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Post by Aggie One on Jul 18, 2009 11:12:31 GMT -5
You need to watch it when you get some time. He's a steal for Eaves. His body is much bigger and quicker now than his high school film showed and he's a better ball handler as well. AAU and prep school ball against better competition helped him in that regard.
He'll play the 3 spot in college with a good shooting range with touch which is something you can't teach.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 18, 2009 14:17:13 GMT -5
oleschoolaggie You must be a basketball coach? Lets wait and see him in game before you start w the negative comments give him a chance!! aggieman, i've already admitted i could be absolutely wrong about the kid and i've already stated that only time will tell if i'm right or wrong. i'm not trying to be negative. if anything, i probably praise aggie recruits more than i should. i'm just stating an honest "premature" opinion of the kid based on his stats in high school, the 2A classification level that he played in high school, and one high school highlight video of him that i saw last night for the first time. that's all i know about him. i've never seen him play in person, i've never seen him play an entire game, and i've never seen him play against taller players. so there's an awful lot that i don't know about him. i would never claim that a "premature" opinion of mine is a proven fact. so like i said, i could be completely wrong about the kid. and ya know what else? i was very impressed with upchurch when i first heard eaves signed him. but i could be completely wrong about him too. man, i just give my honest opinion of recruits with the understanding that i could be as wrong as the next guy. but i'm not gonna act like a kid is a superstar if i really don't think he is. last year, i was right about marc hill and wrong about nic simpson. so i've never claimed to be mel kiper...
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Post by truthseeker on Jul 18, 2009 15:55:33 GMT -5
OS...don't know if I would call it a stretch if he avg 14 pts and 4 rbs per game with one year of JUCO...remember duane Joshua... yeah, but i lived in massachusetts for 3 years and i know for a fact that the competition up there is not stiff. its a small state, but even if you include all of new england, you're not gonna find too many standout ballers in that part of the country. and if i'm not mistaken, the school that he went to is a prep school, not a juco. but your point is well taken, i could be completely wrong. but i just don't have a lot of respect for 2A competition. i averaged 10 ppg as a senior in high school at the 4A level but when we played a rare occasional game against a 2A team, it was like playing against a jv team. to me, 17 ppg against 2A competition translates to about 10 ppg or less against 4A competition. obviously, i hope for the best. but on paper, i'm not very impressed... you never faced little 2A elm city in high school... they would give any 4A school they played fits... heck they would split with 4A rocky mount during the days of phil ford & buck williams...!!!! & besides jj miller came from a small hs...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Jul 18, 2009 16:04:31 GMT -5
yeah, but i lived in massachusetts for 3 years and i know for a fact that the competition up there is not stiff. its a small state, but even if you include all of new england, you're not gonna find too many standout ballers in that part of the country. and if i'm not mistaken, the school that he went to is a prep school, not a juco. but your point is well taken, i could be completely wrong. but i just don't have a lot of respect for 2A competition. i averaged 10 ppg as a senior in high school at the 4A level but when we played a rare occasional game against a 2A team, it was like playing against a jv team. to me, 17 ppg against 2A competition translates to about 10 ppg or less against 4A competition. obviously, i hope for the best. but on paper, i'm not very impressed... you never faced little 2A elm city in high school... they would give any 4A school they played fits... heck they would split with 4A rocky mount during the days of phil ford & buck williams...!!!! & besides jj miller came from a small hs... like i said, its just my opinion, that doesn't make it a fact. i'm not saying "every" 2A team is weak. there's always exceptions to the rule. but "typically" 2A teams can't touch 4A teams. i dunno, maybe things have changed since i was in high school over two decades ago, but back then 2A teams resembled jv teams to me. again, time will tell. i seriously hope i'm wrong. but i'm basing my opinion on my own personal experience...
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Post by truthseeker on Jul 18, 2009 16:06:23 GMT -5
well i hope its no more than a 2 year extension. aahhbigboy is gonna love that news... 4yrs... remember he is nabc coach of the yr... so somebody knows what aahhbigboy doesn't... & besides the administration is weaning itself away from listening to certain types of opinion out there... that's one reason how they got in trouble with football... listening to people who they all thought knew... but they didn't...
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Post by Maxell on Jul 18, 2009 23:02:09 GMT -5
Primary Position: Small Forward Secondary Position: Shooting Guard Key Statistics: Massanutten numbers: 13.52ppg, 4 rpg, 2 apg, 39% 3pt., Basketball Honors: 1,100 career points First team All-conference SO, JR, SR year 2008 Conference Player of the year (CVAC) SR 2008 - 3rd team all Peidmont Region SR 2008 1st team Hickory Daily Record All Unifour team SR 2007 Averaged 18 ppg in AAU 17U (Charlotte Clippers) Bio: I am left handed,athletic and long; I have primarly played the 2-3 and can shoot the 3 very well. I consider my self a play maker and a very good ball handler especially for my size. Last season I led my high school team in scoring, assist, rebounds, and steals. I need to develop my body and mid range jumper. I will be graduating from Newton-Conover High School in Newton,NC this year. I have signed to attend Massanutten Military Academy (Woodstock VA) for a post Grad year to help raise my stock amongst Major D-1 Schools. So colleges please come check out at Massanutten(08-09) season. collegecoaches.net/99/profile.aspx I looked at some of the video from three games. Plus: - can hit the open three ball - always makes good shot selections - sees the floor well and makes good passes - seems to understand the game - can block shots with good sense of timing Minus: - contrary to his own assessment, is not very athletic by DI standards - slow feet, defensive liability on an athletic small forward - will not help you on the boards very much Overall: His shooting and basketball IQ will make him an asset but must work on strength and quickness.
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Post by Aggie One on Jul 19, 2009 8:02:19 GMT -5
Projecting is one thing and playing is something totally different. Mid major teams rarely get top 50 kids so that train left the station a long time ago. The bottom line is he has way more upside and any liabilities he does have are correctable through development and maturation.
His size, shooting ability, passing, and inside defense at 6-6 or 6-7 at the 2-spot can't be discounted. He can play.
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Post by Maxell on Jul 19, 2009 13:03:22 GMT -5
A1, I see you took a swig of the Aggie juice aahbigboy talks about. He's not ready to defend at the 2 spot at all, but the kid does have upside though.
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Post by aggieman007 on Jul 19, 2009 14:38:57 GMT -5
maxell
post the link
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Post by aahhbigboy on Jul 19, 2009 15:43:56 GMT -5
I've been trying to just read and move on but I couldn't resist logging in for this one. lol
First of all, Truthseeker is the biggest fraud up here. Not even worth replying to.
But, I have a rule in my house. It's called the "Say it out loud" rule. Say this out loud, and I mean really........say this out loud.
"Eaves just signed a 6'7" 2-guard that can play."
Now, doesn't that just sound wrong based on what you know? 6'7" 2-guards that played 4 years of high school in NC (on any level) AND had an extra year of prep school are mediocre AT BEST if they land in the MEAC. I don't care if Bozeman signed the kid. Eaves is a fair-to-slightly below average coach. Why do you think he could sign studs overnight? He's given you six years of proof. And the leaders at T aren't focused on winning championships, so his extension is to be expected. Eaves will be here for the next 10-15 years because he is a master at convincing idiots that he knows what he's doing. I respect him for that.
The Aggie Juice is in full effect with some of you guys...........so in other words, nothing has changed.
lol
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Post by Maxell on Jul 19, 2009 15:52:10 GMT -5
collegecoaches.net/99/profile.aspxGo to this link and click on the MEDIA tab. There are four videos. One of high school highlights and three complete games of prep school.
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Post by thefriscotxaggie on Jul 19, 2009 21:57:43 GMT -5
He may be average to above average but this kid could be very good in a couple of years. Regardless of the level of comp this kid has a nice stroke. There are not many two guards in any league that can challenge the shot of a 6'7" two guard. Again everybody cant go to a major Div 1 there are only so many spots. This guy reminds me of Chuckie Beckton and he did play at T. 6'7 two guard / small forward so how is it not possible. Ahhbigboy you cant make a statement without trashing Eaves. It makes your evaluations less creditable.
Ahhbigboy maybe I missed your take on Upchurch and Witter as well.
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Post by aahhbigboy on Jul 20, 2009 12:29:43 GMT -5
Ahhbigboy you cant make a statement without trashing Eaves. It makes your evaluations less creditable. Ahhbigboy maybe I missed your take on Upchurch and Witter as well. I don't think I necessarily "trashed" the guy. And how does what I said make that post less creditable. To me, anybody that supports a proven loser makes THAT guy less creditable. I'm criticizing someone who hasn't won anything!!!!!!!!!!!! And I don't make random, baseless statements. So that is why I really haven't had anything to say about Upchurch and Witter. I would be talking out of ignorance. However, I've stated that Eaves does get an A+ on signing kids this year that you can find info on. Previously, he really struggled to do that. Maybe that's a good start. Who knows?
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Post by Bigboy on Jul 20, 2009 12:55:56 GMT -5
Upchurch and Amber Calvin will be playing in the East-West All Star games tonight at the coliseum. I know it's hard to judge a player from an all star game performance but at least you can spot potential. Who's going out to watch the games tonight??
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Post by cnixon79 on Jul 24, 2009 12:21:26 GMT -5
Adrian Powell played in 2A/3A conference. He was a very unselfish player that did everything for his team. He's very versatile and plays different positions. He's excellent 3 point shooter, and a underrated ballhandler. Adrian is also an excellent passer. At massanutten he had a 23 point game against the #2 ranked prep school in the country (Patterson School). I think that Adrian will be a surprise to his critics when he get's to aggie land
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