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Post by VA's Finest on Sept 3, 2018 8:37:21 GMT -5
Wow thanks aggieclt for doing the research, I remember at sc state they had ROTC student with the scanners checking tickets way outside stadium.
Sure some will now just say "well the idea is just not smart"
And just like BT suggested last night after what could considered biggest win in AGGIE football history, with emotions running high why not show your financial support of the program and donate $28.23 to Aggie athletics. Wonder how many of those payments have been made?
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Post by marchingband1969 on Sept 3, 2018 8:43:33 GMT -5
Man I thought this topic was thoroughly beat to death and ended years ago but I guess as long as folks have opinions, nothing is dead forever! I apologize but I didn't even bother to read all the "pros and cons" because they've all been said before...a hundred times!
The reason A&T is the largest HBCU, is perceived by other HBCUs as doing all the right things, and has significantly improved our academic and athletic programs in the last decade is because our Administration has done a fantastic job in developing a long range plan and executing the hell out of it. And part of that plan was the Game Zone! And the fact that no one else is doing it don't mean it's not right for our university. Let's continue to trust their plan...it's working!
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Post by marchingband1969 on Sept 3, 2018 8:49:51 GMT -5
Remember the Aggie-Eagle Classic at NCSU? Every person entering the venue had to have a game day ticket. The stadium where the Whitney Young Classic was/is played, did the very same thing. Their policy, if you don't have a ticket you don't get in. They got fed up with folks hanging out in the parking area without buying a ticket to the game. Some SEC schools and other major football programs do not even allow people to hang out in the tailgate area once the game begins. They want every person there in a seat, and you see the results on television. Usually a full stadium. The main event is the football game. They don't want people there just to hang out. If you want to come on A&T's stadium during a football game, buy a ticket. You want to see a massive loss of revenue...attend a Howard Homecoming! The tailgate area is a block off campus in a large parking lot. Hell I bet there's twice as many people in the tailgate area than can fit in the stadium. It's jam packed with thousands of people. I didn't call them "fans" because this is off campus and they don't have to buy a ticket or pay an admission fee to hang out there. It's a great party for the people but Howard isn't benefiting financially from it! Oh by the way, Howard could use some extra cash these days! |
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Post by VA's Finest on Sept 3, 2018 9:00:28 GMT -5
Totally agree MB69, i saw that couple years ago walking down Georgia Ave and was like wow, more so because it still pales in comparison to what you see at GHOE. At the same time inside the stadium wasn't even really to capacity, now that could be result of bad product on the field.
And with Howard's current financial predicament every legitimate penny helps
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Post by aggierattler on Sept 3, 2018 10:40:04 GMT -5
I was at the SC State game. No one took my ticket until i walked in the stadium. Hell i bought the ticket in front of the stadium and handed the man my phone. That is 100% fact. Anybody says anything different did not go to the SC State game period. No one does it. Even if other meac schools did it which they dont i would think we would apire to better. But again not a single sane university that undestands long term branding and marketing would ever implement such a thing. Sorry the evidence is sitting in your face..no extra revenue + no extra attendance= failure. Glad we won today! |
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Post by aggierattler on Sept 3, 2018 10:43:35 GMT -5
Remember the Aggie-Eagle Classic at NCSU? Every person entering the venue had to have a game day ticket. The stadium where the Whitney Young Classic was/is played, did the very same thing. Their policy, if you don't have a ticket you don't get in. They got fed up with folks hanging out in the parking area without buying a ticket to the game. Some SEC schools and other major football programs do not even allow people to hang out in the tailgate area once the game begins. They want every person there in a seat, and you see the results on television. Usually a full stadium. The main event is the football game. They don't want people there just to hang out. If you want to come on A&T's stadium during a football game, buy a ticket. The tailgate area is a block off campus in a large parking lot. Hell I bet there's twice as many people in the tailgate area than can fit in the stadium. It's jam packed with thousands of people. I didn't call them "fans" because this is off campus and they don't have to buy a ticket or pay an admission fee to hang out there. It's a great party for the people but Howard isn't benefiting financially from it! Oh by the way, Howard could use some extra cash these days! |
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Post by @ProfBellamy on Sept 3, 2018 11:19:13 GMT -5
Wow thanks aggieclt for doing the research, I remember at sc state they had ROTC student with the scanners checking tickets way outside stadium. Sure some will now just say "well the idea is just not smart" And just like BT suggested last night after what could considered biggest win in AGGIE football history, with emotions running high why not show your financial support of the program and donate $28.23 to Aggie athletics. Wonder how many of those payments have been made? I gave my $28 to the AAF last night. Game Zone is here to stay. Paid parking from John Mitchell Drive to the stadium is here to stay. Ambitous Aggies who want to create a collegetown tailgate experience can go towards Bessemer or across the 29 bridge. The ultimate goal has to be increase donors to decrease the student fee subsidy. |
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Post by aggieswag on Sept 3, 2018 11:55:30 GMT -5
Im done after this. For all of you making a financial argument, you would have credence if the policy made us more money,but it doesnt. I would argue that with our record and swag to not have more people in the stadium and the fan base has not increased is evidence of how dismal the policy is.
I dont have to lie I was at SC State and the man scanned my phone on the away side 100 ft from stadium. But even if i somehow just got lucky and bypass security can i get an example of a school that is not on the verge of closing. And the highlight of their gameday is congressman Clyburn giving out fish sandwiches. I mean come on!
Please stop making a financial argument when the policy actually loses money. Thats all..
This is basic math. The more people in around the stadium the better chance you have to get those people in the game. The less people you have the less chance you have. Simple math.
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Post by aggieswag on Sept 3, 2018 12:36:17 GMT -5
I did some research of my own. Here is a list of HBCU revenue..The largest hbcu ranks 7th. SC state is way below that. We would be worse if we did not have ESPN games and celebration bowl to boost it up. Do yourself a favor and go down the list and put game zone beside the school when you look at it and holla back! This is the equivalent of NC being the 9th most populous state and rank 40th and below for teacher pay. Bad policy creates that number and bad policy creates ours. hbcusports.com/2018/07/03/division-i-hbcu-revenue-rankings-heres-the-complete-list/ |
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Post by aggie2039 on Sept 3, 2018 12:44:02 GMT -5
I did some research of my own. Here is a list of HBCU revenue..we are 7th SC state is way below that. We would be worse if we did not have ESPN games and celebration bowl to boost it up. Do yourself a favor and go down the list and put game zone beside the school when you look at it and holla back! This is the equivalent of NC being the 9th most populous state and rank 40th and below for teacher pay. Bad policy creates that number and bad policy creates ours. C hbcusports.com/2018/07/03/division-i-hbcu-revenue-rankings-heres-the-complete-list/Blah blah blah...there is plenty of tailgating spots available outside of the fenced off area. Your discussion points are emotional not factual. |
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Post by aggieswag on Sept 3, 2018 12:49:53 GMT -5
Revenue sir is about as factual as you can get. You guys keep making this about money..there it is in black and white/ without emotion.
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Post by aggierattler on Sept 3, 2018 12:54:01 GMT -5
I did some research of my own. Here is a list of HBCU revenue..The largest hbcu ranks 7th. SC state is way below that. We would be worse if we did not have ESPN games and celebration bowl to boost it up. Do yourself a favor and go down the list and put game zone beside the school when you look at it and holla back! This is the equivalent of NC being the 9th most populous state and rank 40th and below for teacher pay. Bad policy creates that number and bad policy creates ours. hbcusports.com/2018/07/03/division-i-hbcu-revenue-rankings-heres-the-complete-list/
This train has already left the station. At this point, it's either jump aboard or watch the caboose fade over the horizon.
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Post by aggieswag on Sept 3, 2018 13:00:09 GMT -5
Y'all cant handle facts lol..Ill leave it alone and hope that people in the office see that if you have the largest HBCU and you rank that low in revenue there is a problem. Its ok as long as we keep that dude from having a beer in Aggie Stadium and not going to the game. Its incredible. What y'all are saying does not make financial sense..hence the list i provided..in black and white...
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Post by marchingband1969 on Sept 3, 2018 13:32:52 GMT -5
Im done after this. For all of you making a financial argument, you would have credence if the policy made us more money,but it doesnt. I would argue that with our record and swag to not have more people in the stadium and the fan base has not increased is evidence of how dismal the policy is. I dont have to lie I was at SC State and the man scanned my phone on the away side 100 ft from stadium. But even if i somehow just got lucky and bypass security can i get an example of a school that is not on the verge of closing. And the highlight of their gameday is congressman Clyburn giving out fish sandwiches. I mean come on! Please stop making a financial argument when the policy actually loses money. Thats all.. This is basic math. The more people in around the stadium the better chance you have to get those people in the game. The less people you have the less chance you have. Simple math. God I tried to stay out of this discussion but you drug me in anyway. I'm from Reidsville and for years I'd drive into the parking lot just behind the A&T scoreboard and see a bunch of my high school classmates tailgating along the fence. I'd speak to them on my way in to the game and after I left the game...and finally I realized they never ever went into the game. They just showed up every week to cookout, drink some beer and hang out. (Hey Reidsville is just a little dull) Now I know this is a free country but hey, other than paying for parking, they weren't helping to support A&T athletics financially. I love my homeboys but I love A&T more and if you want to enjoy the Aggie atmosphere, you have got to help support it. Since the Game Zone was set up, I haven't seen my homeboys since...I guess they found somewhere else to hangout for free. |
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Post by aggieswag on Sept 3, 2018 13:42:51 GMT -5
My response to that is who cares. Why does it matter..if you are not getting money anyway what does it matter. Your homeboys in Riedsville is in every school across this country. Nothing new here. Been thar way for 100 years and will be that way for a 100 more. All schools figure out away to deal with it and practicing elitism, and a all or nothing attitude. Those schools are not ranked 7th in revenue.. Worrying about this is petty and pointless. Again which is why no school does this. Except for SC State lol..the mecca of revenue..
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