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Post by Aggie Monster on Dec 15, 2011 13:25:12 GMT -5
We should not expect our opponent to help fill up our stadium. That's our job. I want to see Aggie Stadium filled with Aggies!! I totally agree, the entire stadium should be filled with blue and gold...and EVERY side should be the "Home" Side. that is the change in culture that we need and that's where it should begin. I mean if you look at some of the seating charts for some of the other schools (PWCs) like ODU, App State, etc... they might have one tiny section usually in a corner or in the endzone that is "visitor" seating. THAT my friends is what Aggie Stadium should be like... In fact, i'm gonna go as far as to no longer use the phrases "home" and "Visitor" side when referring to Aggie Stadium in 2012. That's gonna be my contribution in helping to change the culture of A&T Athletics. Thats part of the reason ALL seats aside from the student section should be assigned seating. I've always championed that idea. |
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 15, 2011 13:32:04 GMT -5
you guys actually have some great ideas and they could attract additional fans to our games. but if our football team doesn't maintain a winning record (as a minimum, preferably championship caliber), those great ideas will go to waste. that's why i prefer not to put the cart before the horse.
i think we should first put all of our energies into producing a consistently winning program and then worry about those creative ideas second. because if you bring in new fans and our team stinks, it'll be hard to get them to come back. i think its a good idea to bring in new fans "after" we have a product that'll keep them coming back. i don't think it works as well the other way around...
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Post by aggiebred09 on Dec 15, 2011 13:36:10 GMT -5
Oleschool I agree with you 96%. Its been stated that even during the winning eras of A&T football we still rarely sold out a game. I agree wins and marketing go hand in hand, but lets not think that a championship team will bring an automatic sell out crowd. In some cases it can keep people from coming.
Hayes had to do a cattle call mid-way through the season this year because the WSSU crowd wasnt showing up because they knew Winston would win. I can see our crowd doing that to.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Dec 15, 2011 13:56:22 GMT -5
I think the winning goes without saying. People keep pointing that out, but I think we all know that. We are giving ideas, but already know that none of it will work without a decent football team. So no need to post every 8th post that "We must win first though!". Sorry, just had to point that out.
WSSU is an example of changing the black culture. They went undefeated and didn't know what the hell to do, LOL. "Should I not go cause I know we are going to win? Shoud I go to support? They dont need support, they winning anyway?" Typical
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Post by marchingband1969 on Dec 15, 2011 14:59:22 GMT -5
Once again I agree with Aggie Monster. We do need to win. I think that a lot of Aggie fans think that Broadway will get us back on a winning track. Based on what he did this year with limited scholarships I believe he will and has turned A&T's football program in the right direction. But winning is only half of the formular for filling Aggie Stadium. You've got to market the heck out of your product. There are 3 groups of potential fans out there... 1/3 of them are "die-hards" and will come to the game no matter what our record is or the weather...1/3 of them will never set foot in our stadium no matter how well we play or how much we promote the games and the final 1/3 are "unaware." They just don't know enough about the A&T game experience to go to the game. If they had a "good reason" to visit Aggie Statium they would try it once. That's the group we need to market too. Those that are unaware of what a great experience they would have at an A&T game.
By the way, despite WSSU's historic football record this year, being undefeated, and playing at home in good weather the entire playoff, they didn't sell out their stadium. In fact, the crowds were light. WSSU like A&T and most HBCU's fail to hire a profesional marketing staff. So despite the teams record they don't get the "unaware" fans to show up for their games. For WSSU it was an opportunity lost. The good news for them is they will be good next year and may be able to build their fan base. We need to get a top-notch marketing team in place now so we can take advantage of Broadways wins!
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Post by The Professor on Dec 15, 2011 16:25:35 GMT -5
Thanks Decks...i was thinking the attendance was pretty good! as for preference of firing Phil before Eaves there is no question that a loosing coach should be canned before a ineffective marketing/sponsorship head. Eaves doesn't do anything magical in finding money games. A new face as HC would probably bring in just as much or if not more revenue for basketball. *Shakes my head* |
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Post by aggieblackie on Dec 15, 2011 19:21:45 GMT -5
Aggie Monster,
As I said before, I would not play Elon or Coastal Carolina again because they will not
help us fill our stadium. Their fans have a complex about attending games in our
stadium. Wonder why? Have you ever heard of racism? That is one reason whether
you like it or not.
Why should I continue to play a school that brings beans & weenies to our table. When we
bring something to their table it is lobster & steak. I want equal treatment at the table.
Elon & Coastal will never - ever bring a host of fans here so why play their a$$. Find another
opponent. Hell, App State will bring more fans than them combined if you just got to have
us play a white team.
I would put Winston back on the schedule and if I could not get them and it had to be a
school close by to save money it would either be Morehouse, Shaw or St. Augustine.
I would love to re-new the match with Grambling. But get it in your mind and quit hoping
and praying about Elon. They ain't gone bring no great amount of fans to Aggie Stadium.
Aggie Stadium will never - ever be filled up with this team no matter how much publicity
we put out.
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Post by saabman on Dec 15, 2011 20:27:57 GMT -5
What fan Base are we talking about here??? Look I would bet that over half of the student body do not attend Home games during foot ball season just look into it and see what you come up with because I would like to know. Have the Marketing Dept Take A Survey on campus first and then move it into the community to find out what it would take to get more fans to attend more A&T home games. It's not so much who you play. It's more about giving the fans what they want. I do not feel that racism is the reason for ELON & CCU fans not attending away games because both schools have a large # of black students attending their schools. Some schools fans just don't travel. We first have to look with in A&T'S make-up and find away to get the AGGIE fans/Greensboro area fans back. IF WE COULD JUST GET THE GREENSBORO AREA FANS ALONG WITH THE STUDENTS IT WOULD BE LIKE HOME-COMING EVERY WEEKEND .
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Post by Jesse Jackson's Side eye on Dec 15, 2011 21:48:28 GMT -5
to kind of piggyback off of what saabman stated:
one of the things that I feel A&T athletics, and football in particular, has not tapped into is selling Aggie Football as GREENSBORO's TEAM. I mean yes, there are a number of schools in the city, but A&T football is the biggest game in town. tracking back to the WNIT game against Charlotte, their theme from their billboards to the team introduction video was that they weren't just UNC Charlotte's Team, they were the City's Team... I feel like we really need to market Aggie Football as not just 200 Acres of land off East Market Street, but the Entire City.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Dec 15, 2011 22:16:25 GMT -5
Aggie Monster, As I said before, I would not play Elon or Coastal Carolina again because they will not help us fill our stadium. Their fans have a complex about attending games in our stadium. Wonder why? Have you ever heard of racism? That is one reason whether you like it or not. Why should I continue to play a school that brings beans & weenies to our table. When we bring something to their table it is lobster & steak. I want equal treatment at the table. Elon & Coastal will never - ever bring a host of fans here so why play their a$$. Find another opponent. Hell, App State will bring more fans than them combined if you just got to have us play a white team. I would put Winston back on the schedule and if I could not get them and it had to be a school close by to save money it would either be Morehouse, Shaw or St. Augustine. I would love to re-new the match with Grambling. But get it in your mind and quit hoping and praying about Elon. They ain't gone bring no great amount of fans to Aggie Stadium. Aggie Stadium will never - ever be filled up with this team no matter how much publicity we put out. Man, you just called the entire student body at 2 schools racist cause they dont travel to away games. Before you call someone racist how about you find out how much they travel to other white schools. You will probably find that they dont travel well to them either. Dayum, racist? Why did I even waste my time responding. Only App will bring the fans you speak of and they were on my list by the way. Shaw? St Aug? Seriously. They dont even have stadiums big enough to hold our fans nor band. I'm talking about someone to have a home and home with here. Have you ever thought of WHY they dont travel well? First off, it takes time to build a loyal following like A&T. Elon's football program is basically still a baby compared to A&T. Not because they are racist. Coastal is also recently building a football culture. Neither schools has people like Oleschool, AggieOne, etc that has followed the program since the 70s. Know some history first before calling someone racist. They barely got people that followed since the early 90s. What do you call JC Smith when they come to A&T and bring 500 fans? What do you call Hampton when they are undefeated in the MEAC and bring 1000 fans to Aggie Stadium. Whats your reason then? Are they racist against teams with dog mascots? I come with suggestions and you come with St Aug and Shaw, ROFL. |
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Post by aggieblackie on Dec 15, 2011 23:54:08 GMT -5
Monster, what other reason do you think Elon fans don't come to our stadium which is 15 min. away. I know Shaw does not have a stadium and I know St. Aug is building one. Doesn't
matter, they have half decent teams. I just mentioned them because people were saying play
teams close to home to save money. Of course I would rather play Grambling, Southern, Jackson State, Alabama State or A&M and Tennessee State on a regular basis. Doesn't matter which one.
My point is Elon, Coastal don't bring fans for one simple reason -- racism and I don't care if
you like what I say or not. Elon has been playing football longer than you think. I remember
back in the 70's when they had a coach by the name of Red Wilson. They won the majority
of their games each year under him. He was hired by Duke University in the ACC because of
his records at Elon. They are not as young as you may think.
Coastal Carolina is the team that is young compared to Elon.
Quite naturally Hampton and other HBCU teams that do not bring fans to our stadium are not
racist. Hampton does not even have a fan base at their home games. I have witnessed that
first hand. So, I know if they won't go to home games they won't come here.
J C Smith does not have a large enrollment so you know they ain't going to bring but so many
people.
Another thing, St. Aug & Shaw would give us a good battle no matter what field we play on.
They would have whooped us two years ago with ease.
Aggie Stadium will never ever be filled to the brim unless we are playing Central, Winston,
Homecoming or the Redskins. LOL -- Don't you forget that either Monster.
I just can't figure out your motive for playing somebody who is not playing with an equal deck.
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Post by aggie1 on Dec 16, 2011 0:02:49 GMT -5
The ultimate goal at home football games is to make money. If you don't fill the stadium up or come
close to filling it up you are not making money. I don't see any advantage in playing a school like
Elon who only brings about 400 - 500 fans to our games. I have observed them every time they
have come to our stadium and that figure is very close to their representation.
So why waste time in playing them. Get somebody on the schedule who will draw better than
them so that we can come close to making some money.
We do need to market our team better. That will help tremendously.
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Post by DECKS on Dec 16, 2011 0:20:07 GMT -5
The ultimate goal at home football games is to make money. If you don't fill the stadium up or come close to filling it up you are not making money. I don't see any advantage in playing a school like Elon who only brings about 400 - 500 fans to our games. I have observed them every time they have come to our stadium and that figure is very close to their representation. So why waste time in playing them. Get somebody on the schedule who will draw better than them so that we can come close to making some money. We do need to market our team better. That will help tremendously. We need to play them because our fans showed up in good numbers at Aggie Stadium. You guys need to quit being small minded in wanting opponents to fill up our stadium. And calling Elon racist because they don't have a large traveling fan base is one of the most asinine statements I've ever read on this message board.  |
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Post by The Professor on Dec 16, 2011 0:33:05 GMT -5
to kind of piggyback off of what saabman stated: one of the things that I feel A&T athletics, and football in particular, has not tapped into is selling Aggie Football as GREENSBORO's TEAM. I mean yes, there are a number of schools in the city, but A&T football is the biggest game in town. tracking back to the WNIT game against Charlotte, their theme from their billboards to the team introduction video was that they weren't just UNC Charlotte's Team, they were the City's Team... I feel like we really need to market Aggie Football as not just 200 Acres of land off East Market Street, but the Entire City. Did you say something about MARKETING. That would require having a competent staff to do so. Great point though and a great idea. I see App St Football billboards in Greensboro. Damn Shame |
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Post by sidewiner8 on Dec 16, 2011 0:36:30 GMT -5
Our fans show up in good numbers regardless of who we play. We show up
regardless of our record. You are contradicting yourself Decks and all of the
people who said they wanted a full stadium. How else are we going to fill up
the stadium if the other teams don't bring a great amount of people to our
games. Elon is a waste of time for making it a money game.
I have read a lot of asinine statements on this board and the one you just
made stating "You guys need to quit being small minded in wanting opponents
to fill up our stadium" is one. What in the hell is small minded about that. We are
trying to find opponents who will bring a larger fan base to help us make money.
That is big minded.
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