time I think was a Sophomore when Huntly and I faced off with him in the 100 yard dash. That was a hot race...lol Huntly ran a 9.6, Suggs 9.65, me 9,67 and a kid from Raleigh Enlow 9.68. They stopped running combined Regionals in 75 I think because the 1,2,3 A schools where running away with everything..lol Suggs set the 100 yard National high school record with a 9.3 in 73 (I think)!! I feel that they hurt the lower level schools on the track side when they stopped doing that but Money talkes...lol Also AM football speed and track speed are to different things!
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Post by Aggie Monster on May 15, 2012 18:11:11 GMT -5
Also AM football speed and track speed are to different things! Oh, definitely! I'm the first to say that.
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