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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 26, 2024 20:58:35 GMT -5
I know money talks ... but that just seems like a jive turkey move by this OC.
Personally, I would just have to suck it up for one season at TSU and see if I can hit the job market again the following year.
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Post by planoaggie on Feb 26, 2024 21:35:04 GMT -5
I know money talks ... but that just seems like a jive turkey move by this OC. Personally, I would just have the suck it up for one season at TSU and see if I can hit the job market again the following year. This does look bad for coaches to change their mind like that, but I wonder if the other school has to pay a buyout clause which TSU can used to target an equal or better OC.
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Post by Aggie One on Feb 26, 2024 21:47:33 GMT -5
Very few college coordinators have buyout clauses in their contracts. It's an anomaly outside the Power 5. Those that do are a very rare breed indeed.
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Post by aggie94 on Feb 27, 2024 8:14:14 GMT -5
Can't blame Eddie George for shooting his shot. That said, this had to be expected as nothing more than a short stint at best.
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Post by saabman on Feb 27, 2024 9:25:15 GMT -5
OC's are expendable commodities ,regardless of level P5, G5,D-1FCS , D2,3 and NAIA. It is extremely rare for an OC to receive a long-term contract that would require a buy out clause. Offensive coordinators are like any other assistant coaches their employment is at the discretion of the head coach.
Also I can see the logic in this OC's move. He can always return to FCS if things don't work out but if things don't work out at the FCS level, his chances of moving up to the top premier division of college football as an OC , that door is basically closed.
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Post by planoaggie on Feb 28, 2024 9:33:21 GMT -5
Very few college coordinators have buyout clauses in their contracts. It's an anomaly outside the Power 5. Those that do are a very rare breed indeed. Thanks. I wasn't sure.
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Post by planoaggie on Feb 28, 2024 9:39:47 GMT -5
OC's are expendable commodities ,regardless of level P5, G5,D-1FCS , D2,3 and NAIA. It is extremely rare for an OC to receive a long-term contract that would require a buy out clause. Offensive coordinators are like any other assistant coaches their employment is at the discretion of the head coach. Also I can see the logic in this OC's move. He can always return to FCS if things don't work out but if things don't work out at the FCS level, his chances of moving up to the top premier division of college football as an OC , that door is basically closed. I understand the logic from his perspective, but it just does not look good when you signed a contract and within a few weeks or months you leave not as a result of your employer doing anything wrong.
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Post by saabman on Feb 28, 2024 10:21:08 GMT -5
OC's are expendable commodities ,regardless of level P5, G5,D-1FCS , D2,3 and NAIA. It is extremely rare for an OC to receive a long-term contract that would require a buy out clause. Offensive coordinators are like any other assistant coaches their employment is at the discretion of the head coach. Also I can see the logic in this OC's move. He can always return to FCS if things don't work out but if things don't work out at the FCS level, his chances of moving up to the top premier division of college football as an OC , that door is basically closed. I understand the logic from his perspective, but it just does not look good when you signed a contract and within a few weeks or months you leave not as a result of your employer doing anything wrong. Do we really know what really happened between TSU and this OC . For all we know that could have been conditioned within his contract that were supposed to be met by certain date and time or it was an institutional decision. If those conditions were not met in a timely manner then his contract would be void ( hypothetically speaking) . There could be numerous reasons why he decided to to jet or TSU decided to part ways with him . The friends that I know that are active in Tennessee State Sports will only say " It just didn't work out and TSU is moving on" It's evident that TSU has moved on from the issue and chooses not to talk about it. Somewhere down the line to story will come out.
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Post by Aggie One on Feb 28, 2024 10:43:23 GMT -5
Enough of the cloak and dagger stuff already. Guys, let's get real here. My career choices of the day: stay on as the new OC at Tennessee State or turn down the Assistant Head Coach and Running Backs Coach job at Iowa State. Ummmm.....let me ponder over this most difficult decision.
Screw that. I'm goggling the Homefinder for housing locations in Ames, Iowa. Case closed.
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Post by Bornthrilla on Feb 28, 2024 10:51:38 GMT -5
No, I think it is more to it than just taking the better offer.
At some point timing and integrity have to mean something. Especially in the world of college football where relationships are so important.
We have seen examples of where people comprised their values for a short term payout and eventually regretted it.
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Post by westcoastaggie on Feb 28, 2024 11:20:57 GMT -5
No, I think it is more to it than just taking the better offer. At some point timing and integrity have to mean something. Especially in the world of college football where relationships are so important. We have seen examples of where people comprised their values for a short term payout and eventually regretted it. This seems to be par for the course when it comes to coaching. I've seen multiple examples this year alone of coaches agreeing in principal for one job just to jump for the one they really want. Boston College had this happen with Bill O'Brien. He jumped to that job after accepting the OC role at Ohio State.
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Post by A&T-roy on Feb 28, 2024 11:32:51 GMT -5
No, I think it is more to it than just taking the better offer. At some point timing and integrity have to mean something. Especially in the world of college football where relationships are so important. We have seen examples of where people comprised their values for a short term payout and eventually regretted it. There are also examples of things working out and working out well. Don't know any particular numbers.
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Post by DOOMS on Feb 28, 2024 11:42:46 GMT -5
Huge step up in positioning himself for a Power 5 job coordinator and head coach job down the road. 700 miles closer to home (he hadn't even moved his family to Nashville yet). Has to pay more. It's a no-brainer to me, integrity be damned.
Despite the bromance story they posted on Footballscoop, the risk of something like this happening was always there with Roehl having zero ties to the area and having a pretty good resume. The risk of Roehl staying and the offense sucking (thereby ruining any chance he had to move upward or onward) was too great to pass up the opportunity imo.
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Post by aggie2039 on Feb 28, 2024 12:12:07 GMT -5
No one in this group would turn down a $300K raise...
Your spouses would divorce you for turning down $300K raise. That kind of money can have impacts for multiple generations.
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Post by marchingband1969 on Feb 28, 2024 18:55:59 GMT -5
No one in this group would turn down a $300K raise... Your spouses would divorce you for turning down $300K raise. That kind of money can have impacts for multiple generations. Money talks and bull sh*t walks. Folks that old job loyalty stuff died with rotary dial phones and Blackberrys.
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