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Post by truthseeker on May 24, 2009 14:19:13 GMT -5
hampton doesn't play guaranteed gms because they fund their program... outside of uva... everyone else hampton plays is home & home... they even had a home & home with unc... but when it came time to go to hampton... roy bought out the contract & the tarheels went to odu instead... bosemans schedule had good balance... they played about the same # of guaranteed gms that we did... & they played mid-majors on a home & home... aahhbigboy... you surprise me... there are other reasons why fang & jackson play so many guaranteed gms... i thought you knew that... but even fang & jackson tried to have a little balance by playing their tournament with the D-II schools... where they swapped opponents...
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Post by DECKS on May 24, 2009 23:12:16 GMT -5
Okaaay, it's time I told you guys the truth (someone's gotta do it) about this recruiting class. The truth is this class barely rates a C- and that might be a little generous.
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Post by aggie62 on May 24, 2009 23:37:31 GMT -5
DECKS,
Who's in the 2009 men's basketball class? I haven't seen a list of our recruits like Coach Lee published his football recruits with a small writeup on each, have you???
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Post by aahhbigboy on May 26, 2009 11:13:20 GMT -5
Okaaay, it's time I told you guys the truth (someone's gotta do it) about this recruiting class. The truth is this class barely rates a C- and that might be a little generous. Why do you say that? I'm skeptical myself, but I havent' noticed any red flags.
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Post by aggie62 on May 26, 2009 12:21:07 GMT -5
I repeat my question, "officially, who's in the class of 2009?". We have basketball recruits that are not official and football coaches that are not official. It makes me wonder what's going on at the 'T' these days, things seem more speculation than fact? Kinda like the 'CJ Penny' recruitment.
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Post by aggie75 on May 26, 2009 14:44:27 GMT -5
Okaaay, it's time I told you guys the truth (someone's gotta do it) about this recruiting class. The truth is this class barely rates a C- and that might be a little generous. OK........but I'm going to assume that you have seen each recruit play.
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Post by DECKS on May 27, 2009 22:52:11 GMT -5
I repeat my question, "officially, who's in the class of 2009?". We have basketball recruits that are not official and football coaches that are not official. It makes me wonder what's going on at the 'T' these days, things seem more speculation than fact? Kinda like the 'CJ Penny' recruitment. Nothing is official until the school issues a press release. I suspect Eaves may still be trying to wait on one more kid.
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Post by DECKS on May 27, 2009 23:06:21 GMT -5
Okaaay, it's time I told you guys the truth (someone's gotta do it) about this recruiting class. The truth is this class barely rates a C- and that might be a little generous. Why do you say that? I'm skeptical myself, but I havent' noticed any red flags. 1. Notice our competition in recruiting most of these kids. 2. Most of the info on em comes from local hometown news media. 3. Look at Howards recruiting class and look at ours. I'm not saying they won't be successful because you can't measure heart but just that some of us are getting a little to excited over a very mediocre class.
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Post by aahhbigboy on May 28, 2009 7:08:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree with that Decks....wholeheartedly. But that's always the case. I've noticed that almost everybody up here is excited for "Anything Aggie". But like I said, I'm skeptical b/c Eaves hasn't proven that he and his staff can recruit. You bring up good points, especially about the local media.
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Post by Gator on May 28, 2009 7:42:42 GMT -5
Decks,
Is those 3 areas your criteria for giving a grade of C-? If so, I can't quite by into that as being a solid justification. It's vary rare we'll get a kid that can come in contribute effectively as a freshmen. Then again, we just might get lucky. I should hope Eaves is doing a lot of work to help develop those bigman and guards, so that they'll be ready to carry the weight when the season begins.
I guess we'll all just have to wait and see.
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Post by Aggie Monster on May 28, 2009 7:45:26 GMT -5
Why do you say that? I'm skeptical myself, but I havent' noticed any red flags. 1. Notice our competition in recruiting most of these kids. 2. Most of the info on em comes from local hometown news media. 3. Look at Howards recruiting class and look at ours. I'm not saying they won't be successful because you can't measure heart but just that some of us are getting a little to excited over a very mediocre class. Name a MEAC team that has a class you can "REALLY" be sure about? That's the nature of MEAC/Mid Major basketball. 1) It's Eaves job and everyone else in Mid Majors to find "Diamonds in the rough". With the abundance of media and information now not many Div1 talented kids actually slip down to Mid Major in Basketball unless the school is very good academically. 2) There aren't to many kids playing in the MEAC that were mentioned outside of their local media. At least ours have gotten decent grades from the local Rivals or MaxPreps scout. There are Hundreds of basketball recruits every year. Only about 50 get air time outside of their local media and that's being generous. I would say its more like the top 30-40. 3) Haven't seen nor heard anything about Howard's bball recruits, so I cant speak on that.
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Post by aggiejazz on May 28, 2009 8:18:35 GMT -5
I've noticed that almost everybody up here is excited for "Anything Aggie". . Most Aggies would seemed overly excited compared to you. Giving letter grades to recruiting classes or draft picks are for entertainment purposes only. It doesn't mean there aren't good and bad recruiting years. HBCUs normally end up getting good kids with low talent and drive or talented kids whose world is teetering on collapsing. I don't go to AAU basketball tournaments anymore. A friend of mine that still goes to help his alma mater in recruiting says it is getting harder and harder for mid-majors to get those above-average players because of the AAU exposure. The bigger schools and schools with bigger budgets lock these players up. This is why I stopped going to AAU tournaments unless I personally know a player. Bozeman uses his "Cal-PAC Ten and Jason Kidd" calling card to get players and yet, he has gotten two players he is rolling the dice on because of a serious injury by one player and personal disappointment by the other player at a mid-major school. I am still waiting for a final recruiting announcement by Coach Eaves and his Sports Information Director.
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Post by aahhbigboy on May 28, 2009 8:37:24 GMT -5
Decks, Eaves is doing a lot of work to help develop those bigman and guards, so that they'll be ready to carry the weight when the season begins. I guess we'll all just have to wait and see. Like Coleman right?
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 28, 2009 8:40:02 GMT -5
folks, when we start basing our opinions of lower tier d1 recruits on internet scouting reports, i've got some land in alaska that i'd like to sale you!
case in point, thomas coleman. coleman wasn't rated at all by rivals and coleman only had one other d1 offer (that i'm aware of) other than a&t. xavier was looking at him but never offered. yet, coleman could arguably be our team's most valuable player. but based on rivals, he's not a good recruit.
another case in point, nic simpson. simpson was rated 2 stars by rivals.com last year which implies he's a better recruit than coleman. would you trade simpson for coleman? simpson should have been redshirted last year! i saw "nothing" remotely close to being 2 stars in simpson's game!
the bottom line is most mid to lower tier recruits are not scouted as heavily as the top players are and thus, reports of their talent level is not reliable. we simply have to wait and see how these lower tier recruits turn out...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on May 28, 2009 8:54:57 GMT -5
and here's another point about internet ratings. remember that "top 50" recruiting class that hampton had? you know, the one that completely out distanced all other meac classes? remember? no other meac class was ranked in the top 100, much less the top 50. yet, that team never produced an meac regular season nor tournament championship and was very mediocre last season.
do you still want to trust internet scouting reports?
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