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Post by oleschoolaggie on Oct 17, 2011 11:12:52 GMT -5
that can easily be explained; in 2010, our record was 1-10. hence, less attendance. in 2009, our record was 4-6 (5-6 counting the forfeit), our best record since 2003. hence, higher attendance.
in 2008, our record was 3-8, the first year we'd won a game since 2005 and fobbs get fired midway thru the season. hence, poor attendance. i mean, its clear to me that our attendance is impacted more by the prospects of our team than anything else. if our team continues to play well this year, i'd expect our attendance to go up... Wrong, if you normalize 2009 for a normal DSU non-homecoming crowd it's also below this year's projected numbers. The bottomline is this year will probably be higher than the previous years and that's the goal. my understanding is that the concept intends to force tailgaters (who otherwise would not go into the stadium) to purchase a game ticket. so far, that hasn't happened and if anything, our attendance has decreased. if the fan zone was generating a significant amount of "additional" revenue, i'd be the first to admit i was wrong. but we've had 3 home games now and i don't see any increase in revenue resulting from the fan zone. the only thing the fan zone has accomplished, is a diminished tailgating environment. even if we sellout homecoming, it won't be because of the fan zone. we always sellout homecoming. so what's the benefit of having a fan zone unless attendance increases. and if it does increase, it won't be because of the fan zone. it'll be because of an improved football team that wins games... Your understanding isn't supported by the numbers. i've got one and only one question for you. please prove to me the fan zone has increased revenue and increased attendance? otherwise, the fan zone is an utter failure, point blank, end of discussion, period...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Oct 17, 2011 11:15:42 GMT -5
A majority of you guys keep saying you want to help the revenue for athletics AKA football then why not do like a majority of other schools and charge for parking. At my old college you did not have to pay for a game ticket to tailgate. Also if you are making tailgaters buy game tickets and the number of people decrease what have you accomplished? Let's go back to parking if you really want to make money charge for parking. This shouldn't be a problem for many of you from what I gather from your post. The majority of people keep saying raise more money that's a sure fire way to raise money. I have not been to an Aggie tailgate and I pay each week for a game ticket it has never bothered or crossed my mind to worry about a tailgaters price or what they paid or did not pay. I'm just saying maybe another route can be taken to bring in more money like a parking charge. i agree, aggieboy. i've been advocating that for years! other meac schools do it, why don't we?
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Post by Aggie Monster on Oct 17, 2011 12:09:27 GMT -5
Keep it up, you will be paying for parking and Game Zone, LOL
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Post by Bigboy on Oct 17, 2011 12:30:37 GMT -5
How can you say something is a failure when it has only been 6 weeks since it started. It is going to take longer than 6 weeks to judge it's success or failure.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Oct 17, 2011 12:34:32 GMT -5
Game's Zone "failure" is a matter of opinion. Me, I though it was great. Tailgate wasn't overflowing, but it was still a REALLY good crowd.
And you could still go and walk campus afterwards and bump shoulders with the freeloaders.
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Post by B&GMM 80 on Oct 17, 2011 13:54:33 GMT -5
HOMECOMING was GREAT! I like the Fan Zone, plenty of room to manuever around, it get's a thumbs up from me, I really enjoyed the Atmosphere, and I encourage them to continue to generate monies anyway possible
Three of my buddies had RV TAILGATES behind Bryan Center and we had an absolute GREAT TIME and everyone in Attendance enjoyed themselves and so many people were inquiring how do they obtain and reserve a space for next year, FAN ZONE WAS A SUCCESS and if you don't want to pay to attend Fan Zone, then marched on down Lindsay Street to Fan Fest, No Charge at all and Vendors out the ying yang! but Tailgating in the Fan Zone was Great, FOODS, DRINKS, AND AGGIE FAMILY SOCIALIZING TOGETHER
AGGIE PRIDE!
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Post by saabman on Oct 17, 2011 18:33:27 GMT -5
Gents some of you guys don't no how good you have it. You don't have to pay 15 to 45 $ to park and still have to buy a game ticket . You don't have to rent a space to tailgate 200-1000$. You don't have to walk one mile to get to the game are take the shuttle bus for 10$ for each adult and 5$ for each kid. Hail and your complaining about a Tailgate price. Come on man !!
The only problem I see is the price for Kids, high school students and other college students W/ID. They should not be charged the price of and adult . Work that out and you will see more SELL OUT CROWDS on game day.
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Post by aggierattler on Oct 19, 2011 9:50:29 GMT -5
Gents some of you guys don't no how good you have it. You don't have to pay 15 to 45 $ to park and still have to buy a game ticket . You don't have to rent a space to tailgate 200-1000$. You don't have to walk one mile to get to the game are take the shuttle bus for 10$ for each adult and 5$ for each kid. Hail and your complaining about a Tailgate price. Come on man !! The only problem I see is the price for Kids, high school students and other college students W/ID. They should not be charged the price of and adult . Work that out and you will see more SELL OUT CROWDS on game day. You are so right about all of that!! Oh yeah...it was shown on another thread here that kids and high school students with IDs did not pay anything close to full price for homecoming game tickets. And, as normal, Ayantee students with valid ID were admitted free (since they have already paid through their student fees).
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Post by aggiebred09 on Oct 19, 2011 11:04:40 GMT -5
I honestly think we have the wrong focus when it comes to fans. We are focused on generating revenue from the fan base instead of attendance figures. To me we should be focused more on selling out games first then from there we can set a price point. A game ticket and a t-shirt are two totally different products, but we are using the same approach to sell both.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Oct 19, 2011 23:37:52 GMT -5
I'm sick of this discuss so this is my last comment on it. For the past several weeks I've seen and heard nothing but complaints about the "Game Zone." Somehow A&T is now violating some tailgater's rights by charging people to come on campus on Saturday to cook their meals. Well here's the bottom line...A&T's athletic program needs more money to support its teams. They have raise student fees as much as they can and they need more money. And since most A&T Alumni don't give anything to the school, the University has been forced to charge people an additional fee. I would bet that most of the people complaining about the Game Zone give little or nothing to the University. So here's your choice, pay the Game Zone fee or take your grill and hotdogs to the Battle Ground Park on Saturdays. The rest of us will be in Aggie Stadium enjoying the game and the band. Enjoy the park. ;D
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 20, 2011 6:52:59 GMT -5
Does A&T need more money or does A&T need to properly utilize the money it already has?
Food for thought. And I'm not charging for it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2011 7:18:42 GMT -5
We need both!
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Post by Aggie77 on Oct 20, 2011 8:48:10 GMT -5
We need both. Until I see mismanagement by this Administration, I wouldn't be so quick to toss that label out. By all indications the Administration gets it in the area of collegiate athletics. They still need to work on their mass communication efforts, but this past weekend's events hosted by the Chancellor and the AAF gives me the feeling that at least they have a clue of the direction.
All indications are the GameZone is a success. Attendance is up and it's obvious that that people are willing to pay to enter the tailgate area. Nobody knew we had a winning team (so far) until after BCU, in fact most people picked us to lose the that game. The attendance for the Coastal game was up like 4 times over Coastal's last visit to Aggie stadium, we sure didn't have a winning team in either case. The attendance for the BCU game was up over the last non-homecoming BCU visit, we didn't have a winning team in either case. And now it comes to light that even Homecoming ticket sells were up over last year (though I don't completely under the counts sited), and that sell-out number is reduced.
The bottom-line is not everyone is turn-off by this policy, and that's what the Administration is counting on. The regulars will continue to be regulars and some of the "free loaders" will go away and some will pay $35, that's not that hard to understand. The net result is increased attendance and therefore increased revenue.
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Post by 4XLAGGIE on Oct 20, 2011 8:48:23 GMT -5
Does A&T need more money or does A&T need to properly utilize the money it already has? Food for thought. And I'm not charging for it. You basically have a 7.7 million dollar budget. 2.9 million goes to scholarships and 2.6 million goes to salaries. That leaves 2.2 million for everything from travel to phone bills to electric bills to gameday operations to equipment etc, etc...
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Post by oleschoolaggie on Oct 20, 2011 9:06:19 GMT -5
Keep it up, you will be paying for parking and Game Zone, LOL we "should" pay for parking. i've been advocating that since i first became a bdv member. i'm all in favor of opening up the classroom parking lot and charge folk $10 or $15 to park there. i'd be more than happy to pay that amount rather than walk nearly half a mile to a mile to get to the stadium. the classroom parking lot is right across the street from the stadium and is well worth a $10 or $15 parking fee. i don't know why we don't do it, other meac schools do and its a low cost "profitable" operation...
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