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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 28, 2022 15:58:16 GMT -5
its not so much whether its a myth or not, that's irrelevant. what isn't a myth is that that doctrine is the basis for "systemic racism" and that's the point being made. forget about whether the letter is a myth or not, cuz it don't matter...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Apr 28, 2022 16:02:24 GMT -5
dude, there's a whole lot more to it than that. there's these things called "income inequality" and "systemic racism" that no matter what you do, you cannot change it. otherwise, it would've been changed by now. you might wanna study african american "history" and the " willie lynch doctrine" to better understand why black folk don't have nearly as much "revenue" as our white counterparts... www.politics-prose.com/book/9780979905216The Willie Lynch Letter And The Making Of A Slave
The Willie Lynch Letter and The Making of A Slave is a speech delivered by Willie Lynch to an audience on the bank of the James River in Virginia in 1712 regarding control of slaves within the colony. The speaker, William Lynch, is said to have been a slave owner in the West Indies, and was summoned to Virginia in 1712; in part due to several slave revolts in the area prior to his visit, and more so because of his reputation of being an authoritarian and strict slave master. The Willie Lynch Letter is an account of a short speech given by Willie Lynch, in which he tells other slave owners that he has discovered the "secret" to controlling enslaved Africans by setting them against one another.Not to derail this thread, many scholars, such as Jelani Cobb, strongly suspect there was never a Willie Lynch that existed and delivered such a speech. www.ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2004/may.htmits not so much whether its a myth or not, that's totally irrelevant. what isn't a myth is that that doctrine is the basis for "systemic racism" and that's the point being made. forget about whether the letter is a myth or not, cuz it don't matter one way or the other. unless you understand that doctrine, you'll "never" understand why african americans are in the predicament that we're still in today. don't matter whether the letter is true or not...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2022 18:24:52 GMT -5
its not so much whether its a myth or not, that's totally irrelevant. what isn't a myth is that that doctrine is the basis for "systemic racism" and that's the point being made. forget about whether the letter is a myth or not, cuz it don't matter one way or the other. unless you understand that doctrine, you'll "never" understand why african americans are in the predicament that we're still in today. don't matter whether the letter is true or not... I mean, people put out stuff all the time as a way to rationalize behaviors and frame it in a historical context in order for it to resonate with people. But hey, you had it for a point on a thread about the NCAA possibly moving away from scholarship limits in equivalency sports.
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Post by Maxell on Apr 28, 2022 19:09:53 GMT -5
its already that way. and when it comes down to "money", guess who loses? yep, hbcu's... HBCUs are losing in the money game because we as alums don't give back. Definitely need to get our giving rate up to 30 to 40 percent. Last number I saw we were at 8 percent and T actually had one of the highest percentages That's not the reason, and you're are delusional if you think we will get to 40 percent. The reason we lose is that the new system (just like the old one) is not designed for us to win. We can not make up for the generational wealth that we have chosen to compete with with just alumni contributions. The right thing to do is for several schools to go down to D2 where they belong. At least 10 D1 HBCU schools need go back down and flourish at the D2 level (see Bowie, Va State). The remaining schools need to leverage high quality play and garner eight figure investments from those that have the money.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2022 19:31:41 GMT -5
HBCUs are losing in the money game because we as alums don't give back. Definitely need to get our giving rate up to 30 to 40 percent. Last number I saw we were at 8 percent and T actually had one of the highest percentages That's not the reason, and you're are delusional if you think we will get to 40 percent. The reason we lose is that the new system (just like the old one) is not designed for us to win. We can not make up for the generational wealth that we have chosen to compete with with just alumni contributions. The right thing to do is for several schools to go down to D2 where they belong. At least 10 D1 HBCU schools need go back down and flourish at the D2 level (see Bowie, Va State). The remaining schools need to leverage high quality play and garner eight figure investments from those that have the money. Most schools in the CIAA and SIAC need to go back to the NAIA to he honest.
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Post by A&T-roy on Apr 28, 2022 20:51:07 GMT -5
HBCUs are losing in the money game because we as alums don't give back. Definitely need to get our giving rate up to 30 to 40 percent. Last number I saw we were at 8 percent and T actually had one of the highest percentages That's not the reason, and you're are delusional if you think we will get to 40 percent. The reason we lose is that the new system (just like the old one) is not designed for us to win. We can not make up for the generational wealth that we have chosen to compete with with just alumni contributions. The right thing to do is for several schools to go down to D2 where they belong. At least 10 D1 HBCU schools need go back down and flourish at the D2 level (see Bowie, Va State). The remaining schools need to leverage high quality play and garner eight figure investments from those that have the money. Yep, that generational/slave generated/racism generated wealth is yuge.
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Post by The Professor on Apr 28, 2022 22:38:14 GMT -5
HBCUs are losing in the money game because we as alums don't give back. Definitely need to get our giving rate up to 30 to 40 percent. Last number I saw we were at 8 percent and T actually had one of the highest percentages That's not the reason, and you're are delusional if you think we will get to 40 percent. The reason we lose is that the new system (just like the old one) is not designed for us to win. We can not make up for the generational wealth that we have chosen to compete with with just alumni contributions. The right thing to do is for several schools to go down to D2 where they belong. At least 10 D1 HBCU schools need go back down and flourish at the D2 level (see Bowie, Va State). The remaining schools need to leverage high quality play and garner eight figure investments from those that have the money. I hear u. I also know plenty of A&T grads who are doing very well financially and refuse to donate to athletics or their department because of issues that had while in undergrad. Is 30 to 40 percent high yes. But 8 percent is bad imo
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Post by aggie2039 on Apr 28, 2022 22:47:28 GMT -5
That's not the reason, and you're are delusional if you think we will get to 40 percent. The reason we lose is that the new system (just like the old one) is not designed for us to win. We can not make up for the generational wealth that we have chosen to compete with with just alumni contributions. The right thing to do is for several schools to go down to D2 where they belong. At least 10 D1 HBCU schools need go back down and flourish at the D2 level (see Bowie, Va State). The remaining schools need to leverage high quality play and garner eight figure investments from those that have the money. I hear u. I also know plenty of A&T grads who are doing very well financially and refuse to donate to athletics or their department because of issues that had while in undergrad. Is 30 to 40 percent high yes. But 8 percent is bad imo Same here, I personally know multiple grads making $200K that aren’t donating 🤷🏾♂️ I sent the link to the 18.91 campaign and they still aren’t donating 😕
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Post by A&T-roy on Apr 28, 2022 22:54:34 GMT -5
I hear u. I also know plenty of A&T grads who are doing very well financially and refuse to donate to athletics or their department because of issues that had while in undergrad. Is 30 to 40 percent high yes. But 8 percent is bad imo Same here, I personally know multiple grads making $200K that aren’t donating 🤷🏾♂️ I sent the link to the 18.91 campaign and they still aren’t donating 😕 From what I understand, it's WORSER for athletics...much less than 8%. #Smh
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Post by Maxell on Apr 28, 2022 23:00:09 GMT -5
That's not the reason, and you're are delusional if you think we will get to 40 percent. The reason we lose is that the new system (just like the old one) is not designed for us to win. We can not make up for the generational wealth that we have chosen to compete with with just alumni contributions. The right thing to do is for several schools to go down to D2 where they belong. At least 10 D1 HBCU schools need go back down and flourish at the D2 level (see Bowie, Va State). The remaining schools need to leverage high quality play and garner eight figure investments from those that have the money. I hear u. I also know plenty of A&T grads who are doing very well financially and refuse to donate to athletics or their department because of issues that had while in undergrad. Is 30 to 40 percent high yes. But 8 percent is bad imo Just so you know, the average for all state schools in the US is 5%. Also, I think the capital campaign pushed us to 11%. BTW, ALL OF US had issues as undergrads. They need to get over it. Let them know we have been underfunded by the state $287 million since 1982. And who know how much before then.
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 29, 2022 8:41:52 GMT -5
Sound like folk still having issues as undergrads.
I sent the link to the 1891 to the whole B-more alumni listserv. Had a buddy do the same for the DC alumni Facebook page or something. I don't think anybody joined.
Oh yeah, we talking about scholly limits.
I guess all we can do is continue to prepare if it does happen. You can either be the windshield or the bug on the windshield. Gonna be a lot of bugs. Like it or not looks like we're attempting to cast our lot with the windshield.
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Post by Maxell on Apr 29, 2022 10:28:48 GMT -5
I sent the link to the 1891 to the whole B-more alumni listserv. Had a buddy do the same for the DC alumni Facebook page or something. I don't think anybody joined. I would suggest you and your buddy keep hitting them up with the link once a month or so. Communication theory says it takes 5-7 times for it to click and even then it will be a 10% participation rate. "We" usually need some sort of galvanizing event like a campaign, a dinner, or entertainment. There's an idea. Have a $18.91 event (even at the local level). And at some point in the program, everybody pulls out their phones at the same time and contribute together on the spot. Peer pressure works and it could be a fun way to do it.
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Post by DOOMS on Apr 29, 2022 10:44:12 GMT -5
Will do!
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Post by Bornthrilla on Apr 29, 2022 10:47:26 GMT -5
The fact that the university still refuses to even officially acknowledge the $18.91 CLub is the biggest detriment to its growth.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2022 11:02:36 GMT -5
The fact that the university still refuses to even officially acknowledge the $18.91 CLub is the biggest detriment to its growth. It's listed on official AAF documentation. Can you provide proof that there hasn't been any acknowledgment aside from an advertising campaign?
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