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Post by krazykev on Aug 30, 2018 22:06:05 GMT -5
I didn't half quote you. lol. You just went back and added more things to that post later. I aint gone sit here and wait 20 minutes for you to get your thoughts finalized. lol lol, Negro I am editing pictures
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Post by mcp0103 on Aug 30, 2018 22:13:44 GMT -5
I would say right now 2 and 3 are not true until someone can provide facts to prove otherwise. That just sounds like heresay. Let me see the actual correspondence sent by members of the ECU band. You are correct. 2 is not true 3 is somewhat true. You cannot play while the ball is in motion. Bands alternate playing during timeouts. This is coming from an alum and past member of ECU marching band.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 30, 2018 22:21:18 GMT -5
Bro, you dont have to tell me.
I might look kinda crazy but I aint no fool.
This whole official letter nonsense is called damage control.
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Post by mcp0103 on Aug 30, 2018 22:24:03 GMT -5
It really sounds like this boils down to "either we get to play a full halftime show or we ain't coming." It seems ridiculous to believe that ECU would not allow our band to play in the stands after we score or during other portions of the game (timeouts or other game stoppages). I too would love to see ECU's policy on that in writing if it is true.....but I digress. That's not true. Visiting bands are allowed to play in the stands. When your team scores you get to play your fight song. During TV timeouts the bands alternates playing. Each band director gets a head phone set that is connected to the field ref who will let them know when a scheduled TV timeout is about to take place. He will notify both band directors and then the band directors will rotate turns to play. Keep in mind that we also have on field presentations by our sponsors and we have video presentations on the score board. Visiting bands do play in the stand. You can also verify this by asking a member of NCCU band.
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Post by Freeze on Aug 30, 2018 23:07:08 GMT -5
It really sounds like this boils down to "either we get to play a full halftime show or we ain't coming." It seems ridiculous to believe that ECU would not allow our band to play in the stands after we score or during other portions of the game (timeouts or other game stoppages). I too would love to see ECU's policy on that in writing if it is true.....but I digress. That's not true. Visiting bands are allowed to play in the stands. When your team scores you get to play your fight song. During TV timeouts the bands alternates playing. Each band director gets a head phone set that is connected to the field ref who will let them know when a scheduled TV timeout is about to take place. He will notify both band directors and then the band directors will rotate turns to play. Keep in mind that we also have on field presentations by our sponsors and we have video presentations on the score board. Visiting bands do play in the stand. You can also verify this by asking a member of NCCU band. You must've missed the part where I said "it seems ridiculous." Lol. I had already assumed that it wasn't true and your information confirms it. So I wonder if this means moving forward that the band won't accompany the team for support unless they are guaranteed a performance slot at halftime. I said it before and I will say it again.....that policy stinks. It completely reshapes my understanding of what the band's priorities are, I'm certain it disappoints the lion share of our fans, and perhaps most importantly, it clearly disappoints our players who see (or saw) the band as one of their critical support units. Bad decision all around.
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Post by tony on Aug 30, 2018 23:21:17 GMT -5
Here's a serious question: does to Machine have a new official policy that they will not go to any away games unless they are allowed to perform a full halftime show? If that is a policy, then we can debate the merits of it but at least I know they have set the ground rules. However, if they are just making random decisions on a case-by-case basis, then that is where I have a problem with the band leadership. You keep ignoring the part about not being allowed to play in the stands. A lot of PWC conferences are strict about when bands are allowed to play - the MEAC is way more lenient than most. Last year, the CIAA tried to ban visiting bands from playing at halftime at all. If the band can't play in the stands, and they can't play on the field, what's the point of going? The football team and fans are just going to be mad because they'd be sitting there with their horns in their laps the whole time. And no, this isn't new, just only enforced in some games, and it sounds like this is one of them. I hated when the SCSU game was at the Panthers' stadium in Charlotte because it was the same setup - paid commercials played over the speakers between plays, and the band barely got to play in the stands.
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Post by aggie2039 on Aug 31, 2018 7:26:26 GMT -5
Blah blah the band cares about themselves, case closed.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 31, 2018 7:56:12 GMT -5
What this whole fiasco tells me is that the band needs more oversight.
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Post by KidHeartless on Aug 31, 2018 7:58:05 GMT -5
They're fine as is.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 31, 2018 8:00:05 GMT -5
Yep. Perfectly fine. No worries at all.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Aug 31, 2018 8:15:36 GMT -5
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Post by marchingband1969 on Aug 31, 2018 8:33:23 GMT -5
Let it go, let it go Can't hold it back anymore Let it go, let it go Turn away and slam the door
I don't care what they're going to say Let the storm rage on The cold never bothered me anyway
Let it go, let it go Can't hold it back anymore
Let it go, let it go Turn away and slam the door
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Post by marchingband1969 on Aug 31, 2018 9:11:15 GMT -5
This whole discussion sound familiar..."He's not from here...he was born in Kenya!" "He doesn't have a birth certificate so that proves that he's not from here!" "You say you have a birth certificate but I've never seen it!" "You're showing me a document but how do I know it's legitimate...it looks phoney to me!" "I heard on Fox News that they spoke to someone that knew someone that said that's not even a real birth certificate!" "See, I told you he's not from here...he was born in Kenya!"
If you've already got your mind made up (on both sides) no amount of explanation will satisfy either side. This is a classic case... in my efforts to keep some die-hard Aggies informed about the inner workings of the A&T Marching Band, this has ballooned into 19 pages of verbal fussing and fighting. From now on I'll share less.
I must confess...I'm more than just a bandhead...bandheads are into music, band formations, and all the pomp and pageantry of marching bands. I could care less about those things...all I care about are the band students and staff of "The A&T Band Program." I care about all the kids and staff that freely invest hours of their time and energy to entertain our community. And although I'm an old man with all the usual old man health issues, I'll invite you outside for an oldfassion asswhipping if you go too far criticizing those kids or staff. I realize that's not appropriate for a mature college graduate but that's how deep my loyalty runs for the A&T Band Program.
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Aug 31, 2018 9:22:04 GMT -5
I would say right now 2 and 3 are not true until someone can provide facts to prove otherwise. That just sounds like heresay. Let me see the actual correspondence sent by members of the ECU band. The first sentence of the 2nd paragraph of the letter addresses the 3rd point. And that exact thing happened to us the last time we were at Coastal Carolina. omg! i was at that coastal carolina game and quite honestly, compared to what we're used to seeing the bgmm do at games, it was a waste of funds unless ccu paid bgmm's costs. ccu literally put a "muzzle" on the bgmm's performance, they hardly even played anything in the stands and if my memory serves me correctly, they didn't perform at all on the field at halftime. from my very own observations at the coastal carolina game near myrtle beach a few years ago, if ecu imposes the same restrictions on the bgmm as ccu did, it really would be a waste of time and funds for the bgmm to go to ecu. i mean, at the ccu game, the bgmm had to sit in the stands under "sweltering" heat and humidity in those hot band uniforms and basically do nothing but basically become "spectators". at that game, the "highlight" of bgmm being there was when they first marched into the stadium and got seated. that's it!! hardly heard anything else out of the bgmm for the rest of the game. if that's how ecu will treat the bgmm, then i agree they should stay in greensboro...
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Post by KidHeartless on Aug 31, 2018 9:43:11 GMT -5
The first sentence of the 2nd paragraph of the letter addresses the 3rd point. And that exact thing happened to us the last time we were at Coastal Carolina. omg! i was at that coastal carolina game and quite honestly, compared to what we're used to seeing the bgmm do at games, it was a waste of funds unless ccu paid bgmm's costs. ccu literally put a "muzzle" on the bgmm's performance, they hardly even played anything in the stands and if my memory serves me correctly, they didn't perform at all on the field at halftime. from my very own observations at the coastal carolina game near myrtle beach a few years ago, if ecu imposes the same restrictions on the bgmm as ccu did, it really would be a waste of time and funds for the bgmm to go to ecu. i mean, at the ccu game, the bgmm had to sit in the stands under "sweltering" heat and humidity in those hot band uniforms and basically do nothing but basically become "spectators". at that game, the "highlight" of bgmm being there was when they first marched into the stadium and got seated. that's it!! hardly heard anything else out of the bgmm for the rest of the game. if that's how ecu will treat the bgmm, then i agree they should stay in greensboro... He gets it
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