Post by oleschoolaggie on Dec 9, 2009 20:40:45 GMT -5
naw, it's quite the opposite. if you can successfully run your offense against your own players and your players are honestly trying to stop it, then you've got some "dumb" azz players! for crying out loud! they know "exactly" where the ball is going and where the screens will be set! nobody would be able to set one single screen if your own team that's playing defense wanted to circumvent the offense.
and gawd knows you can't possibly be talking about princeton offense perfectionist, pete carril! maybe you're talking about somebody else since you spelled his last name "carrill". but the pete carril that i'm talking about perfected the princeton offense (he didn't actually create it) which emphasizes "back door cuts". let me repeat "back door cuts"! i mean, what idiot that knows you're running the princeton offense is gonna overplay the passing lanes? geeesh! son, there would be no back door cuts!
do you even know what a dummy defense is? well that's what your team plays when you're practicing your offense against your own teammates. the coach tells his players to "pretend" they don't know the offense. and you think running your offense against players who "pretend" they don't know your offense is how you "fine tune" your offense? omg! ....somebody just picked me up off the floor, 'cause i fell the hail outta my chair laughing at that one! and i still can't stop laughing...
Keep showing your lack of knowledge oldeschool. Back door cuts is only a part of the offense. It's a 5 man motion offense. There were several opponents that tried a sagging man against princeton only to run into 3-point shooting and mid range jumpers. Why do think it's worked so long Genius. Why do you think Georgetown made it to the Final Four a few years back running this offense? It's about execution. It doesn't matter if they know what you're trying to do. When you stop laughing.......take time to read up on it genius. See below.
"Princeton offense
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The Princeton offense is an offensive basketball strategy which emphasizes constant motion, passing, back-door cuts, and disciplined teamwork. It was used and perfected at Princeton University by Pete Carril, though its roots may be traced back to Franklin “Cappy” Cappon, who coached at Princeton in the late 1930s.[citation needed]
The offense usually starts out with four players outside the three-point arc with one player at the top of the key. The ball is kept in constant motion through passing until either a mismatch allows a player to cut to the basket or a player without the ball cuts toward the unoccupied area under and around the basket, and is passed the ball for a layup. Having a strong post player is important because this player is critical to passing to backdoor cutters, and can draw help defense to open outside shots.
The hallmark of the offense is the backdoor pass, where a player on the wing suddenly moves in towards the basket, receives a bounce pass from a guard on the perimeter, and (if done correctly) finds himself with no defenders between him and a layup. Alternatively, when the defensive team attempts to pack the paint to prevent backdoor cuts, the offense utilizes three point shots from the perimeter. All five players in the offense-- including the center-- should be competent at making a three point attempt, further spreading the floor.
The offense is a very slow developing one, relying on a high number of passes, and is often used by teams facing opponents with superior athletic talent, to maintain a low-scoring game (believing that a high-scoring game would favor the athletically superior opponent)."
Dummy defenses don't work........Genius.
excuse me mr. expert, but did i not state that the princeton offense "emphasizes" backdoor cuts? where did i state that it doesn't emphasize anything else? by not overplaying the passing lanes, you don't give up uncontested layups. you're always willing to give up a 3 point shot as opposed to an uncontested layup. that's just common sense!
besides, that's not even the point! the point is that running your offense against players who "pretend" they don't know your offense is not how you "fine tune" your offense. that's what the point is. not whether there are other options available in the princeton offense when the defense doesn't overplay the passing lanes...