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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 26, 2008 19:24:09 GMT -5
I just wanted to add my two cents again about recruiting....yesterday i had the opportunity to take a couple of local players (sophs) over to unc-g for a campus tour and to their inter squad scrimmage. It was first class all the way....We met at the gym, and then the AD, Head Coach, and Academic Counselor spoke to the group of about 25 athletes and their parents.. We then proceeded over to the Greensboro Coliseum for a tour because after this season, UNC-G will play all of their games at the Coliseum... Next we toured the campus and then went to the game... My only question is, why cant we do something like this? With athletes making verbals at the start of their junior year, we have to be more proactive...Again, just my two cents worth.. Aggie82, what you have there is complete cooperation within UNCG hierarchy. A&T doesn't have that. This is not a coach's problem, it is a university problem at A&T. A&T can't get their University Day straight until the last minute. A&T has a whole school year to get next year's University Day straight and I guarantee, come next school year I still will not be able to get a straight answer out of A&T's recruitment department about University Day until about 3 weeks out just like this year and the last two or three years. BTW y'all, the coaches of UNCG, High Point and Elon refused to play us in the Dawg Pound. Those coaches even refuse to even discuss having a game with A&T. Aggie82, ask the UNCG coach the next time you see him why he refuses to play A&T in Dawg Pound. In fact ask all the local mid-level D-I coaches that question.
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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 26, 2008 19:33:46 GMT -5
Fourth place is as high as we'll see. You say we've been stable the last 2 years? Man, we've been 56% in conference play. Congratulations Aahhbigboy, you finally got something correct in your statements. You even have this year's team doing better than I wanted to predict. Not bad for an incompetent coach. I'm not saying we have the best coach in the MEAC but Eaves is far from the worst. If you want better you have to pay for it, anyone else without a track record and you are rolling the dice.
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Post by Maxell on Oct 26, 2008 21:16:16 GMT -5
BTW yall, the coaches of UNCG, High Point and Elon refused to play us in the Dawg Pound. Those coaches even refuse to even discuss having a game with A&T. Why? We play their women's teams.
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Post by aahhbigboy on Oct 26, 2008 21:42:51 GMT -5
Fourth place is as high as we'll see. You say we've been stable the last 2 years? Man, we've been 56% in conference play. Congratulations Aahhbigboy, you finally got something correct in your statements. You even have this year's team doing better than I wanted to predict. Not bad for an incompetent coach. I'm not saying we have the best coach in the MEAC but Eaves is far from the worst. If you want better you have to pay for it, anyone else without a track record and you are rolling the dice. KEEP DREAMING. lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was saying 4th place is the best we'll ever see.........EVER! LOL Get real.
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Post by aahhbigboy on Oct 26, 2008 21:50:29 GMT -5
BTW y'all, the coaches of UNCG, High Point and Elon refused to play us in the Dawg Pound. Those coaches even refuse to even discuss having a game with A&T. Aggie82, ask the UNCG coach the next time you see him why he refuses to play A&T in Dawg Pound. In fact ask all the local mid-level D-I coaches that question. No Jazz, lol, it's not because they think they would lose. It's because they are looking up, not down. That's why NO mid major will play us in the Dog Pound. Not just the locals. Think about it, anyone that plays the men's team in Corbett is either in the MEAC or is straight garbage (like these cupcakes Eaves) brings in. Just think about it for a minute. And for the record, we wouldn't stand a chance againts any mid major in our area. Jazz, you are drunk on the Aggie Juice brother. lol It clouds all of your posts. lol Now, the girls are a different story. People across the country know that Bibbs and Company aren't playing with their @ss. The coaches are out recruiting schools with ten times their budget. These teams KNOW that if they come into Corbett, it's a wrap. If it weren't for the zebras, Liberty would be able to tell you all about it. lol But forget about the men's team.
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Post by Gator on Oct 28, 2008 13:28:15 GMT -5
I think there is an alarm at the gate with that statement. Is this guy a true Aggie?
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Post by aggie82 on Oct 28, 2008 14:56:33 GMT -5
i agree with you aggiejazz..."G" has had the same athletic director for over 20 years...Since they have no football program, they put a lot of money into their basketball program...They have a solid program, with a good AD...They even brought the same coach back when he left for more money....They are going to start playing all of their home games in the coliseum after this season....They are going to play NC State at home next year, along with Maryland and Clemson...However in 2010-11 there is a triad classic with A&T, High Point, and UNC-G....
I love my Aggies, but when i get out here and see how the majority universities in the area are doing things, it really ticks me off...
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Post by aahhbigboy on Oct 28, 2008 23:14:17 GMT -5
I think there is an alarm at the gate with that statement. Is this guy a true Aggie? What, because I can look at a program and tell you it's garbage, I'm not a true Aggie? I just don't kid myself, and every year, I'm never let down with Eaves' results. My thoughts are, consistently confirmed. So, school me, what's a true Aggie? Is Jazz a "true" Aggie because he supports Eaves blindly, even in the face of poor numbers. Is that what I have to do? I'm interested in learning. lol
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Post by Gator on Oct 29, 2008 8:11:29 GMT -5
People,
It's not just about Eaves, it's about supporting the athletic department as a whole. When we make the kind of comments that have been posted it's a clear most of us have a narrow minded assessment. People are sounding so determined to put A&T down before giving the program a chance. Knowone is perfect, but give it chance before you give up.
If UNC-G is for you and those kids, so be it. We'd like to have you, but we don't need you.
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Post by Gator on Oct 29, 2008 8:13:06 GMT -5
If it ticks you off, do something about it! Call or email the AD as voice your concerns. Don't just come up here and b*tch!
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Post by aahhbigboy on Oct 29, 2008 8:33:05 GMT -5
People, It's not just about Eaves, it's about supporting the athletic department as a whole. When we make the kind of comments that have been posted it's a clear most of us have a narrow minded assessment. People are sounding so determined to put A&T down before giving the program a chance. Knowone is perfect, but give it chance before you give up. If UNC-G is for you and those kids, so be it. We'd like to have you, but we don't need you. What??? Is this not an opinionated site? Is this not a place to post what you THINK about what you SEE?? Then what are you talking about? You give a coach 5 years and his winning percentage is 38% in-conference. His predecessor had a 1 win season and even his winning percentage was 43%. How is that a narrow minded assessment? It sounds like the guy that doesn't want to hear it (that means you) has more of a narrow minded and naive assessment to me. So, if that is what a "true" Aggie is, then I guess you're right, I'm not one. The only problem is, my undergrad degree says otherwise. Sorry. lol And what is all this "we" this and "we" that? Your name has "member" beside it. Are you the spokesperson? No one told me.
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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 29, 2008 9:52:53 GMT -5
Eaves mandate when he first got to A&T was do the best he can with the limited funds and play guarantee games and so we can take the money to fund the athletic budget. Men's basketball budget has been almost equal to its revenue. Don't be fooled by that though because if Eaves were to play more guarantee games it would not mean an increase to his budget because his budget is capped by the administration.
A&T's #1 profit margin maker can't get top treatment from the adminstration and never has gotten it even when Corbett was the coach. Men's basketball has been used as revenue stream for the athletic department but has never been treated like a rainmaker.
The last two years Eaves is over .500 in the conference and that is what counts in my book. If Aaghhbigboy wants more, then he can buy Eaves out and hire someone else that he thinks can gurantee a MEAC championship.
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Post by aahhbigboy on Oct 29, 2008 10:05:54 GMT -5
Eaves mandate when he first got to A&T was do the best he can with the limited funds and play guarantee games and so we can take the money to fund the athletic budget. Men's basketball budget has been almost equal to its revenue. Don't be fooled by that though because if Eaves were to play more guarantee games it would not mean an increase to his budget because his budget is capped by the administration. A&T's #1 profit margin maker can't get top treatment from the adminstration and never has gotten it even when Corbett was the coach. Men's basketball has been used as revenue stream for the athletic department but has never been treated like a rainmaker. The last two years Eaves is over .500 in the conference and that is what counts in my book. If Aaghhbigboy wants more, then he can buy Eaves out and hire someone else that he thinks can gurantee a MEAC championship. I never have to put much into discrediting your defense of Eaves, so here it goes.... Based on what you say about budgets and all that garbage.....then that should mean our girls team should be terrible and NOT picked to win the conference and should NOT be recognized nationally. That's based on what you just posted. You know why that's not the case? They have a staff that knows what the heck recruiting is about. Pure and simple. There are teams all across the nation that are out performing their piss-poor budgets. What they DON'T have......is a fan base willing to put up with poorly performing coaches. But guess who does? For the record, I never said I wanted a championship. Never. I said I wanted higher standards, i.e. more than a top-4 finish, more than 1 win in the tournament, more than not knowing what to expect from year to year. That's all. But hey, let's just hope we're slightly over .500 right? That's like living in the projects and only hoping that you son/daughter reaches 50% of their potential. Bibbs and company are living in the same projects with less money and her kids are going to Harvard.
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Post by aggiejazz on Oct 29, 2008 10:22:32 GMT -5
What you don't understand is that I have enough sense not to compare Coach Bibbs to Coach Eaves.
Coach Bibbs already had championship titles in the MEAC and SWAC. A&T got Coach Bibbs after Chancellor Renick personally went after her. Chancellor Renick personally went after men's basketball coaches who had a proven record but quickly found out he couldn't afford them. Fact, coaches of men's basketball make more money than coaches of women's basketball.
There in lies the difference. So pay up or shut up. Its just that simple.
A&T is getting their value out of men's basketball. A&T didn't get it out of football and may never get it unless they hire another Hayes. Coach Bibbs has brought A&T to the threshold of a championship title (only the tournament really counts these days) and this year she is looking to kick the door open.
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Post by aahhbigboy on Oct 29, 2008 10:36:24 GMT -5
I've gotta admit that we are getting what we pay for, to a certain extent. But what I am saying is the Eaves doesn't have a fundamental knowledge of what it takes to win in this conference. Look at Norfolk's coach. He took the job on an interim basis and has done what Eaves couldn't do in 5 years (top 3 finish). Fang had very little talent and won the conference. It doesn't take much. But if you don't have know-how, then you really don't have anything. That's why I compare Eaves to Bibbs. She obviously KNOWS HOW to get it done. He doesn't, and what I'm saying is if HE DOESN'T, then why is he here? ? Kinda like Fobbs, but not quite as bad.
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