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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 1, 2018 21:10:17 GMT -5
After experiencing ECU tailgate I have to say that we need to open things back up. I miss that vibe. that is all
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Post by aggieswag on Sept 1, 2018 22:13:38 GMT -5
We are the only team in the entire United States that does that bogus mess. Its pound for penny stupid. That policy has set growth back 10 years by eliminating the atmosphere we just saw. Its a shame.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Sept 1, 2018 22:40:17 GMT -5
......but all those people go into the game.....they have tickets. Can you say the same thing for US back in the day??
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Post by VA's Finest on Sept 1, 2018 23:00:35 GMT -5
My thoughts exactly, you check that parking lot out once game has started, ghost town, most of those folks dont just single game tickets either, I bet they are mostly season ticket holders. And those those that dont venture into stadium are probably still season ticket holders, they just pick and choose the games they really want to see. Let alone they 35000+ in stadium on average.
We were essentially having folks mooch off the game day atmosphere we were providing and seeing $0 in revenue from it.
I'm for the game zone, T needs to try and get every dollar it can squeeze out of us since we mostly refuse to give graciously.
Just my 2 cents
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Post by aggieswag on Sept 1, 2018 23:03:17 GMT -5
Thats what people dont get. All those people dont go to the game. And gameday is not always about people that go into the game. You are talking about engaging thousands of people. Let them engage they want to. You are keeping people out thats not going to the game anyway..so why in Gods name does it matter. Who cares if they stay outside and listen to the game. The culture will bring people and once you start tailgaiting and gettiing involved,if 30% over 5 years become game attenders thats winning. The policy is petty. Serves no purpose at all. We are the only team in the entire US that does it (i guess were smarter). We are missing out on thousands of potential supporters for nothing. No evidence whatsoever this has increased attendance or revenue. None at all.
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Post by aggierattler on Sept 1, 2018 23:19:24 GMT -5
Can’t they “engage” just as easily outside of the GameZone? There is plenty of tailgating going on in other spots on campus on gameday.
And if they need to engage within the perimeter, all they need to do is buy a game ticket. That’s not asking too much. In fact, that’s only fair.
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Post by VA's Finest on Sept 1, 2018 23:20:48 GMT -5
"Gameday" is not all about the "game". Ok I guess?
Uh there are a few other MEAC schools that institute a game zone.
My thing is if there was no game these folks wouldn't be here. People are willing to spend all types of money on clothes food, alcohol, DJs, etc to have a good time at a game they dont even attend and could honestly care what the score was.
T is just trying to get a small piece of that pie. It goes back to my original point however. We, for the most part, dont know how to give back to the university anyway. If they were enough giving in the first place maybe game zone wouldn't have needed to be implemented.
We can spend $200 on sneaks, and more on a fit but get upset when the university wants you to pay something to have fun.
Now that I'm typing this, game zone essentially is like a cover charge at a club. Let see yall tell a club yall should just let us engage for free, wont happen.
T is providing the same atmosphere you will get at the club later and most dont have a problem paying that and we've all seen the outrageous covers some of these places charge during GHOE.
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Post by neighborhoodsuperstar on Sept 1, 2018 23:21:55 GMT -5
Sorry dude,
No paper, no play. If A&T wants to charge $10 for people to get in the stadium premises without going into the stadium, I'm cool with that. But I'll be damn if hordes of mooches pay nothing for the atmosphere.
And thousands of potential supporters.......please define "supporters" - when you pay nothing to hang around Aggie Stadium year after year after year, how is that supporting Aggie infrastructure?
I'm not big on the word "potential" either.....as in they have the potential to pay, but never do.
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Post by aggieswag on Sept 1, 2018 23:28:08 GMT -5
Can someone share where the policy has increased attendance? Ive been to all meac schools and no one does it. We are not a club. The branding and marketing for a night club is worlds difference for a Division I program. Its about growth. Thats the bottom line. I remember when the stadium was lit every game. Its not that way..and for what. The away side is still empty as hell.
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Post by VA's Finest on Sept 1, 2018 23:56:50 GMT -5
Yeah we can "grow" all we want, but if all these "growth" folks ain't paying it's not helping our bottom line. Especially when there are some that sell plates out of their tailgate spots, really. A&T athletics sees no parts of that revenue, they only provide the real estate, I guess.
Yeah the away side probably appears empty but that could be because somebody bought a game zone ticket and still chose not to enter the stadium (which plenty do). But at least the revenue was generated for athletics. Some people view it as the least they could do since again most dont give regularly anyway.
But then there are those that have been used to for so many years just waltzing inside those 2 gates and just hamming it up with friends and classmates having a good old time for hours before and after. Never step foot in stadium.
If were to say OK, the athletic department is eliminating the game zone and then they asked for donations to support Aggie athletics do you really think people would come up off anything. Im sure they would hear I will give online. Probably will never happen. Most people wouldn't mind getting something if they donate... guess what that's kind of what game zone gives you, a lil something in return.
And dont think of just the pay to tailgate aspect, if you do choose you also get a game with that ticket. Lets see tailgate + football game + halftime show for a nominal fee.
But sure we should just give tailgating away for free and just hope the folks decide at some point I their lifetime to give to T maybe once.
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Post by aggieswag on Sept 2, 2018 0:02:37 GMT -5
I can explain culture, infrastructute. When i was a kid my parents took us to the games we didnt always go to the game but me and my siblings, and my parents kids came and we had a great time. They could not afford to do that now. So all of us that were "free loading" back then are now in charge of the tailgate now. Fully engaged in Aggie Football. This is the story of college football by the way. Thats why no one has the policy. Football is a culture. I am down for the 10 ticket. To say all of your fans are either reserved or general admission is elementary, short sighted and primitive. We lose money because of this ridiculousness.
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Post by aggieclt on Sept 2, 2018 9:28:16 GMT -5
I can explain culture, infrastructute. When i was a kid my parents took us to the games we didnt always go to the game but me and my siblings, and my parents kids came and we had a great time. They could not afford to do that now. So all of us that were "free loading" back then are now in charge of the tailgate now. Fully engaged in Aggie Football. This is the story of college football by the way. Thats why no one has the policy. Football is a culture. I am down for the 10 ticket. To say all of your fans are either reserved or general admission is elementary, short sighted and primitive. We lose money because of this ridiculousness. It's Sunday so I will be nice. In your heart of hearts and being as honest as you can with yourself, do you think it's fair that you bring your lawn chair (bought from Walmart) to campus, bring your beverage of choice (bought from Food Lion or ABC Store) to campus, bring food (brought from Publix or House of Prayer) to campus and leave campus without saying 'thank you' for picking up the trash left? Walmart, Food Lion, ABC Store, Publix & House of Prayer received financial support and, obviously, engagement from the transaction(s) while A&T received just engagement and bags of trash. Game day at Aggie Stadium to see a football game (whether you chose to watch it or not), see our marching band (whether you chose to watch them or not) and...to engage with others (whether you chose to engage or not) has VALUE. At the very least, that value should be the cost of game game day ticket. It's a fact that our alums and engagement friends do not give back financially to the university or athletics at a very high rate. We have the Game Zone initiative as a result. When 'engaging' next time, let all that will listen know that it takes millions of dollars to run an athletics department and our mailing address to send donations is 1601 East Market Street. Welcome to the board, AggieSwag. |
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Post by aggierattler on Sept 2, 2018 9:33:24 GMT -5
I can explain culture, infrastructute. When i was a kid my parents took us to the games we didnt always go to the game but me and my siblings, and my parents kids came and we had a great time. They could not afford to do that now. So all of us that were "free loading" back then are now in charge of the tailgate now. Fully engaged in Aggie Football. This is the story of college football by the way. Thats why no one has the policy. Football is a culture. I am down for the 10 ticket. To say all of your fans are either reserved or general admission is elementary, short sighted and primitive. We lose money because of this ridiculousness. It's Sunday so I will be nice. In your heart of hearts and being as honest as you can with yourself, do you think it's fair that you bring your lawn chair (bought from Walmart) to campus, bring your beverage of choice (bought from Food Lion or ABC Store) to campus, bring food (brought from Publix or House of Prayer) to campus and leave campus without saying 'thank you' for picking up the trash left? Walmart, Food Lion, ABC Store, Publix & House of Prayer received financial support and, obviously, engagement from the transaction(s) while A&T received just engagement and bags of trash. Game day at Aggie Stadium to see a football game (whether you chose to watch it or not), see our marching band (whether you chose to watch them or not) and...to engage with others (whether you chose to engage or not) has VALUE. At the very least, that value should be the cost of game game day ticket. It's a fact that our alums and engagement friends do not give back financially to the university or athletics at a very high rate. We have the Game Zone initiative as a result. When 'engaging' next time, let all that will listen know that it takes millions of dollars to run an athletics department and our mailing address to send donations is 1601 East Market Street. Welcome to the board, AggieSwag. |
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Post by Aggie Monster on Sept 2, 2018 9:34:22 GMT -5
Yeah,I think a lot of former "moochers" are now people that pay to get tailgate spots and do go in the game. And not because of the game zone.
I really dont see the increase in attendance either. But it was just an observation. Tailgate should be something that you don't have to worry about do i have to walk all the way around with this cooler because I can't go in right here.
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Post by TOPPDOGG on Sept 2, 2018 10:08:53 GMT -5
I can explain culture, infrastructute. When i was a kid my parents took us to the games we didnt always go to the game but me and my siblings, and my parents kids came and we had a great time. They could not afford to do that now. So all of us that were "free loading" back then are now in charge of the tailgate now. Fully engaged in Aggie Football. This is the story of college football by the way. Thats why no one has the policy. Football is a culture. I am down for the 10 ticket. To say all of your fans are either reserved or general admission is elementary, short sighted and primitive. We lose money because of this ridiculousness. It's Sunday so I will be nice. In your heart of hearts and being as honest as you can with yourself, do you think it's fair that you bring your lawn chair (bought from Walmart) to campus, bring your beverage of choice (bought from Food Lion or ABC Store) to campus, bring food (brought from Publix or House of Prayer) to campus and leave campus without saying 'thank you' for picking up the trash left? Walmart, Food Lion, ABC Store, Publix & House of Prayer received financial support and, obviously, engagement from the transaction(s) while A&T received just engagement and bags of trash. Game day at Aggie Stadium to see a football game (whether you chose to watch it or not), see our marching band (whether you chose to watch them or not) and...to engage with others (whether you chose to engage or not) has VALUE. At the very least, that value should be the cost of game game day ticket. It's a fact that our alums and engagement friends do not give back financially to the university or athletics at a very high rate. We have the Game Zone initiative as a result. When 'engaging' next time, let all that will listen know that it takes millions of dollars to run an athletics department and our mailing address to send donations is 1601 East Market Street. Welcome to the board, AggieSwag. This captures my thoughts exactly. I would be in favor of adding some amenities such as closed circuit tv to the game zone to add to the value proposition of the gamezone. |
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