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Post by A&T-roy on Apr 15, 2024 10:05:23 GMT -5
On the outside (not down there with 1st-hand access to what was going on) looking in, it looked bad.
But from another source (not Kev), that WAS there, the ambulance was called out of an abundance of caution.
I don't know what level of "practice" that NEEDS an ambulance on site because there could be a "serious" issue (heat exhaustion, heart attack, etc.) even in non-contact.
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Post by aggierattler on Apr 15, 2024 10:07:05 GMT -5
When I posted this last night, I predicted that by 12Noon on Monday, someone would divert what I said and take it way into left field. I just didn't think that it would be more than one.
I never said that we need to have an ambulance at practices or weekday scrimmages. The head trainer and other certified trainers on staff do a magnificent job of handling injuries on a day-to-day basis. NFL teams don't have paramedics on-site at their regular in-season practices.
But we do need them at our football games...whether there is a NC law requiring it or not. This is for the health and well-being of our players. And this was a game.
This is just common sense, guys.
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Post by A&T-roy on Apr 15, 2024 10:13:58 GMT -5
When I posted this last night, I predicted that by 12Noon on Monday, someone would divert what I said and take it way into left field. I just didn't think that it would be more than one.
I never said that we need to have an ambulance at practices or weekday scrimmages. The head trainer and other certified trainers on staff do a magnificent job of handling injuries on a day-to-day basis. NFL teams don't have paramedics on-site at their regular in-season practices.
But we do need them at our football games...whether there is a NC law requiring it or not. This is for the health and well-being of our players. And this was a game.
This is just common sense, guys. It was NOT a "game". One way you know is that the QBs weren't supposed to be hit. It was just a "glorified" practice/scrimmage where more than the normal number of people were there/invited to see.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 15, 2024 10:18:24 GMT -5
On the outside (not down there with 1st-hand access to what was going on) looking in, it looked bad. But from another source (not Kev), that WAS there, the ambulance was called out of an abundance of caution. I don't know what level of "practice" that NEEDS an ambulance on site because there could be a "serious" issue (heat exhaustion, heart attack, etc.) even in non-contact. First of all, this was not just a normal practice. This was a major, well-publicized sporting event on campus that should have been treated like a real game. The school even said they were trying to raise the stakes this year and make it a bigtime event. When you promote and host an event that draws over 2,000 spectators, you should have the full array of EMS and medical staff on standby - if only for any crowd-related incidents. This is not just about something unexpecting happening on the field. What if somebody got hurt in the stands and needed immediate medical attention? When you attempt to put on a major event and invite the general public, you need to ready for any scenario.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Apr 15, 2024 10:22:08 GMT -5
On the outside (not down there with 1st-hand access to what was going on) looking in, it looked bad. But from another source (not Kev), that WAS there, the ambulance was called out of an abundance of caution. I don't know what level of "practice" that NEEDS an ambulance on site because there could be a "serious" issue (heat exhaustion, heart attack, etc.) even in non-contact. And we NEVER need another kid passing out or worse due to heat exhaustion.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Apr 15, 2024 10:27:43 GMT -5
When I posted this last night, I predicted that by 12Noon on Monday, someone would divert what I said and take it way into left field. I just didn't think that it would be more than one.
I never said that we need to have an ambulance at practices or weekday scrimmages. The head trainer and other certified trainers on staff do a magnificent job of handling injuries on a day-to-day basis. NFL teams don't have paramedics on-site at their regular in-season practices.
But we do need them at our football games...whether there is a NC law requiring it or not. This is for the health and well-being of our players. And this was a game.
This is just common sense, guys. It was NOT a "game". One way you know is that the QBs weren't supposed to be hit. It was just a "glorified" practice/scrimmage where more than the normal number of people were there/invited to see. Whenever you are going full-speed as you would in a game in the fall, you need EMT on standby, not just trainers. That goes for Scrimmages and the Spring Game. Anything else, you shouldn't be doing full-speed tackling and hitting. And contrary to popular belief, you can teach proper tacking techniques without going full-speed. I played High School ball and we had some pretty nasty injuries that required ambulances. Shoot, i remember one practice we had the entire team performing full-speed, open field tackles on kickoffs where coaches manufactured collisions after running full speed about 50 yards. So many kids got hurt that day, we had to cancel practice for a few days just so we could heal up before our first game of the season.
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Post by A&T AGGIE 96 on Apr 15, 2024 10:35:41 GMT -5
Reading this thread shows me a lot of people like to make assumptions and make statements with little facts This happens a lot in on this board, in the media, and in life. We have all done it at times, but in the age of social media it's getting out of control.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 15, 2024 10:41:52 GMT -5
Go down the end of this street, take a right, and you are literally at the stadium. It should not take 25 minutes for a EMS/ firetruck to get on the scene.
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Post by The Professor on Apr 15, 2024 11:29:06 GMT -5
Was anyone able to tell the type of injury it was? Head, Neck or Back...or something else? Neck injury
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Post by The Professor on Apr 15, 2024 11:29:58 GMT -5
Go down the end of this street, take a right, and you are literally at the stadium. It should not take 25 minutes for a EMS/ firetruck to get on the scene. Fire trucks don't come out of the front , they come out of the back on warehouse street
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Post by A&T-roy on Apr 15, 2024 11:31:19 GMT -5
On the outside (not down there with 1st-hand access to what was going on) looking in, it looked bad. But from another source (not Kev), that WAS there, the ambulance was called out of an abundance of caution. I don't know what level of "practice" that NEEDS an ambulance on site because there could be a "serious" issue (heat exhaustion, heart attack, etc.) even in non-contact. First of all, this was not just a normal practice. This was a major, well-publicized sporting event on campus that should have been treated like a real game. The school even said they were trying to raise the stakes this year and make it a bigtime event. When you promote and host an event that draws over 2,000 spectators, you should have the full array of EMS and medical staff on standby - if only for any crowd-related incidents. This is not just about something unexpecting happening on the field. What if somebody got hurt in the stands and needed immediate medical attention? When you attempt to put on a major event and invite the general public, you need to ready for any scenario. That's your "opinion", just like we see several different "opinions" on this board and thread. And maybe you didn't read where I said it wasn't a normal practice using different words.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 15, 2024 11:34:04 GMT -5
Go down the end of this street, take a right, and you are literally at the stadium. It should not take 25 minutes for a EMS/ firetruck to get on the scene. Fire trucks don't come out of the front , they come out of the back on warehouse street What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
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Post by The Professor on Apr 15, 2024 11:36:10 GMT -5
The Training staff / Doctors were onsite and followed all protocols...this is non story...Ambulances are only available when having an actual game....this is like a practice / scrimmage... They don't even have ambulances at High School football games in triad. This a non story and I am disappointed that writer who is a brother didn't ask before making his own assumption This is a protocol that should change. Whenever practices or scrimmages are 100 percent full speed, they should have EMT and ambulances present. They should also be present at high school games. That’s frankly dangerous for the kids to not have that. Likely, a bill will have to be filed with the NCLeg to ensure those protocols are changed. The reason you don't see ambulances at HS games anymore is because 1) The cost. 2) Shortage of EMS staff in the Guilford County
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Post by The Professor on Apr 15, 2024 11:36:54 GMT -5
Fire trucks don't come out of the front , they come out of the back on warehouse street What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? It would affect your directions. Just helping make your post factual
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Post by A&T-roy on Apr 15, 2024 11:38:13 GMT -5
It was NOT a "game". One way you know is that the QBs weren't supposed to be hit. It was just a "glorified" practice/scrimmage where more than the normal number of people were there/invited to see. Whenever you are going full-speed as you would in a game in the fall, you need EMT on standby, not just trainers. That goes for Scrimmages and the Spring Game. Anything else, you shouldn't be doing full-speed tackling and hitting. And contrary to popular belief, you can teach proper tacking techniques without going full-speed. I played High School ball and we had some pretty nasty injuries that required ambulances. Shoot, i remember one practice we had the entire team performing full-speed, open field tackles on kickoffs where coaches manufactured collisions after running full speed about 50 yards. So many kids got hurt that day, we had to cancel practice for a few days just so we could heal up before our first game of the season. So I believe your "stand-by" is that an ambulance should be on-site for ANYTIME there is full-speed hitting, right? If so, do you believe a call/notification to the station (that's a few blocks away) about the activities would be sufficient?
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