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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 25, 2012 14:38:29 GMT -5
i think raper, warren, and lewis will be respectable receivers. but raper and warren haven't proven that they are willing or capable of catching passes "in traffic". occasionally, raper and warren have alligator arms if there's traffic around when they're trying to make a catch. whereas someone like miles doesn't get distracted by traffic, he concentrates on the ball and aggressively goes after it.
i think that's why kindle went to miles so often, because miles was very reliable to make difficult catches and catches in traffic. it didn't have to be a perfect "unobstructed" pass for miles to make the catch and to me, that's the difference between a stud receiver versus an average receiver.
ricky lewis is a tough guy and he's not afraid of contact. but i'm not so sure that he can run all of the wide receiver routes and create space from that position. he's a great slot guy, but not the type of receiver that you can go to in the clutch from the wideout position. perhaps from the slot you can isolate him on a linebacker. but from the wideout position, i think he'd have a tougher time getting open against a decent db.
i think raper, warren, and lewis are complimentary receivers, not "go to" receivers. miles was a "go to" receiver. i think raper, warren, and lewis all have decent hands, but good hands alone is not the only attribute a good receiver needs. i can catch a football all day long if nobody is gonna hit me. but catching a football with the full knowledge that you're about to get viciously popped is an entirely different story. i don't think raper or warren are ready to do that. that's a matter of "toughness" that can't be taught. either you have it, or you don't...
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Post by Aggie One on Jan 25, 2012 14:54:59 GMT -5
Miles was so good because he ran great routes and created seperation. He wasn't the fastest guy out there but one of the smartest and precise in his route running. Look for a kid from my hometown that I am really high on to make an impact after being red shirted last year in 6-4, 210, R-Fr., Derek Grant (High Point Central).
He and Miles are very similar in thier ablilties and styles except Derek is much bigger, more physical and quicker out of his cuts. He worked on the scout team a year and gave people fits in practice a year ago. We got real lucky that he got his SATs late in the summer and we managed to steal him away from Shaw with a D-1 offer.
He's a player.
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Post by Aggie One on Jan 25, 2012 15:25:41 GMT -5
Having a solid number two quarterback is essential and if we can get Belcher and Booker we will be set on offense.
Belcher is a tremendous QB prospect who can throw and run the read option as well as anyone and he has really good size at 6-1, 208 and a all-star punter as well at 40 yds avg. per kick.
Booker is a 4.7 guy but if liked Wallace Miles you love this kid, 6-2, precise routes and glue for hands and drops nothing and both them are excellent students so the APR would jump way up.
I've said all winter long Broadway would be very selective in his recruiting. He knows his APR issues and he knows what parts he needed to add to to complete the puzzle to make a run in year two.
Remember. we need to reach the magic number if 14-17 really "Quality" kids in key positions both on field and in the classroom and you can begin to start see the makings of a typical Broadway turnaround class starting to take shape as signing day nears.
We're are not that far off from being serious contenders with this coaching staff.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jan 25, 2012 15:25:46 GMT -5
Our best WR will be the one that stays over the summer with Kindle and practices everyday. It's just that simple. You stay and catch these passes over the summer and you will be my guy!
If possible, I hope that all three would stay. It would help their grades and their game.
I love the work ethic of the Southern Durham kids. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't enroll early(summer) just to get a good jump on other freshman. AJ has them taking football very seriously over there now. They are so dedicated they wouldn't even have to be enrolled in summer school. They might just drive up and practice a few times a week. It's only 45 minutes.
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Post by Bigboy on Jan 25, 2012 15:57:37 GMT -5
According to Mayhew himself, in his own words is that if he graduates and enter grad school he will have another year of eligibility. I know that at the last home game on senior day he did not participate before the game with all the other seniors. Last hope he graduates and get another year. If he stays healthy he will be capable of some great accomplishments.
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Post by Aggie One on Jan 25, 2012 16:04:26 GMT -5
Mayhew has already said he was returning for 2012. McGinn now gives us that big power back we've been missing for a long long time.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 25, 2012 16:10:54 GMT -5
Our best WR will be the one that stays over the summer with Kindle and practices everyday. It's just that simple. You stay and catch these passes over the summer and you will be my guy! If possible, I hope that all three would stay. It would help their grades and their game. I love the work ethic of the Southern Durham kids. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't enroll early(summer) just to get a good jump on other freshman. AJ has them taking football very seriously over there now. They are so dedicated they wouldn't even have to be enrolled in summer school. They might just drive up and practice a few times a week. It's only 45 minutes. monster, how do you train a receiver to make catches across the middle where you're likely to get "popped" or any catch in traffic for that matter? i figured you might know since you coach the little guys. but thru my experiences, i don't see how it can be taught, per se'. maybe its possible to bulk a guy up somewhat so that he can withstand contact better, i dunno. but i think its more mental than physical when it comes to catching passes in traffic. what's your take?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 25, 2012 16:13:33 GMT -5
According to Mayhew himself, in his own words is that if he graduates and enter grad school he will have another year of eligibility. I know that at the last home game on senior day he did not participate before the game with all the other seniors. Last hope he graduates and get another year. If he stays healthy he will be capable of some great accomplishments. yeah, i thought i read that he was coming back in a sports article somewhere. don't remember if it was on the aggie athletics website or the n&r...
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Post by Bigboy on Jan 25, 2012 16:16:11 GMT -5
T. Warren is a really good WR and can catch the ball in traffic or anywhere else. This past season he was hampered by injuries. He got out there and tried to play, not knowing at the time that his foot was actually broken and that he had a hernia. This became known to him after the season. He had surgery right after the season ended and should be ready by the fall. He never got enough playing time this past season to really show what he is capable of doing. I know he dropped that pass at NSU but it was a difficult pass to catch and would have been a great catch if made. Once he is healthy I beleive he will prove that he is a good WR. And don't forget that he is a damn good return man, punts and kickoffs.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 25, 2012 16:27:46 GMT -5
it would be great to see warren step up and be "the man" next season. dude definitely has the physical tools, no one can question that. and he has better speed than miles. i could see how injuries may have hampered his performance last season, i suppose that's why we didn't see him returning too many kickoffs. i just hope when he's healthy, he'll have the toughness to make those difficult catches...
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jan 25, 2012 16:48:34 GMT -5
Our best WR will be the one that stays over the summer with Kindle and practices everyday. It's just that simple. You stay and catch these passes over the summer and you will be my guy! If possible, I hope that all three would stay. It would help their grades and their game. I love the work ethic of the Southern Durham kids. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't enroll early(summer) just to get a good jump on other freshman. AJ has them taking football very seriously over there now. They are so dedicated they wouldn't even have to be enrolled in summer school. They might just drive up and practice a few times a week. It's only 45 minutes. monster, how do you train a receiver to make catches across the middle where you're likely to get "popped" or any catch in traffic for that matter? i figured you might know since you coach the little guys. but thru my experiences, i don't see how it can be taught, per se'. maybe its possible to bulk a guy up somewhat so that he can withstand contact better, i dunno. but i think its more mental than physical when it comes to catching passes in traffic. what's your take? It's the same with any other thing WRs want to get better at, reps, reps, reps. Thats why I said whomever shows up over the summer will be the guy. If no one shows up, then we wont have a guy. Lil guys are different. They need to work on EVERYTHING, so you have them do the same drill over and over that whole day and the next day you work on something else. It still comes down to reps. Our pop warner teams are normally good cause we have at least 7-8 coaches on every team and they all show up EVERY DAY. More coaches = more reps = better team? We had 2 teams go to Disney for the national championships and one of them won it all(Junior Midget 2011 Pop Warner National Champs). Our junior Pee Wee lost on a last second play. Point I'm making is that we have summer camp(football) for a week every year and also have a track club that's related to the football program. Most of the track coaches are the football coaches and most of the runners are our football kids. A whole lot of the kids show for camp(250 strong) and I would say 1/3 run track. Off season reps, reps , reps. The Durham Eagles and the Capital City Steelers talk a lot of trash, but we(North Raleigh) have been beating them a lot lately because of our improved off season. Man this whole paragraph just reminded me that unless we playing night games I wont be traveling to Aggie stadium much this year.
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Post by ohsixrain on Jan 25, 2012 16:59:22 GMT -5
T. Warren has the tools but...as Bill Parcells say "Put away the annoiting oil! Now..." While I acknowledge he has the physical tools to be great at this level....he has a ways to go. My suggestion to him would be to work hard over the summer and then work hard some more. I don't mean to sound harsh or anything, but I cannot see greatness years away from now unless it's obvious. So, to say he'll be great, I can't tell until it is playing out on the field. So, let's get it.
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Post by ohsixrain on Jan 25, 2012 17:03:04 GMT -5
I was going to ask were you coaching for the Durham Eagles. Oh so it's North Raleigh...so there you have it....that's our recruiting grounds in 7-8 years from now.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Jan 25, 2012 17:05:58 GMT -5
I was going to ask were you coaching for the Durham Eagles. Oh so it's North Raleigh...so there you have it....that's our recruiting grounds in 7-8 years from now. LOL, I despise the Eagles. I where my A&T shirt underneath when we play them at NCCU to ward off the spirits, LOL. Yeah, I got a few that are already studs. They just have to keep their minds right. I rep A&T enough(probably to much), so they we'll know all about it. I'm hoping to have the right bye week, so I can take a group to Aggie Stadium during a big game. This past year our bye weeks were the same.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jan 25, 2012 17:06:25 GMT -5
monster, how do you train a receiver to make catches across the middle where you're likely to get "popped" or any catch in traffic for that matter? i figured you might know since you coach the little guys. but thru my experiences, i don't see how it can be taught, per se'. maybe its possible to bulk a guy up somewhat so that he can withstand contact better, i dunno. but i think its more mental than physical when it comes to catching passes in traffic. what's your take? It's the same with any other thing WRs want to get better at, reps, reps, reps. Thats why I said whomever shows up over the summer will be the guy. If no one shows up, then we wont have a guy. Lil guys are different. They need to work on EVERYTHING, so you have them do the same drill over and over that whole day and the next day you work on something else. It still comes down to reps. Our pop warner teams are normally good cause we have at least 7-8 coaches on every team and they all show up EVERY DAY. More coaches = more reps = better team? We had 2 teams go to Disney for the national championships and one of them won it all(Junior Midget 2011 Pop Warner National Champs). Our junior Pee Wee lost on a last second play. Point I'm making is that we have summer camp(football) for a week every year and also have a track club that's related to the football program. Most of the track coaches are the football coaches and most of the runners are our football kids. A whole lot of the kids show for camp(250 strong) and I would say 1/3 run track. Off season reps, reps , reps. The Durham Eagles and the Capital City Steelers talk a lot of trash, but we(North Raleigh) have been beating them a lot lately because of our improved off season. Man this whole paragraph just reminded me that unless we playing night games I wont be traveling to Aggie stadium much this year. so with off season reps, are you saying make a kid catch a bunch of passes repeatedly while in traffic and then hit his azz every time until he learns to catch balls while absorbing contact?
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