AGGIES GOT THEIR MAN 'NEW HEAD BASKETBALL COACH"OFFICIALLY"

[A&T-roy]

Apr 17, 2023 9:23:28 GMT -5 aggie82 said:

Apr 17, 2023 4:55:10 GMT -5 planoaggie said:

I am a little confused why Julius Reese Jr and Jason Murphy are "committed" players and not "signed" players, unless you can't sign players over the weekend. Reese is a HS senior so basketball signing periods are the following:
D1 Basketball (early period) November 9 - 16, 2022 and
D1 Basketball (regular period) April 12 thru May 17, 2023.

Murphy is a D2 player that placed his name in the transfer portal. He should be able to sign at any time, but did not necessarily need to transfer immediately if I understand the rules correctly.

If signing of players over the weekend is not the reason, then we have a little more work to do to close the deal on these 2 players. Still good news that we have 1 signee and 2 commits after about 2 weeks of recruiting by Coach Ross and staff.

Reese is a local kid from Greensboro Day. He will be a walk on, so I'm a little confused at the timing on his announcement,and to the legitimacy of the post; however, he's a good kid,and will be a good practice player. Coach has not officially met with the players who are still in the program, so, we won't know how many roster spots he will have to fill until he has that meeting.

In the press conference Coach Ross said that a couple of our players, that are in the portal, said they love AggieLand.

That sounds like he has talked with them in some form or fashion.

[planoaggie]

Apr 17, 2023 9:23:28 GMT -5 aggie82 said:

Apr 17, 2023 4:55:10 GMT -5 planoaggie said:

I am a little confused why Julius Reese Jr and Jason Murphy are "committed" players and not "signed" players, unless you can't sign players over the weekend. Reese is a HS senior so basketball signing periods are the following:
D1 Basketball (early period) November 9 - 16, 2022 and
D1 Basketball (regular period) April 12 thru May 17, 2023.

Murphy is a D2 player that placed his name in the transfer portal. He should be able to sign at any time, but did not necessarily need to transfer immediately if I understand the rules correctly.

If signing of players over the weekend is not the reason, then we have a little more work to do to close the deal on these 2 players. Still good news that we have 1 signee and 2 commits after about 2 weeks of recruiting by Coach Ross and staff.

Reese is a local kid from Greensboro Day. He will be a walk on, so I'm a little confused at the timing on his announcement,and to the legitimacy of the post; however, he's a good kid,and will be a good practice player. Coach has not officially met with the players who are still in the program, so, we won't know how many roster spots he will have to fill until he has that meeting.

Thanks for the update on Reese. This now makes sense if he is a preferred walk-on since they don't sign NLI agreements. HS basketball players soon to graduate (in ~ 6 weeks) typically don't commit this late in the recruiting process, but are signing.

[saabman]

Apr 17, 2023 9:23:28 GMT -5 aggie82 said:

Apr 17, 2023 4:55:10 GMT -5 planoaggie said:

I am a little confused why Julius Reese Jr and Jason Murphy are "committed" players and not "signed" players, unless you can't sign players over the weekend. Reese is a HS senior so basketball signing periods are the following:
D1 Basketball (early period) November 9 - 16, 2022 and
D1 Basketball (regular period) April 12 thru May 17, 2023.

Murphy is a D2 player that placed his name in the transfer portal. He should be able to sign at any time, but did not necessarily need to transfer immediately if I understand the rules correctly.

If signing of players over the weekend is not the reason, then we have a little more work to do to close the deal on these 2 players. Still good news that we have 1 signee and 2 commits after about 2 weeks of recruiting by Coach Ross and staff.

Reese is a local kid from Greensboro Day. He will be a walk on, so I'm a little confused at the timing on his announcement,and to the legitimacy of the post; however, he's a good kid,and will be a good practice player. Coach has not officially met with the players who are still in the program, so, we won't know how many roster spots he will have to fill until he has that meeting.

Reese a "Walk on " ?

"I’ve known Coach Ross for a long time and he recruited me when I was at Glenn (High School) and he was at Delaware, so it’s great that it’s worked out like this,” Reese said. “And I can’t say enough about A&T and their academics, their history in athletics and the great atmosphere on campus. It was a perfect fit all the way around.” doesn't sound like a "Walk-on " to me .

Where did you find that information that Reese is a Walk-on ?

I do know that he is an excellent baseball player also and would like to do both at TEE. But having seen him play both , I don't see him as a "Walk-on in my opinion .

[aggie82]

Not to be critical of the kid at all, but he is not a Division 1 player, especially at this level. He's a D1 athlete, but not a D1 basketball player. There is a difference.

[aggieblackie2]

We know. We saw that with our team last year and several years before dat.

[saabman]

Apr 17, 2023 22:18:45 GMT -5 aggie82 said:

Not to be critical of the kid at all, but he is not a Division 1 player, especially at this level. He's a D1 athlete, but not a D1 basketball player. There is a difference.

I'll disagree but we will see . I think that he is on scholarship not a Walk-on.

[planoaggie]

Apr 17, 2023 22:53:07 GMT -5 saabman said:

Apr 17, 2023 22:18:45 GMT -5 aggie82 said:

Not to be critical of the kid at all, but he is not a Division 1 player, especially at this level. He's a D1 athlete, but not a D1 basketball player. There is a difference.

I'll disagree but we will see . I think that he is on scholarship not a Walk-on.

Then why would any player at this stage in the recruiting process make a commitment announcement instead of a signing announcement? Early signing period I can understand, but this is regular signing period. HS signing day is huge marketing for the player and college. I remain confused if you are correct.

My focus is on the understanding of the process and not about the player or coach. I seek similar understanding for why would a transfer player commit instead of sign this late in the recruiting process.

[Aggie One]

He signed. Let's move on.

[planoaggie]

Apr 18, 2023 8:49:59 GMT -5 Aggie One said:

He signed. Let's move on.

Your posting is not proof that he signed. The wordings "to me" make it seems more likely that he is a preferred walk-on based on how preferred walk-ons make announcements on what college they plan to attend.

Preferred walk-ons can participate in signing day. Read the following:

Do preferred walk-ons sign on signing day?
Technically, preferred walk-ons don’t have anything to sign on Signing Day, as they aren’t receiving an athletic scholarship. However, walk-ons are an essential part of a successful team, and college coaches want to celebrate their signing, as well. Ask your future coach about having something to sign, especially if your school is throwing a Signing day party. Don’t forget to rep your new school with some gear!

www.ncsasports.org/recruiting/managing-recruiting-process/walk-on-vs-scholarship

Personally, I don't care whether this young man is a walk-on or on scholarship. All that matters is who Coach Ross wants to play for him. Honestly, regardless of players, coaches, or colleges, my only interest in this specific matter is to understand why a HS senior or transfer player would commit and not sign at this late stage of the college school year. A HS preferred walk-on making a commitment announcement at this time is a very satisfying answer to the first part of my question. I am still confused on the tranfer player's decision.

[saabman]

Apr 18, 2023 13:21:39 GMT -5 planoaggie said:

Apr 18, 2023 8:49:59 GMT -5 Aggie One said:

He signed. Let's move on.

Your posting is not proof that he signed. The wordings "to me" make it seems more likely that he is a preferred walk-on based on how preferred walk-ons make announcements on what college they plan to attend.

Preferred walk-ons can participate in signing day. Read the following:

Do preferred walk-ons sign on signing day?
Technically, preferred walk-ons don’t have anything to sign on Signing Day, as they aren’t receiving an athletic scholarship. However, walk-ons are an essential part of a successful team, and college coaches want to celebrate their signing, as well. Ask your future coach about having something to sign, especially if your school is throwing a Signing day party. Don’t forget to rep your new school with some gear!

www.ncsasports.org/recruiting/managing-recruiting-process/walk-on-vs-scholarship

Personally, I don't care whether this young man is a walk-on or on scholarship. All that matters is who Coach Ross wants to play for him. Honestly, regardless of players, coaches, or colleges, my only interest in this matter is to understand why a HS senior or transfer player would commit and not sign at this late stage of the college school year. A HS preferred walk-on making a commitment announcement at this time is a very satisfying answer to the first part of my question. I am still confused on the tranfer player's decision.

NLI is a binding agreement between a prospective student-athlete and an NLI member institution . Many NIL agreements are done where the Student athlete can sign his scholarship at his convenience as long as the school agrees to accept his signing date . Commitment parties are usually done to let other programs and people know that the athletes recruitment door is no longer open . Your making this more then it actually is .

Because when the NLI is signed and the athlete changes his/her mind they have to have approval from the institution to be released from there NLI commitment agreement in order to reopen their recruitment by other programs. So they are basically locked in .

[planoaggie]

Apr 18, 2023 14:42:49 GMT -5 saabman said:

Apr 18, 2023 13:21:39 GMT -5 planoaggie said:

Personally, I don't care whether this young man is a walk-on or on scholarship. All that matters is who Coach Ross wants to play for him. Honestly, regardless of players, coaches, or colleges, my only interest in this matter is to understand why a HS senior or transfer player would commit and not sign at this late stage of the college school year. A HS preferred walk-on making a commitment announcement at this time is a very satisfying answer to the first part of my question. I am still confused on the tranfer player's decision.

NLI is a binding agreement between a prospective student-athlete and an NLI member institution . Many NIL agreements are done where the Student athlete can sign his scholarship at his convenience as long as the school agrees to accept his signing date . Commitment parties are usually done to let other programs and people know that the athletes recruitment door is no longer open . Your making this more then it actually is .

Because when the NLI is signed and the athlete changes his/her mind they have to have approval from the institution to be released from there NLI commitment agreement in order to reopen their recruitment by other programs. So they are basically locked in .

I already understood the differences between a verbal commitment (non-binding) and a written signed NLI (binding) as well as the degree of difficulty in breaking those agreements. I know during signing period a player may sign on the 1st day (many do) or the last day. Whenever a player receives a NLI, he must sign and send it in within 7 days.

I thought I was clear in what I was confused about. Why would a HS senior player "choose" to make a commitment announcement "during the last signing period"? Why not just sign if he wants to end recruitment? If he is a preferred walk-on, then there is no signing. I am good with that answer.

Now I would like an answer from anyone as to why a transfer player would "choose" to make a commitment announcement "so near the end of the school year"? Should he not be able to sign at any time after entering the portal to end recruitment? Committing does not end your recruitment, stop coaches from contacting you, or taking unofficial visits. This, I do know.

I am ok moving on from this question if no one knows reasons for a player to make that kind of decision. Anyone's answer or opinion was only for educational purposes.

[saabman]

Apr 18, 2023 17:57:08 GMT -5 planoaggie said:

Apr 18, 2023 14:42:49 GMT -5 saabman said:

NLI is a binding agreement between a prospective student-athlete and an NLI member institution . Many NIL agreements are done where the Student athlete can sign his scholarship at his convenience as long as the school agrees to accept his signing date . Commitment parties are usually done to let other programs and people know that the athletes recruitment door is no longer open . Your making this more then it actually is .

Because when the NLI is signed and the athlete changes his/her mind they have to have approval from the institution to be released from there NLI commitment agreement in order to reopen their recruitment by other programs. So they are basically locked in .

I already understood the differences between a verbal commitment (non-binding) and a written signed NLI (binding) as well as the difficulty in breaking those agreements. I know during signing period a player may sign on the 1st day (many do) or the last day. Whenever a player receives a NLI, he must sign and send it in within 7 days.

I thought I was clear in what I was confused about. Why would a HS senior player "choose" to make a commitment announcement "during the last signing period"? Why not just sign if he wants to end recruitment? If he is a preferred walk-on, then there is no signing. I am good with that answer.

Now I would like an answer from anyone as to why a transfer player would "choose" to make a commitment announcement "so near the end of the school year"? Should he not be able to sign at any time after entering the portal to end recruitment? Committing does not end your recruitment, stop coaches from contacting you, or taking unofficial visits. This, I do know.

I am ok moving on from this question if no one knows reasons for a player to make that kind of decision. Anyone's answer or opinion was only for educational purposes.

That's what kids do these days. I have had players and known athletes ,portal included. To sign NLI but choose to sign later so that they can still take all of their yearly official recruitment visits to programs that are still actively interested in signing them .

You are correct NLI do not necessarily stop other programs from pursuing an athlete . But it is up to the athlete and program to setup the signing date or day . It's a Personal Choice by the athlete and HC/recruiter.

[planoaggie]

Apr 18, 2023 23:53:36 GMT -5 saabman said:

Apr 18, 2023 17:57:08 GMT -5 planoaggie said:

That's what kids do these days. I have had players and known athletes ,portal included. To sign NLI but choose to sign later so that they can still take all of their yearly official recruitment visits to programs that are still actively interested in signing them .

You are correct NLI do not necessarily stop other programs from pursuing an athlete . But it is up to the athlete and program to setup the signing date or day . It's a Personal Choice by the athlete and HC/recruiter.

I believe the 2 places in your above post where NLI was used, you intended to say "commit". I know of a player that committed early and then decommitted because a coach refused to allow him to take all 5 of his "official visits", but agreed to allow him to take "unofficial visits". This happened far ahead of the national signing day period.

You are right that these decisions are at the discretion of each coach/college. I had just never seen or heard of this happening so late in the signing period for a HS senior or a transfer portal player so late in the college academic year. Personal choice by a player or coach's discretion is a default answer, but I was looking for something I did not know or overlooked in this "late recruiting period" like the preferred walk-on announcement for HS players, who only need to commit.

Coaches have it tough these days. A kid's commitment does not mean the same these days. That is why I pay close attention to whether the player has committed or signed.  Bhayshul Tuten, which we all know very well, was a transfer player that committed, decommitted, and then committed again in a short window span. His case was unique due to the firing of a coach after the season and the short period of time for him to enroll elsewhere the following semester, but it highlights that as a coach, you need to get these committed kids signed to lock them in.

[saabman]

Apr 19, 2023 5:55:23 GMT -5 planoaggie said:

Apr 18, 2023 23:53:36 GMT -5 saabman said:

That's what kids do these days. I have had players and known athletes ,portal included. To sign NLI but choose to sign later so that they can still take all of their yearly official recruitment visits to programs that are still actively interested in signing them .

You are correct NLI do not necessarily stop other programs from pursuing an athlete . But it is up to the athlete and program to setup the signing date or day . It's a Personal Choice by the athlete and HC/recruiter.

I believe the 2 places in your above post where NLI was used, you intended to say "commit". I know of a player that committed early and then decommitted because a coach refused to allow him to take all 5 of his "official visits", but agreed to allow him to take "unofficial visits". This happened far ahead of the national signing day period.

You are right that these decisions are at the discretion of each coach/college. I had just never seen or heard of this happening so late in the signing period for a HS senior or a transfer portal player so late in the college academic year. Personal choice by a player or coach's discretion is a default answer, but I was looking for something I did not know or overlooked in this "late recruiting period" like the preferred walk-on announcement for HS players, who only need to commit.

Coaches have it tough these days. A kid's commitment does not mean the same these days. That is why I pay close attention to whether the player has committed or signed.  Bhayshul Tuten, which we all know very well, was a transfer player that committed, decommitted, and then committed again in a short window span. His case was unique due to the firing of a coach after the season and the short period of time for him to enroll elsewhere the following semester, but it highlights that as a coach, you need to get these committed kids signed to lock them in.

That is the situation that Recruiters,HC'S and programs have to deal with today . I agree that Committed, NIL even Walk-on's should be signed and locked in ,but that is the landscape that Recruiters and HC'S have to navigate through when it comes to dealing with today's recruits and selling their programs .

[pj]