A&T-roy
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Post by A&T-roy on Feb 11, 2023 15:01:01 GMT -5
Looks like you've changed your position from "thinking" the GPA is only there to discourage a large number of walking tryouts, to "knowing". If so, how do you "know"? No, I did not change my position. Below is the first sentence in my first post in this thread. "My opinion is that the 3.4 GPA requirement is to discourage lots of walkons." Everything I post is my opinion, speculation, etc., unless I list a source with a link or mention that someone else stated something. I quoted you in one of my basketball post yesterday. On this GPA requirement, can you give me a good reason for the 3.4 GPA for "new" walkons? The first 2 bullets on the ad would not apply to last year walkons. They are already A&T players and should be enrolled in their classes. Nah. You went from "think" to as if you know. And I pointed that out. Any competent reader of your second comment would take it as if you know and wouldn't need you to cite anything. You could have found out something else in between time. As a reader of both, with no cite, one would be well within rights to ask what I asked. So you don't know anything for fact. There can be many what some/many might consider to be good reasons for the 3.4 GPA requirement, with your "guess" being one of them. Another could be to try to raise the overall team GPA. Another could be that if you're gonna walk onto this team, your ducks better be in a row because it looks like your ability ain't what it needs to be so your academics are more important. Another could be that your participation in Athletics will probably have an effect on your grades, so we're building that in. Etc. All I know is that I don't "know".
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Post by planoaggie on Feb 11, 2023 16:56:02 GMT -5
No, I did not change my position. Below is the first sentence in my first post in this thread. "My opinion is that the 3.4 GPA requirement is to discourage lots of walkons." Everything I post is my opinion, speculation, etc., unless I list a source with a link or mention that someone else stated something. I quoted you in one of my basketball post yesterday. On this GPA requirement, can you give me a good reason for the 3.4 GPA for "new" walkons? The first 2 bullets on the ad would not apply to last year walkons. They are already A&T players and should be enrolled in their classes. Nah. You went from "think" to as if you know. And I pointed that out. Any competent reader of your second comment would take it as if you know and wouldn't need you to cite anything. You could have found out something else in between time. As a reader of both, with no cite, one would be well within rights to ask what I asked. So you don't know anything for fact. There can be many what some/many might consider to be good reasons for the 3.4 GPA requirement, with your "guess" being one of them. Another could be to try to raise the overall team GPA. Another could be that if you're gonna walk onto this team, your ducks better be in a row because it looks like your ability ain't what it needs to be so your academics are more important. Another could be that your participation in Athletics will probably have an effect on your grades, so we're building that in. Etc. All I know is that I don't "know". A&T-roy, did you see what you just did with your last post. Without saying it was your opinion, you stated that I changed my position as a fact. I on the other hand accept it as a strong opinion. I have mentioned that all my posts on this topic are my opinion, but you don't have to agree "it is your opinion". All the reasons you suggested for the 3.4 GPA requirement are legit in my opinion, but I can still strongly state they are weak reasons in my opinion. In conclusion, you are absolutely correct that I do not know anything for fact about Coach Brown's reason for the 3.4 GPA requirement. I just put up a strong opinion just like you just did about me and my post.
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Post by planoaggie on Feb 11, 2023 19:19:12 GMT -5
Hold-up A&T-roy. I just reread your last post. Your last 2 reasons for the 3.4 GPA requirement are prime examples of discourage or deterrent methods which is my main argument. The coach forces the kids to consider the 3.4 GPA in their decision in wasting Coach Brown's time on whether they should tryout for the team based on their athletic abilities or academic strengths. Raising the team GPA was your only other reason which I argued in my opinion was probably not the reason. There are not many reasons left.
By the way, most whom read the 1st sentence of my first 2 posts in this thread would know that those were my opinions. The key word was "Again" in my 2nd post.
Post 1: My opinion is that the 3.4 GPA requirement is to discourage lots of walkons.
Post 2: Again, the 3.4 GPA requirement is only there to discourage a large number of walkons from trying out for the team (walkon tryout management).
The word "Again" points back to the 1st post which clearly says,"my opinion ". You can't just separate the 2 posts read by the same audience. The reader must consider what was said in both posts.
Simple example: Post 1: In my opinion, A&T-roy is an expert on A&T sports. ** 2 hours later** Post 2: Again, A&T-roy is an expert on A&T sports.
An individual reader reading both posts would know that the 2nd post was also an opinion and not a change of position.
I hope this convinces you that I did not change my position that these posts are my opinion about the 3.4 GPA requirement. I just like to provide evidence if available to support my opinion at times.
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saabman
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Post by saabman on Feb 11, 2023 20:28:06 GMT -5
Why are we making this more then it is ๐๐คฃ Opinions Speculations and Assumptions that's it. Hell why not just ask Coach Brown , and end this BS before it hits the 100 mark like the Grass ๐๐๐คฃ . Personally I like the idea.
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Post by aggie2039 on Feb 11, 2023 20:46:29 GMT -5
Why are we making this more then it is ๐๐คฃ Opinions Speculations and Assumptions that's it. Hell why not just ask Coach Brown , and end this BS before it hits the 100 mark like the Grass ๐๐๐คฃ . Personally I like the idea. The new goal is to hit 100 pages ๐๐
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Post by saabman on Feb 11, 2023 21:06:23 GMT -5
Why are we making this more then it is ๐๐คฃ Opinions Speculations and Assumptions that's it. Hell why not just ask Coach Brown , and end this BS before it hits the 100 mark like the Grass ๐๐๐คฃ . Personally I like the idea. The new goal is to hit 100 pages ๐๐ Looks like it ๐
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Post by planoaggie on Feb 11, 2023 22:19:45 GMT -5
You all are correct. We were drifting off topic with the opinion vs know. No more post about that from me. The grass field thread is safe. ๐
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A&T-roy
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Post by A&T-roy on Feb 11, 2023 23:37:10 GMT -5
Hold-up A&T-roy. I just reread your last post. Your last 2 reasons for the 3.4 GPA requirement are prime examples of discourage or deterrent methods which is my main argument. The coach forces the kids to consider the 3.4 GPA in their decision in wasting Coach Brown's time on whether they should tryout for the team based on their athletic abilities or academic strengths. Raising the team GPA was your only other reason which I argued in my opinion was probably not the reason. There are not many reasons left. By the way, most whom read the 1st sentence of my first 2 posts in this thread would know that those were my opinions. The key word was "Again" in my 2nd post. Post 1: My opinion is that the 3.4 GPA requirement is to discourage lots of walkons. Post 2: Again, the 3.4 GPA requirement is only there to discourage a large number of walkons from trying out for the team (walkon tryout management). The word "Again" points back to the 1st post which clearly says,"my opinion ". You can't just separate the 2 posts read by the same audience. The reader must consider what was said in both posts. Simple example: Post 1: In my opinion, A&T-roy is an expert on A&T sports. ** 2 hours later** Post 2: Again, A&T-roy is an expert on A&T sports. An individual reader reading both posts would know that the 2nd post was also an opinion and not a change of position. I hope this convinces you that I did not change my position that these posts are my opinion about the 3.4 GPA requirement. I just like to provide evidence if available to support my opinion at times. It didn't. My point remains.
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A&T-roy
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Post by A&T-roy on Feb 11, 2023 23:39:17 GMT -5
Nah. You went from "think" to as if you know. And I pointed that out. Any competent reader of your second comment would take it as if you know and wouldn't need you to cite anything. You could have found out something else in between time. As a reader of both, with no cite, one would be well within rights to ask what I asked. So you don't know anything for fact. There can be many what some/many might consider to be good reasons for the 3.4 GPA requirement, with your "guess" being one of them. Another could be to try to raise the overall team GPA. Another could be that if you're gonna walk onto this team, your ducks better be in a row because it looks like your ability ain't what it needs to be so your academics are more important. Another could be that your participation in Athletics will probably have an effect on your grades, so we're building that in. Etc. All I know is that I don't "know". A&T-roy, did you see what you just did with your last post. Without saying it was your opinion, you stated that I changed my position as a fact. I on the other hand accept it as a strong opinion. I have mentioned that all my posts on this topic are my opinion, but you don't have to agree "it is your opinion". All the reasons you suggested for the 3.4 GPA requirement are legit in my opinion, but I can still strongly state they are weak reasons in my opinion. In conclusion, you are absolutely correct that I do not know anything for fact about Coach Brown's reason for the 3.4 GPA requirement. I just put up a strong opinion just like you just did about me and my post. No I didn't. I said "as if you know". And yours wasn't a "strong opinion". It was stated as a fact. And the "Again" would confuse your readers and cause them to think there was really another comment beyond your 1st one. The way to be consistent and not create confusion is to say "Again, I think...". Imma jump out of this conversation. #WordPoliceOut
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Post by planoaggie on Feb 12, 2023 4:23:51 GMT -5
Learning that we have nearly 40 football walk-ons each season giving their all for A&T at practices and games is great and surprising news. I was unaware that we carried that many. Do we have a walk-on Hall of Fame club for those that excelled at A&T or walk-on and made a NFL team? If not, it may be a good idea for someone to establish one after I read some good articles about a few of them.
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Post by AggieGroove on Feb 12, 2023 6:34:18 GMT -5
Learning that we have nearly 40 football walk-ons each season giving their all for A&T at practices and games is great and surprising news. I was unaware that we carried that many. Do we have a walk-on Hall of Fame club for those that excelled at A&T or walk-on and made a NFL team? If not, it may be a good idea for someone to establish one after I read some good articles about a few of them. I think Curtis Deloach was a walk onโฆ.
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Post by thewinner on Feb 12, 2023 7:19:13 GMT -5
Curtis was a walk on and Wallace Miles was too
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Post by aggiefool on Feb 12, 2023 8:05:02 GMT -5
I wonder did Curtis or Miles have a 3.4 GPA like the thread GPA and Brown Grass make 100 pages easy ..
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Post by Trueaggie on Feb 12, 2023 13:34:34 GMT -5
I wonder did Curtis or Miles have a 3.4 GPA like the thread GPA and Brown Grass make 100 pages easy .. This is why I believe the 3.4 GPA requirement will not be good for the university; I seriously doubt Curtis or Miles had a 3.4 GPA. Two very talented players that would have been missed. Keep in mind the thing is we wouldnโt realize that we missed them. On another note looks like we wonโt get Hicks; disappointing.
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Post by aggie2039 on Feb 12, 2023 13:42:41 GMT -5
Good thing it is Browns team and not anyone elseโs on this board๐คท๐พโโ๏ธ
You guys talking about 2 walkons over the span of 24 yearsโฆ
Itโs a new sheriff in town and he is demanding excellence in the classroom and on the field. His definition of excellence is all that matters.
Washington consistently brought in academically borderline students that couldnโt stay eligible or never showed up.
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