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Post by aahhbigboy on Mar 5, 2008 17:00:01 GMT -5
Everything posted makes for interesting reading but "what has he done for me lately" and where is the program headed? Nothing and right where the football program is. lol
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Post by DiehardAggie70 on Mar 5, 2008 17:11:52 GMT -5
How does Hunt's overall percentage compare to Eaves'? I don't have access to that info. I don't know but I'd guess Hunter has the better record. Hunter 39W/75L=.342 Eaves 44W/104L=.297
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Post by Aggie77 on Mar 5, 2008 18:46:14 GMT -5
I must admit you have a point. Hunter 99/00:..14-15 00/01:..13-17 01/02:..11-17 02/03:…1-26 39-75 34.2%
Eaves 03-04:..3-25 04/05:...6-24 05/06:...6-23 06/07:.15-17 14-17:..14-17 (est) 44-106 29.3%
However, I'm probably the only person that thinks the team will be better next year.
1.) New players, new year, new mindset 2.) A smaller player rotation 3.) Ed Jones, Thomas Coleman a year wiser 4.) A better balance of players by position 5.) A balance offensive attack 6.) A legitmate PG (Marc Hill) and SG (Nic Simpson) 7.) A lesson's learn season for Coach 8.) Only Morgan & Hampton to really worry about
I know, wishful thinking.
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Post by DECKS on Mar 5, 2008 18:52:15 GMT -5
I think if we play the same style we're going to get the same results. It would be a blessing if Marc Hill and Nic Simpson can't shoot three pointers.
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Post by aahhbigboy on Mar 5, 2008 19:44:27 GMT -5
I must admit you have a point. Hunter 99/00:..14-15 00/01:..13-17 01/02:..11-17 02/03:…1-26 39-75 34.2% Eaves 03-04:..3-25 04/05:...6-24 05/06:...6-23 06/07:.15-17 14-17:..14-17 (est) 44-106 29.3% However, I'm probably the only person that thinks the team will be better next year. 1.) New players, new year, new mindset 2.) A smaller player rotation 3.) Ed Jones, Thomas Coleman a year wiser 4.) A better balance of players by position 5.) A balance offensive attack 6.) A legitmate PG (Marc Hill) and SG (Nic Simpson) 7.) A lesson's learn season for Coach 8.) Only Morgan & Hampton to really worry about I know, wishful thinking. The backcourt will be freshman, not unless Tavaris starts. I'm hearing good things about Hill, but the kid is 5'6". He will only be able to do so much. But look at those percentages. How in the world did Eaves get an extension after those first 3 years? I can't take it, I need a drink.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Mar 5, 2008 20:40:25 GMT -5
However, I'm probably the only person that thinks the team will be better next year. 1.) New players, new year, new mindset 2.) A smaller player rotation 3.) Ed Jones, Thomas Coleman a year wiser 4.) A better balance of players by position 5.) A balance offensive attack 6.) A legitmate PG (Marc Hill) and SG (Nic Simpson) 7.) A lesson's learn season for Coach 8.) Only Morgan & Hampton to really worry about I know, wishful thinking. Your not the only one. See my private forum post.
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Post by Aggie77 on Mar 6, 2008 16:00:42 GMT -5
The backcourt will be freshman, not unless Tavaris starts. I'm hearing good things about Hill, but the kid is 5'6". He will only be able to do so much. But look at those percentages. How in the world did Eaves get an extension after those first 3 years? I can't take it, I need a drink. Yeah but, the first two years were clean-up from the nuclear disaster. Unfortunately, based on this year’s results we may have reached the high ground and may be stuck here awhile be we continue the ascent. I think those freshmen guards will be solid contributors early, especially after the money games. So when the MEAC schedule rolls in they should be ready. They both come out of winning programs against decent competition. Of the known recruits coming in next year, Dwane Joshua is the only one I can’t find any info about the outcome his season.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Mar 6, 2008 16:08:11 GMT -5
Teenagers lie, spouses lie, numbers don't.
34.2% vs. 29.3%
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Post by DOOMS on Mar 7, 2008 8:00:12 GMT -5
Of course, Eaves' early record is directly attributable to Hunter's record the previous year. I don't remember offhand, but I don't think that Hunter inherited a one-win team and had to play a bunch of walk-ons his first two years.
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Post by aggiejazz on Mar 7, 2008 8:30:00 GMT -5
If Eaves is going to have a better brand of clay next year then I will expect to see better sculptures. Better sculptures via the use of good molding techniques (coaching).
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Post by aahhbigboy on Mar 7, 2008 9:13:47 GMT -5
Of course, Eaves' early record is directly attributable to Hunter's record the previous year. I don't remember offhand, but I don't think that Hunter inherited a one-win team and had to play a bunch of walk-ons his first two years. I've gotta admit, that's a heckuva point. Even with that being said, in our conference, it only takes one year of recruiting to win the entire conference. Ask Todd Bozeman. Furthermore,Jack did it at Del State in like 2-3 years with inferior facilities.
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Post by DOOMS on Mar 7, 2008 10:11:54 GMT -5
Which one of them got a depleted one-win team? And remember, Del State spends ridiculous money on athletics. Jackson was promised that support when he took the job and they followed through. Bozeman also is getting a lot more support than Morgan has historically given. Meanwhile Eaves takes a lot less than he was worth and a one-win team and gets us to where we expect to win. The next step is actually winning.
I ain't defending Eaves, I'm just saying we have to look at the totality of the evidence. I'm of the opinion the six win team of his early tenure was much better coached. They played some D. It's like the amount of coaching is inversely proportional to the talent level.
I don’t like reading “next year we’ll be this that and the other.” What about the guys that are there now? They don’t have to win every game, but I would like to see a maximizing of potential. I think it’s very strong to say that the days of coordinating pocket square are back, because he won less and less each year. Eaves has gotten better each year (granted, he padded with cupcakes this year). He seems to have leveled off around .500 and that’s not acceptable, but I don’t think he’s in over his head and I don’t think he’ll keep us at .500. I think a few additional resources will help him achieve the type of record we all hope for.
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Post by truthseeker on Mar 7, 2008 14:41:23 GMT -5
aahhbigboy... i would like for you to tell me who in their right mind would start their coaching career in a program with no players & 4 scholarships... rome wasn't built in a day but rome got richer by the day...
i'm an advocate of common sense... if a coach has your program competetive while working with nothing... then the only logical step is to get him working with something... all these coaches here who have built with nothing & the only one getting outside help is fobbs... go figure...
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Post by aahhbigboy on Mar 7, 2008 23:37:11 GMT -5
Man, it only takes 2 players. You don't need a full team to win in the MEAC. Morgan only had like 6-8 players last year and they won the conference this year with only a couple of changes. That tells me he is workng over the summer. Eaves doesn't even have to leave the state to finish in the top 3 in the MEAC. And I'm so tired of the resources argument that I don't know what to do. Here are 5 things Eaves can do starting today that will bring home a championship in 2-3 years.
1. Focus on 3 studs every year (Major D-1 transfers and High school kids only). Even if 1 signs, you greatly increase your chances of winning in the MEAC.
2. Leave the JUCO kids alone. They only give you 2 years and if they are coming to MEAC, chances are they are still developing.
3. Go to all of the State games and aau tournaments in the area. I go to several and I've never seen Eaves or Keyes there. Never.
4 Stop playing so many people. You can't consistently play 11-12 people a game and expect any kind of continuity. Furthermore, the kids lack confidence because they are not allowed to play through their mistakes without looking over their shoulder.
5. Consult with someone and get a REAL strength and conditioning program. Our players (especially the frontcourt) always seem to look weak compared to other teams.
These 5 things don't require anymore resources than Eaves already gets. If we can get him off the golf course and out of Kentucky recruiting, we may be able to do something. We don't need all those resources everyone keeps talking about.
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Post by numberonebrave on Mar 8, 2008 11:24:52 GMT -5
D-1 transfers have to sit out a year...so you pay for one more year than you actually get..if you can get a stud D-1 transfer or HS player, why can't you get a stud juco player? chances are they are still developing? ? Any more so than the D-1 transfer or HS player??? You imply that any player NCAT gets will still be developing if they are coming to the MEAC...Coleman is from Ky as was Booker...both were/are superior players..but I agree the lack of resources arguement is weak...recruit NC better.
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