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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Mar 10, 2011 23:35:36 GMT -5
Let's be truthful about this folks...Eaves doesn't have it. From recruiting to gameplanning to mental toughness - Eaves doesn't have it. It's time to call a spade a spade. For all of you who want to defend Eaves, be realistic ---- what has he shown you that gives you any optimism that our future looks brighter?
I looked at the game tonight and saw a team (and a coach) who wants to win......but don't know how to. I don't fault their effort.
It's been 8 years of struggling. I appreciate Eaves for trying his best. I don't think anyone can say Eaves ain't trying. He just doesn't have it.
We can say next year will be different because the only player we're losing is Coleman. But be realistic - 2012 will end like every other year Eaves has given us.
As I told Chancellor Martin as I left tonight - Eaves is a good man; he means well - but you cannot hide the fact of what's in front of all of us --- he just cannot get us where we need to be.
To all --- just be realistic about this thing. Stop the hoping and wishing.....and just keep it real with yourselves. When you do, then you will come over to my side.....
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Post by TOPPDOGG on Mar 11, 2011 0:08:14 GMT -5
Can we afford to buy out another contract? In my mind that's the only consideration at this point.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Mar 11, 2011 0:14:11 GMT -5
I have been in Eaves corner but tonight was a meltdown. We split with Morgan in two close games during the regular season then get blowed out by almost 20 points
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Post by Blankman on Mar 11, 2011 0:42:26 GMT -5
Yeah all of this makes no sense...
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Post by Jesse Jackson's Side eye on Mar 11, 2011 1:15:45 GMT -5
uh oh, Looks like the Street Committee is Circling the Wagons, and rounding up the posse...
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Post by aggie2ru on Mar 11, 2011 6:43:58 GMT -5
Time to end the Eaves Experiment!Time To End The Eaves Experiment! Time to End The Eaves Experiment! Time To End The Eaves Experiment! Time To End The Eaves Experiment! Jerry do the honorable thing--before Martin does what he will have to do! Thanks for your efforts!!
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Post by aggiebred09 on Mar 11, 2011 8:28:16 GMT -5
Honestly family.... It does not take 8 seasons to turn a team around. Regardless if you like Eaves or not. Hell NC State is booting Lowe and Eaves was here before Lowe showed up at State. If they can recognize it ain't working, then why are we still putting faith in this man.
Heck if you love Jerry so much get rid of the Basketball Program and just keep him on staff. But this was an embarrassment that too many people called early.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2011 9:59:22 GMT -5
uh oh, Looks like the Street Committee is Circling the Wagons, and rounding up the posse... Led by N$$.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Mar 11, 2011 10:23:53 GMT -5
I knew this thread was coming. You guys might as well save your breath. Year 1 of a 3 year deal. No way. He'll definitely be on the hot hot seat next year, but I doubt if anything happens now.
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Post by DECKS on Mar 11, 2011 10:24:11 GMT -5
Before anyone jumps in with the "we budgeted for last place" defense take another look at this. We've gotten ripped in our last two games by the teams with the lowest budgets in the MEAC!!
2009 MEAC Mens Basketball Budgets
Delaware State $1,658,176 Howard $990,117 Hampton $961,760 Florida A&M $958,500 South Carolina State $955,693 North Carolina A&T $879,095 Maryland-Eastern Shore $845,998 Bethune-Cookman $814,601 Coppin State $809,792 Morgan State $792,718 Norfolk State $746,289
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Post by DECKS on Mar 11, 2011 10:27:42 GMT -5
I knew this thread was coming. You guys might as well save your breath. Year 1 of a 3 year deal. No way. We never should have given him beyond a one year extension. This is why I'm not in favor of termination. We just need to suck it up for 2 more years.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Mar 11, 2011 10:44:11 GMT -5
uh oh, Looks like the Street Committee is Circling the Wagons, and rounding up the posse... Led by N$$. Here's what pisses me off about folks. People talk about a "street committee" as if I am a person trying to wreak havoc over something that doesn't need to be seriously evaluated. Are people coming to the damn games (like I have for years) to see our deficiencies first hand??? I'm not a person griping because Eaves stole my girlfriend in high school 20 years ago.....this has to do with a good man who just cannot take our program any further. He has tried his best - his best isn't good enough. A change is needed here to improve the basketball program at A&T. So all the street committee talk folks are popping off at the mouth are simply ignorant. I have clearly stated my same concerns face-to-face (and in a cordial manner) to both Hilton and Martin. Frankly, I really question folks sanity who don't think Eaves' job needs to be seriously evaluated. There is no way in the world anyone could come from the A&T/Morgan game last night with the belief Eaves has our program in the right direction ---- NO ONE. Folks need to be realistic about this thing here ---- Eaves has given us his best. If we want MEAC championships, we need a new coach and direction (just like our football program).
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Mar 11, 2011 10:59:00 GMT -5
well folks, most of you know that i've been a long time supporter of coach eaves. but even i can't defend last night's performance. even though i've supported eaves, i've been consistent in my criticism of his poor tournament performances and he did nothing last night to show that he's overcome that hurdle. last night's performance was very disappointing.
as i stated prior to the tournament, i felt eaves should return next season barring a total collapse against morgan state. well, we didn't totally collapse last night, but we weren't far from it. i still think he deserves one more shot, largely because of his recent extension, an improved regular season, and a very capable returning team. however, if it were left up to me, next season would definitely be a "do or die" season for eaves. if we fired him after next season, we'd only have to eat 1 year of his contract.
if i'm the ad, he needs to have a breakout season next year if he wants to keep his job. i would not draw a line in the sand in terms of overall record, regular season standing, and so on because i don't think you can judge a coach's performance based on numbers alone. i think you have to look at the total package which is why i previously stated that i would judge eaves' performance after the season was over. but i would set some goals for him and if he doesn't meet those goals, he most likely would lose his job.
amongst those goals would be a regular season top 3 finish. and if he loses another first round tournament game, he'll pretty much seal his own fate no matter what he does during the regular season. i'd expect him to reach the tournament semi's "as a minimum" but preferably the finals and a championship.
to me, eaves backed himself into a corner after last night's performance. there's no more slack left on his leash. for me, its "do or die" from here on out for eaves. no more excuses and no more first round tournament exits...
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Mar 11, 2011 11:15:24 GMT -5
osa, I respect what you just posted. The only difference I have with you is that I don't think he deserves another year to prove himself, when he hasn't done it for the first 8 years. I got no sense at all that the team coming back next year will be any good. Thomas Coleman was our only difference maker. I don't even see a player on our team who even has the potential to be a difference maker. Morgan didn't even break a sweat last night with us. Other than the 3 minute period where our press gave them fits, last night's game was a scrimmage. They were not the least bit worried about us --- while we struggled like the devil to even score a basket.
Our offensive sets stunk. Our defense stunk.......and what makes it worse was that we were actually trying to compete. They weren't lazy - they just weren't good.
To be honest, I expected this outcome last night. I wasn't surprised about the results one bit. I've read this book before x 8 years. THIS IS HIS PATTERN - NOT AN ABERRATION.
I'm not recommending him to be fired because of an aberration ---- HIS EIGHT-YEAR PATTERN OF FAILING (WHEN IT REALLY MATTERS) SPEAKS FOR ITSELF....
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Post by Aggie Monster on Mar 11, 2011 11:20:13 GMT -5
Here's what pisses me off about folks. People talk about a "street committee" as if I am a person trying to wreak havoc over something that doesn't need to be seriously evaluated. Are people coming to the damn games (like I have for years) to see our deficiencies first hand??? I'm not a person griping because Eaves stole my girlfriend in high school 20 years ago.....this has to do with a good man who just cannot take our program any further. He has tried his best - his best isn't good enough. A change is needed here to improve the basketball program at A&T. So all the street committee talk folks are popping off at the mouth are simply ignorant. I have clearly stated my same concerns face-to-face (and in a cordial manner) to both Hilton and Martin. Frankly, I really question folks sanity who don't think Eaves' job needs to be seriously evaluated. There is no way in the world anyone could come from the A&T/Morgan game last night with the belief Eaves has our program in the right direction ---- NO ONE. Folks need to be realistic about this thing here ---- Eaves has given us his best. If we want MEAC championships, we need a new coach and direction (just like our football program). The difference is Eaves is "Mr .500" as someone dubbed him. He aint winless. Makes no sense to fire him right after giving him an extension. I dont think people are against you(or anyone else) on the Eaves criticisms because the team has failed when expected to win, but I just think they are pointless with the ink on his new contract still drying and the improved regular season. We were picked to finish 8th remember. I was never really a supporter, but I was also never a basher(except for last year). Basketball is different from football. Eaves not winnning the MEAC regular season aint hurting the school for money. Yeah, making the NCAA would bring in more money, but that's a long shot for any coach you bring in here. Does he deserve to be fired in my opinion. YES, if this was he last year of his contract. Or maybe even YES with 1 year left. But with 2 years left, definitely NOT. Some might call that settling for mediocracy, but I'm thinking like an AD right now. Not an Aggie fan. As an Aggie fan, sure show him the door. As an AD, Chancellor, or budget guy. Give him 1 more year. We are the idiots who gave him an extension when we didn't have to.
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