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Post by saabman on Oct 22, 2023 15:27:07 GMT -5
Yall still trying to blame players, SMH. But I bet if coach said that yall would jump down his throat. "You can't blame the players, take some accountability". Yall funny. You can't be last on offense in the NATION and not blame coaching. That's virtually impossible. In the Coaching field coaches have to options. He either get the credit for excellent play and gets the blame for subpar play . That's a no-brainer 😆 . It's always either or 😆 about are a bout the talent.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Oct 22, 2023 18:40:43 GMT -5
Yall still trying to blame players, SMH. But I bet if coach said that yall would jump down his throat. "You can't blame the players, take some accountability". Yall funny. You can't be last on offense in the NATION and not blame coaching. That's virtually impossible. In the Coaching field coaches have to options. He either get the credit for excellent play and gets the blame for subpar play . That's a no-brainer 😆 . It's always either or 😆 about are a bout the talent. Are you on the staff payroll? Cause you been defending this staff all season. Any coaches job is to COACH his players up. Make them better every week. Teach them something every week. I see no improvement offensively on this team. That's coaching 100%. No one has gotten better.
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Post by aggie2039 on Oct 22, 2023 19:38:10 GMT -5
We held Richmond to 257 yards of total offense.
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Post by saabman on Oct 22, 2023 22:38:26 GMT -5
In the Coaching field coaches have to options. He either get the credit for excellent play and gets the blame for subpar play . That's a no-brainer 😆 . It's always either or 😆 about are a bout the talent. Are you on the staff payroll? Cause you been defending this staff all season. Any coaches job is to COACH his players up. Make them better every week. Teach them something every week. I see no improvement offensively on this team. That's coaching 100%. No one has gotten better. You say coaching. I say talent . They both need each other . That's how the game works .
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 23, 2023 6:53:14 GMT -5
I say good coaching makes talent. Likewise, poor coaching can make talent look talentless.
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Post by Aggie Monster on Oct 23, 2023 7:13:48 GMT -5
Are you on the staff payroll? Cause you been defending this staff all season. Any coaches job is to COACH his players up. Make them better every week. Teach them something every week. I see no improvement offensively on this team. That's coaching 100%. No one has gotten better. You say coaching. I say talent . They both need each other . That's how the game works . So are you saying this offensive staff is doing a good job? I'm just trying to be clear. Thats a simple yes/no answer. Its been 7 games. Even bad players get coached up to look better from week to week....IF THEY HAVE GOOD COACHES.
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Post by saabman on Oct 23, 2023 12:21:02 GMT -5
You say coaching. I say talent . They both need each other . That's how the game works . So are you saying this offensive staff is doing a good job? I'm just trying to be clear. Thats a simple yes/no answer. Its been 7 games. Even bad players get coached up to look better from week to week....IF THEY HAVE GOOD COACHES. The entire offensive staff ( RB's coach being the exception) needs to go . O-Line ,Receivers, QB/OC based on their performance so far. Even if they did show progress those positions coaches named above need to GO a long with a number of scholarship athletes left-over/inherited from the Washington . Is that clear enough for you . And don't come back at me with " the O line coach has produced NFL talent BS again . Because right now as a O line unit they are playing like Crap . So which is it the coaching or the talent because he has produced NFL talent .
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Post by Aggie Monster on Oct 23, 2023 12:45:50 GMT -5
So are you saying this offensive staff is doing a good job? I'm just trying to be clear. Thats a simple yes/no answer. Its been 7 games. Even bad players get coached up to look better from week to week....IF THEY HAVE GOOD COACHES. The entire offensive staff ( RB's coach being the exception) needs to go . O-Line ,Receivers, QB/OC based on their performance so far. Even if they did show progress those positions coaches named above need to GO a long with a number of scholarship athletes left-over/inherited from the Washington . Is that clear enough for you . And don't come back at me with " the O line coach has produced NFL talent BS again . Because right now as a O line unit they are playing like Crap . So which is it the coaching or the talent because he has produced NFL talent . I never said anything about the O-line coach. Thats the other guy. But OK, you seemed to be defending the OC. Glad you cleared that up..
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Post by saabman on Oct 23, 2023 18:47:19 GMT -5
The entire offensive staff ( RB's coach being the exception) needs to go . O-Line ,Receivers, QB/OC based on their performance so far. Even if they did show progress those positions coaches named above need to GO a long with a number of scholarship athletes left-over/inherited from the Washington . Is that clear enough for you . And don't come back at me with " the O line coach has produced NFL talent BS again . Because right now as a O line unit they are playing like Crap . So which is it the coaching or the talent because he has produced NFL talent . I never said anything about the O-line coach. Thats the other guy. But OK, you seemed to be defending the OC. Glad you cleared that up.. " So are you saying this offensive staff is doing a good job? I'm just trying to be clear. Thats a simple yes/no answer. Its been 7 games. Even bad players get coached up to look better from week to week....IF THEY HAVE GOOD COACHES" You said offensive staff . The O-line coach is apart of the Offensive Staff .
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 23, 2023 18:59:11 GMT -5
I’m the one who said he produced NFL talent and dominating offensive lines, because HE HAS. Did he forget how to coach in the span of one year or has he been paired with an OC/QB coach who has no business being anything beyond a WR coach?
Imo with a different OC and QB coach (or dare I say an actual OC and QB coach) all the other pieces on offense would look 100% better.
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Post by saabman on Oct 23, 2023 21:12:50 GMT -5
I’m the one who said he produced NFL talent and dominating offensive lines, because HE HAS. Did he forget how to coach in the span of one year or has he been paired with an OC/QB coach who has no business being anything beyond a WR coach? Imo with a different OC and QB coach (or dare I say an actual OC and QB coach) all the other pieces on offense would look 100% better. Blocking is blocking pass or run that does not change with the line and has nothing to do with what happened behind them unless the QB is moving to extend a play or a screen, trap or moving pocket . Other then that the basics are the same. Also he said offensive staff not OC are receivers coach . The O line coach is apart of the offensive staff . And yes he has produced high level offensive lineman . But football and the O line is not an individual sport/ position, the O line as to function as a unit to be effective. So it is either the unit talent or the O line coach is not coaching them up . Based on his record with offensive lineman. I don't think it's the coaching but I do think it's the talent as a unit, don't confuse individual talent & unit talent are to different things all the together. Defenders will find you weaknesses on the line and on this team it's the right side .
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 23, 2023 22:32:05 GMT -5
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Post by Bornthrilla on Oct 23, 2023 23:03:02 GMT -5
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Post by saabman on Oct 23, 2023 23:22:25 GMT -5
This is where you use the TE and RB , chip block float out . The to fly routes are to pull the DB's and isolate the LB if they float out , but if they stay in the box or blize which they did ìt's a one or two step pass to the RB ot TE . Also as Thilla pointed out the RB and TE have to get there heads around and look for the ball , not show the QB the backs of there heads . I doubt that this play was drawn-up that way . It just wasn't executed properly.
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Post by DOOMS on Oct 24, 2023 5:09:35 GMT -5
Or maybe roll the dice and run a sprint draw.
In the words of Steve Spurrier, hindsight is 50-50. But in my memory and common sense, I’ve seen us run that sprint draw in past years in similar situations with massive success. I’m betting the players went out there with no expectation the called play would work. I wouldn’t expect us to magically make a pass play work in that situation when we’ve barely passed successfully all year.
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