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Post by aggie2ru on Mar 15, 2011 19:21:22 GMT -5
I implore ANYONE who is interested in seeing a coaching chance in basketball----make your opinions known, NOT ONLY here, but call, make an appointment, send an e-mail, talk to in person Hilton and Martin and let them know that you are tired of this sickness and you are holding them accountable to correct the past mistakes and errors that have us swimming in less than mediocrity or AT BEST mediocrity!!!! We can talk on here until our mouths catch on fire but until it is brought to the full attention of the decision-makers, we are stuck like chuck!!! If money is a problem THEY will let us know, not speculators. If we have to get some money to get the job done let's do it. My meeting w/Hilton was promising. Nothing committed but there IS a chance. That's all I want for our school---with Mr..t500 in MEAC we have no chance to step it up!! There ARE coaches out there that can do the job at whatever pay we can afford. Frank McCain said, "be the change".
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Mar 15, 2011 20:51:42 GMT -5
Aggie 82,
Please if we were to post for head basketball Coach we would get a boat of resumes - many bad and some good. There are tons of assistants on someone bench waiting for a chance. There are numerous good Coaches sitting on someones bench making 45K that know basketball and would love to have their own progam. In addition look at neighborhood's list.
In addition as I pause before typing - what about Robinson that was on Bibbs staff ? I think he played ball at T ?
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Post by aggie82 on Mar 16, 2011 7:50:38 GMT -5
i agree, there might be a lot of good coaches out there...when you say coach, do you mean x's and o's? the problem at most avg programs is not coaching, it's recruiting..i have always said, a good coach can't win with bad players, but a decent coach can win with good players..it's not just here at A&T..Look at NC State, they have the best of everything, but tell me who can come into Raleigh and recruit against Roy Williams and Coach K? Only one name comes to mind, Calipari...
Take a little closer look at State..they havent been good since the Valvano era..State has everything that the big boys have, and they still cant put a winning program on the court..Word is, they gonna up the ante to 3 million per year, but it wont matter unless the new coach can get some players...We just need some players ! ! ! Talent makes a coaches job so much easier..
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Post by ohsixrain on Mar 16, 2011 8:13:24 GMT -5
That's debatable aggie82....Coach K gets the best players according to ESPN. But, the depending on what you define as the best players is debatable. He gets the best players for his program. He tends to get the absolute best out of his players. Now...look Kyle Singler (Duke) and compare his skill set to C. J. Leslie (N.C. State)...who do you like? Me, myself, I happen to like Leslie and his skills alot better. I will say that Leslie doesn't perform up to his total potential though. That's where coaching is important. Duke players understand their roles on their team and the execute their roles. Can't say that about NC State players.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Mar 16, 2011 8:42:37 GMT -5
That's debatable aggie82....Coach K gets the best players according to ESPN. But, the depending on what you define as the best players is debatable. He gets the best players for his program. He tends to get the absolute best out of his players. Now...look Kyle Singler (Duke) and compare his skill set to C. J. Leslie (N.C. State)...who do you like? Me, myself, I happen to like Leslie and his skills alot better. I will say that Leslie doesn't perform up to his total potential though. That's where coaching is important. Duke players understand their roles on their team and the execute their roles. Can't say that about NC State players. Agreed Ohsixrain. Lowe's recruiting(in terms of player rankings) has been above average(especially this year). Maybe not on the UNC Duke level, but not many schools are. Leslie and Brown were both offered by multiple ACC schools. 82, First you criticize Eaves coaching, then his recruiting, now our players. Geez, no words right now. Not only are those guys competing their butts off(proof by the many close wins), but most of them were freshman and sophomores.
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Post by aggiejazz on Mar 16, 2011 11:09:41 GMT -5
Sidney "Moonpie Head" Lowe simply can't coach. NC State was a solid middle of the pack program, top 5 to 7 team, that needed top 10 talent to challenge for the top 2 or 3 spots.
"Moonpie Head" took over a good program and preceded to take the program to the bottom of the ACC. So now, he can take his store bought degree from St Paul that preceded his hire and go to family counseling so he won't blame another HBCU for his problems.
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Post by aggie82 on Mar 16, 2011 14:24:31 GMT -5
I am not criticizing Eaves..I like Eaves, but yall can sit around here all day and lie to yourselfs...good programs are based on 3 things 1. Support from the university 2. Good coach and staff 3. Good players..
Out of the 3, tell me which ones our beloved university has or has had since we last won anything in basketball..
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Post by aggie82 on Mar 16, 2011 14:31:09 GMT -5
Now you guys say Sidney cant coach..you're only saying it because he wasnt winning...And they weren't paying Sidney to be a middle of the road program, just like we think we're not paying Eaves to be a middle of the road program..
Now I like CJ Leslie and Tracy Smith..but are they really as good as Zellar and Hinson? Is Ryan Harrow better than Kendall Marshall?..What is State's answer for Harrison Barnes? What is State's answer for Nolan Smith and Curry? What is State's answer gonna be for Austin Rivers, and Curry and Dawkins next year? Hell it dont matter who the coach is down there or at A&T if they can't bring in talent year in and year out...
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Post by bluehaze on Mar 16, 2011 14:48:41 GMT -5
And they weren't paying Sidney to be a middle of the road program, just like we think we're not paying Eaves to be a middle of the road program.. Actually we are
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Post by Aggie Monster on Mar 16, 2011 18:03:52 GMT -5
Now you guys say Sidney cant coach..you're only saying it because he wasnt winning...And they weren't paying Sidney to be a middle of the road program, just like we think we're not paying Eaves to be a middle of the road program.. Now I like CJ Leslie and Tracy Smith..but are they really as good as Zellar and Hinson? Is Ryan Harrow better than Kendall Marshall?..What is State's answer for Harrison Barnes? What is State's answer for Nolan Smith and Curry? What is State's answer gonna be for Austin Rivers, and Curry and Dawkins next year? Hell it dont matter who the coach is down there or at A&T if they can't bring in talent year in and year out... You say that now because their coaches have coached them up and taught them well. Leslie was one of the most sought after players in the country since his sophomore year in high school, even with John Wall as an older teammate. Much higher than Curry or Dawkins. And Lowe wasn't even middle of the pack. He took a middle of the pack team and made them a bottom dweller. His predecessor was middle of the road. You say "I'm not criticizing Eaves", but then say we have bad coaching........."I wouldn't just put my feet on somebody couch...........Yeah, I remember putting my feet in Eddie couch" ROFL.. Just an FYI, just talked to Thad Young. All the early 90s Aggies should remember him.
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Post by DECKS on Mar 16, 2011 18:54:36 GMT -5
Now you guys say Sidney cant coach..you're only saying it because he wasnt winning...And they weren't paying Sidney to be a middle of the road program, just like we think we're not paying Eaves to be a middle of the road program.. Now I like CJ Leslie and Tracy Smith..but are they really as good as Zellar and Hinson? Is Ryan Harrow better than Kendall Marshall?..What is State's answer for Harrison Barnes? What is State's answer for Nolan Smith and Curry? What is State's answer gonna be for Austin Rivers, and Curry and Dawkins next year? Hell it dont matter who the coach is down there or at A&T if they can't bring in talent year in and year out... Lowe was competing against more than just UNC & Duke. Hell, he couldn't beat the other ACC schools either. In fact he couldn't beat anyone from a major conference. Most of his victories came against mid-majors. Lol, he was lucky to beat MEAC seventh place team Del. State 72-70. He was very good recruiter but bad coach.
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Post by AggieGroove on Mar 16, 2011 19:20:40 GMT -5
I am not in favor of firing Eaves period.....like Bart Scott said "can't afford it"!
Oh, that was "can't wait"........
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Post by Aggie Monster on Mar 16, 2011 20:06:13 GMT -5
I am not in favor of firing Eaves period.....like Bart Scott said "can't afford it"! Oh, that was "can't wait"........ Exactly, if people knew our money situation it wouldn't even be a discussion. It is SUPER tight right now. Lee would still be here if his contract was guaranteed.
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Post by AggieGroove on Mar 17, 2011 10:45:48 GMT -5
I am not in favor of firing Eaves period.....like Bart Scott said "can't afford it"! Oh, that was "can't wait"........ Exactly, if people knew our money situation it wouldn't even be a discussion. It is SUPER tight right now. Lee would still be here if his contract was guaranteed. And if people really wanted to get rid of Eaves....they should become real Aggies and give the BIG $$$ to allow the university and athletics dept to write that check.. ;D
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Post by Aggie Monster on Mar 17, 2011 11:14:40 GMT -5
Exactly, if people knew our money situation it wouldn't even be a discussion. It is SUPER tight right now. Lee would still be here if his contract was guaranteed. And if people really wanted to get rid of Eaves....they should become real Aggies and give the BIG $$$ to allow the university and athletics dept to write that check.. ;D People give what they can. Just cause someone else gives 10K doesn't make them any more real of an Aggie than the guy that can only afford season tickets.
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