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Post by saabman on Feb 1, 2023 21:39:35 GMT -5
Our coach is out there so stop looking down the street. We should move away from our own comfort zone. If A&T can expand their conference affiliation for the better. Why shouldn't that the same thing be applied to our search for a coach . Very few coaches have more connections than Moton. Change your mindset. Stop thinking that you can't find cold water at HBCUs If anything it is your mindset that may need changing . If your mindset is to limited. What I stated had nothing to do with finding or not finding a coach from the HBCU coaching ranks . My point is that our search for a HC should not be limited to just the HBCU Ranks..i.e Step out of our comfort zone. As for the "Cold Water" reference , Some people like there Water Hot and it's about time our HBCU's adopted that mindset going forward .
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Post by jbrob on Feb 1, 2023 22:39:35 GMT -5
Very few coaches have more connections than Moton. Change your mindset. Stop thinking that you can't find cold water at HBCUs If anything it is your mindset that may need changing . If your mindset is to limited. What I stated had nothing to do with finding or not finding a coach from the HBCU coaching ranks . My point is that our search for a HC should not be limited to just the HBCU Ranks..i.e Step out of our comfort zone. As for the "Cold Water" reference , Some people like there Water Hot and it's about time our HBCU's adopted that mindset going forward . Ok. We should hire an assistant from a PWI. That's a new concept.
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Post by planoaggie on Feb 2, 2023 0:46:11 GMT -5
How much do you think A&T will need to pay to attract a good MBB head coach? Year and length of contract.
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Post by saabman on Feb 2, 2023 1:26:32 GMT -5
If anything it is your mindset that may need changing . If your mindset is to limited. What I stated had nothing to do with finding or not finding a coach from the HBCU coaching ranks . My point is that our search for a HC should not be limited to just the HBCU Ranks..i.e Step out of our comfort zone. As for the "Cold Water" reference , Some people like there Water Hot and it's about time our HBCU's adopted that mindset going forward . Ok. We should hire an assistant from a PWI. That's a new concept. Your still missing the point. Do a proper search and let the cards fall where they may.
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Post by saabman on Feb 2, 2023 1:32:08 GMT -5
How much do you think A&T will need to pay to attract a good MBB head coach? Year and length of contract. Good question 🤔 We don't have to break the bank to find a legitimate coach . But we do have to do our do diligence in the search .
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Post by planoaggie on Feb 2, 2023 8:13:19 GMT -5
What is the highest salary A&T has paid any coach (football, basketball, track,etc) and the length of that contract?
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Post by saabman on Feb 2, 2023 9:11:31 GMT -5
What is the highest salary A&T has paid any coach (football, basketball, track,etc) and the length of that contract? Most likely Broadway salary was the highest.
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Post by planoaggie on Feb 2, 2023 10:44:14 GMT -5
I found that we paid football Coach Broadway a base salary of $309,290 in 2017-2018. A&T-roy said he believes football Coach Vicent Brown base salary is estimated to be ~$365K. I know we still have some previous coaches salaries on the books, but other schools do as well. Maybe we can target a high profile coach that was recently fired where his former university is on the hook to pay his large salary minus what A&T pays him. I am not sure if it works exactly like that in college coach's contract. For example, suppose Georgetown fires Patrick Ewing (not wishing he gets fired, just a hypo) whom has a salary of $5M/yr with 3 years remaining (expires end of 2026 MBB season). Would it be so far fetched to offer him $300K-$500K for 3 years with a condition that he hires a coach in waiting to mentor on his staff in case he decides to leave after 3 years? He may stay longer with a problem to work towards joining the Big East or ACC. Compare the Big East schools enrollment to us. www.collegeevaluator.com/ncaa-conferences/big-east-conference/enrollment/An investment like that would lift our MBB program to heights never seen and sustain our program for maybe 5 years after he decided to leave. The recruiting pipeline would be off the chart and it would definitely fix our big men development and involvement in our offense. Also, it would definitely get more fans in the arena. This is just a hypo, especially since he is not available, but maybe we can target someone similar. Look at what Deion Sanders ($300K base salary) did for Jackson State and they knew he was not going to stay long term. Our situation would be better since another university would be responsible for paying the bulk of a high major D1 coach's salary unlike Deion's case. Of course, the caveat is do we have the cache to convince someone like that to come to A&T. We are the largest HBCU and almost twice as large as JSU. We have much more to offer coaches as an university than most reputation wise (athletically and academically) so aim high. I am just trying to think out the box and move away from the same old same old hiring thought practices. Harold Martin's decision to have us join the Big South and then CAA has changed everything. We should be recruiting players and coaches to put us on the path to join the other tobacco road universities (ACC) in 3 to 7 years. Why settle for lower ranked predominant white conferences if "Martin's" path for A&T is for us to not rejoin a HBCU conference? So let's not focus on the MBB coach being paid more than the football coach. We will eventually have to increase the football coach's salary accordingly once his contract expired or with a new hire.
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Post by A&T-roy on Feb 2, 2023 11:20:46 GMT -5
What is the highest salary A&T has paid any coach (football, basketball, track,etc) and the length of that contract? Most likely Broadway salary was the highest. Brown's base salary is 365. I think that's the highest.
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Post by planoaggie on Feb 2, 2023 11:26:42 GMT -5
Most likely Broadway salary was the highest. Brown's base salary is 365. I think that's the highest. Thanks for the information. I edited my previous post to include that info. Also, I added additional comments to the last paragraph.
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Post by B on Feb 3, 2023 10:14:50 GMT -5
How much do you think A&T will need to pay to attract a good MBB head coach? Year and length of contract. I'm thinking $350-400K/year with a 4 year contract. At a minimum $325K. I think the previous coach was making $190K/year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2023 10:33:25 GMT -5
Our coach is out there so stop looking down the street. We should move away from our own comfort zone. If A&T can expand their conference affiliation for the better. Why shouldn't that the same thing be applied to our search for a coach . Very few coaches have more connections than Moton. Change your mindset. Stop thinking that you can't find cold water at HBCUs He’s trending down at NCCU. Perhaps his message is growing stale? I’d rather have NSU’s Coach anyway but we may have to drop $400k to get him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2023 10:34:16 GMT -5
How much do you think A&T will need to pay to attract a good MBB head coach? Year and length of contract. We’re going to pay whatever our conference mates that have football pay. We’re not going the cheap route.
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Post by planoaggie on Feb 3, 2023 18:28:01 GMT -5
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Post by saabman on Feb 3, 2023 20:41:40 GMT -5
I think that A&T can find the right head coach at 380 to 400k and back load it with a heavy incentives package . Where I find concerns is with the pay range of the assistant coaches . Which maybe in the 90 to 100k range for quality assistant coaches
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