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Post by DOOMS on Nov 26, 2021 12:36:39 GMT -5
Money is an excuse…. It boils down to coaching. We continuously lose to teams that invest less than we do. FAMU and Morgan State consistently beat us and we have a larger athletics budget. Heck GW beat us and our athletics budget is larger than theirs. SC state won the MEAC and they probably have the smallest budget in the entire conf… If we consistently outspent those programs we'd rarely lose to them. Everybody is going to lose to somebody at some point. That's a given. FAMU and Morgan beat us the last two times we played, but prior to that it had been a minute. Likewise, Steat may have the smallest budget in the MEAC (probably not) but most of their money is most likely going to exactly one sport. Money allows you to put the infrastructure in place such that losses to those teams that spend less are far more rare than they already are.
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 26, 2021 12:49:13 GMT -5
He shouldn't. He is about 32 years old with a far worse resume than Washington. Noted, however let’s be honest we are limiting ourselves to a certain pool of candidates. That hinders us from hiring the best candidate.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 26, 2021 12:59:30 GMT -5
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 26, 2021 13:01:03 GMT -5
Not in the revenue sports
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 26, 2021 13:14:57 GMT -5
Broadway (african american) was hired in 2011. He retired after two HBCU national titles and an undefeated season in 2017. His top assistant (african american) replaced him in 2018 and won back-to-back HBCU national titles.
What other pool of candidates should we have considered over the last 10 years?
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 26, 2021 13:27:55 GMT -5
Broadway (african american) was hired in 2011. He retired after two HBCU national titles and an undefeated season in 2017. His top assistant (african american) replaced him in 2018 and won back-to-back HBCU national titles. What other pool of candidates should we have considered over the last 10 years? What about after Hayes retired? What about men’s basketball since 1999? We’ve been through how many head coaches? Where there even any candidates that we interviewed?
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 26, 2021 13:35:02 GMT -5
And what about in 1942 during the second world war? Not sure how that relates to our current state of affairs.
You're making a serious indictment that we are purposely not considering candidates for our top revenue sports based on the color of their skin.
You should have some cold hard evidence on hand before making that accusation.
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 26, 2021 13:41:15 GMT -5
And what about in 1942 during the second world war? Not sure how that relates to our current state of affairs. You're making a serious indictment that we are purposely not considering candidates for our top revenue sports based on the color of their skin. You should have some cold hard evidence on hand before making that accusation. BT You are right and I stand by what I am saying.
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Post by aggie252 on Nov 26, 2021 13:44:43 GMT -5
Every school/AD has a certain criteria they are looking for, and they hire the best candidate that fits that criteria, not the best overall candidate. IF you want to be a head coach at a top SEC school, you're probably going to have some kind of SEC experience, obviously there are some outliers. Michigan usually look for Michigan a man first, then go from there if there are none available. Ohio St's HC is from Urban Meyers staff. Jimbo Fisher was named the coach in waiting while Bobby Bowden was still there.No one would have said Dabo was the best candidate out there when Clemson hired him. UNC basketball, to get that job you're going to have to be an alum. Duke didn't go get the best overall candidate to replace coach K.
We have a certain criteria when it comes to a HC, and we should go get the best available coach that meets that criteria. I agree that money is holding us back from truly doing that. A lot of them can make more being an assistant in the NFL or major college program.
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 26, 2021 13:46:27 GMT -5
Every school/AD has a certain criteria they are looking for, and they hire the best candidate that fits that criteria, not the best overall candidate. IF you want to be a head coach at a top SEC school, you're probably going to have some kind of SEC experience, obviously there are some outliers. Michigan usually look for Michigan a man first, then go from there if there are none available. Ohio St's HC is from Urban Meyers staff. Jimbo Fisher was named the coach in waiting while Bobby Bowden was still there.No one would have said Dabo was the best candidate out there when Clemson hired him. UNC basketball, to get that job you're going to have to be an alum. Duke didn't go get the best overall candidate to replace coach K. We have a certain criteria when it comes to a HC, and we should go get the best available coach that meets that criteria. I agree that money is holding us back from truly doing that. A lot of them can make more being an assistant in the NFL or major college program. Who is them? What is A&T criteria?
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Post by aggie252 on Nov 26, 2021 14:05:25 GMT -5
Every school/AD has a certain criteria they are looking for, and they hire the best candidate that fits that criteria, not the best overall candidate. IF you want to be a head coach at a top SEC school, you're probably going to have some kind of SEC experience, obviously there are some outliers. Michigan usually look for Michigan a man first, then go from there if there are none available. Ohio St's HC is from Urban Meyers staff. Jimbo Fisher was named the coach in waiting while Bobby Bowden was still there.No one would have said Dabo was the best candidate out there when Clemson hired him. UNC basketball, to get that job you're going to have to be an alum. Duke didn't go get the best overall candidate to replace coach K. We have a certain criteria when it comes to a HC, and we should go get the best available coach that meets that criteria. I agree that money is holding us back from truly doing that. A lot of them can make more being an assistant in the NFL or major college program. Who is them? What is A&T criteria? I don't know all the criteria, but obviously being black is one, as with most HBCUs. I don't really think there is any denying that. The school could never say that obviously for legal reasons. As for as who is them. Off the top of my head, Tee Martin would be one. Offensive coordinator at USC, position coach in the SEC and NFL. Another would be Robert Gillespie, current Alabama running back coach, spent some years as assistant HC at Tennessee. A lot of major college programs have black position coaches, and while we could potentially get them to take pay cuts for the chance at being a HC, I don't see the rest of the staff they would want to bring accepting what we pay coordinators and position coaches.
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 26, 2021 14:08:47 GMT -5
Who is them? What is A&T criteria? I don't know all the criteria, but obviously being black is one, as with most HBCUs. I don't really think there is any denying that. The school could never say that obviously for legal reasons. As for as who is them. Off the top of my head, Tee Martin would be one. Offensive coordinator at USC, position coach in the SEC and NFL. Another would be Robert Gillespie, current Alabama running back coach, spent some years as assistant HC at Tennessee. A lot of major college programs have black position coaches, and while we could potentially get them to take pay cuts for the chance at being a HC, I don't see the rest of the staff they would want to bring accepting what we pay coordinators and position coaches. Much respect
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Post by Bornthrilla on Nov 26, 2021 14:09:41 GMT -5
Once again, you guys are making a wild accusation about the leaders of our university that the evidence does not support.
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Post by aggie252 on Nov 26, 2021 14:18:43 GMT -5
Once again, you guys are making a wild accusation about the leaders of our university that the evidence does not support. You're right, I don't have any evidence, and there can never be any evidence, if there was that could potentially lead to lawsuits and bad press. So no one in the administration could ever say it, But I figured on here we could be honest about it lol. And now you add in the move to a non-HBCU conference, plus who our AD is, there's no way we're hiring someone who is not black. There's no way you could sell it to the fanbase.
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Post by aggie2039 on Nov 26, 2021 14:20:45 GMT -5
If everyone on a companies board of directors are Ivy League grads is it safe to say that they are targeting Ivy League grads for those positions?
Sure they have VPs from other colleges but that doesn’t mean they aren’t targeting Ivy Leaguers for the BOD positions.
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